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Re: Around the NBA - the sharp end of the playoffs - Randle snubbed for All NBA 

Post#821 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu May 26, 2022 6:06 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:The fascination with Wiggins here does not suprise
me much. this board loves role players. especially ones that aren’t the top 4 players of their team (Wiggins, Frank, Obi, etc)


Fam you to hard on Wiggins. Who cares if he is a role player...He cant be liked because of that? Wiggins is a HIGH END Role player. The type you NEED on a team. He is no where near frank and obi etc. Come on now my G :lol:

I twll you this a million times. I would rather have Wiggins on this team over RJ any day of the week. If Wiggins is not a star to you fine I get all that, but dude is still a hell of a player to have for a team contending. IF the Warriors are saying they are here because of Wiggins then guess what, they know it to be true. They not saying it to just say it.

Hes aight as a role player. But the love fest for him is crazy here. His motor is still inconsistent. He has mad games where he is a no show (like the last one). And there's no reliable stats that back up his "great defense". I just find the obssession with role players here so weird.

To me this is like Frank all over again, even if Wiggins is better. The concept is still the same. Overrate role players who aint even the top 4 best players of they squad. Same schit with Ayton. It never ends. :lol:


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Post#822 » by HEZI » Thu May 26, 2022 6:19 pm

Warriors play a beautiful brand of basketball and nobody gets caught up in who is a star who is a role player they just play as a team. Really the only entertaining team left in the playoffs at the moment. No ego and self entitlement issues, no players getting benched because they were butt hurt about their shot attempts. I think some folks like drama queens more than good basketball. It’s how we still cling to guys like Julius Randle

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Post#823 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu May 26, 2022 6:56 pm

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Fam you to hard on Wiggins. Who cares if he is a role player...He cant be liked because of that? Wiggins is a HIGH END Role player. The type you NEED on a team. He is no where near frank and obi etc. Come on now my G :lol:

I twll you this a million times. I would rather have Wiggins on this team over RJ any day of the week. If Wiggins is not a star to you fine I get all that, but dude is still a hell of a player to have for a team contending. IF the Warriors are saying they are here because of Wiggins then guess what, they know it to be true. They not saying it to just say it.

Hes aight as a role player. But the love fest for him is crazy here. His motor is still inconsistent. He has mad games where he is a no show (like the last one). And there's no reliable stats that back up his "great defense". I just find the obssession with role players here so weird.

To me this is like Frank all over again, even if Wiggins is better. The concept is still the same. Overrate role players who aint even the top 4 best players of they squad. Same schit with Mikal. It never ends. :lol:


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Re: Around the NBA - the sharp end of the playoffs - Randle snubbed for All NBA 

Post#824 » by Guano » Thu May 26, 2022 7:01 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Of course his coach is going to say positive things about him to the media :lol:



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Post#825 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu May 26, 2022 7:01 pm

Wiggins is just riding the coatails of Steph, Klay, Green and Poole and people are jealous Wiggins is not getting credit they think he deserves. Same people who tried to give D'angelo Bustell credit for Minnesota getting back in the playoffs who also was trash :lol:
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Post#826 » by TerrenceClarke » Thu May 26, 2022 7:04 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Wiggins is just riding the coatails of Steph, Klay, Green and Poole and people are jealous Wiggins is not getting credit they think he deserves. Same people who tried to give D'angelo Bustell credit for Minnesota getting back in the playoffs who also was trash :lol:



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Re: Around the NBA - the sharp end of the playoffs - Randle snubbed for All NBA 

Post#827 » by Fat » Thu May 26, 2022 7:08 pm

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Post#828 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu May 26, 2022 7:12 pm

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Not everyone can be as good as Wiggins though and give that type of production. No way Waiters could do what Wiggins is doing especially from a size perspective. He wasnt on that level and couldn’t play the way the warriors play. Imo, RJ could become something like that pretty easily. Not saying it’s rare or unique, but simply something that’s valuable and very helpful.

We'll see.

I don't think Wiggins upside is out of the realm of possibility. He doesn't have the same tools though, especially as a defender and as a finisher.

My point about rare and unique was not about the Wiggins 3&D+ archetype but about the fact that every NBA player would likely be more efficient playing alongside Steph. It's not specific to Wiggins or hypothetically RJ.


In one paragraph you say RJ doesn’t have the tools to be a finisher like Wigging and in the next you call Wiggins a 3&D player. You are actually contradicting yourself because you know Wiggins brings a lot more versatility to his game than just 3&D

I said 3&D "+" as a an acknowledgment that Wiggins brings a little bit more to the table than 3s and defense (or 3s and drives).

But he's a role player for Golden State, who mostly eats off of Curry and Draymond's elite playmaking, and who benefits from elite, unprecedented, historical floor spacing across the line-up.

And with all that said, he does have better natural tools to fill that role than RJ does. He has quicker feet and better athleticism on defense, and even though he doesn't have good touch (like RJ), he is more athletic as a finisher.
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Post#829 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu May 26, 2022 7:22 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:The fascination with Wiggins here does not suprise
me much. this board loves role players. especially ones that aren’t the top 4 players of their team (Wiggins, Frank, Obi, etc)


Fam you to hard on Wiggins. Who cares if he is a role player...He cant be liked because of that? Wiggins is a HIGH END Role player. The type you NEED on a team. He is no where near frank and obi etc. Come on now my G :lol:

I twll you this a million times. I would rather have Wiggins on this team over RJ any day of the week. If Wiggins is not a star to you fine I get all that, but dude is still a hell of a player to have for a team contending. IF the Warriors are saying they are here because of Wiggins then guess what, they know it to be true. They not saying it to just say it.

Hes aight as a role player. But the love fest for him is crazy here. His motor is still inconsistent. He has mad games where he is a no show (like the last one). And there's no reliable stats that back up his "great defense". I just find the obssession with role players here so weird.

To me this is like Frank all over again, even if Wiggins is better. The concept is still the same. Overrate role players who aint even the top 4 best players of they squad. Same schit with Obi. It never ends. :lol:

Knicks fans only want to win a championship with a team where no player averages double digit points, and nobody reaches league-average TS. I hate this fanbase :lol:
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Post#830 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu May 26, 2022 7:25 pm

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Fam you to hard on Wiggins. Who cares if he is a role player...He cant be liked because of that? Wiggins is a HIGH END Role player. The type you NEED on a team. He is no where near frank and obi etc. Come on now my G :lol:

I twll you this a million times. I would rather have Wiggins on this team over RJ any day of the week. If Wiggins is not a star to you fine I get all that, but dude is still a hell of a player to have for a team contending. IF the Warriors are saying they are here because of Wiggins then guess what, they know it to be true. They not saying it to just say it.

Hes aight as a role player. But the love fest for him is crazy here. His motor is still inconsistent. He has mad games where he is a no show (like the last one). And there's no reliable stats that back up his "great defense". I just find the obssession with role players here so weird.

To me this is like Frank all over again, even if Wiggins is better. The concept is still the same. Overrate role players who aint even the top 4 best players of they squad. Same schit with Obi. It never ends. :lol:

Knicks fans only want to win a championship with a team where no player averages double digit points, and nobody reaches league-average TS. I hate this fanbase :lol:

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Post#831 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu May 26, 2022 7:34 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Wiggins is just riding the coatails of Steph, Klay, Green and Poole and people are jealous Wiggins is not getting credit they think he deserves. Same people who tried to give D'angelo Bustell credit for Minnesota getting back in the playoffs who also was trash :lol:


Think people were just talking about him cause he had an epic dunk and has playing well. That dunk was vicious and Wiggins deserves his flowers for that.

Don’t think anyone is saying he is an mvp or carrying the team or anything. Don’t even think anyone would be talking about him anymore if you didn’t go on in on him for a few pages back there :lol:
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Post#833 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu May 26, 2022 7:47 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Wiggins is just riding the coatails of Steph, Klay, Green and Poole and people are jealous Wiggins is not getting credit they think he deserves. Same people who tried to give D'angelo Bustell credit for Minnesota getting back in the playoffs who also was trash :lol:


Think people were just talking about him cause he had an epic dunk and has playing well. That dunk was vicious and Wiggins deserves his flowers for that.

Don’t think anyone is saying he is an mvp or carrying the team or anything. Don’t even think anyone would be talking about him anymore if you didn’t go on in on him for a few pages back there :lol:

Nobody's really talking about Wiggins are they

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Post#834 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu May 26, 2022 7:53 pm

Luka has 59 points shooting 49% from the field and 44% from 3 with Wiggins guarding for a team high of 38 minutes and 5 seconds
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Post#835 » by HEZI » Thu May 26, 2022 7:55 pm

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I don't think Wiggins upside is out of the realm of possibility. He doesn't have the same tools though, especially as a defender and as a finisher.

My point about rare and unique was not about the Wiggins 3&D+ archetype but about the fact that every NBA player would likely be more efficient playing alongside Steph. It's not specific to Wiggins or hypothetically RJ.


In one paragraph you say RJ doesn’t have the tools to be a finisher like Wigging and in the next you call Wiggins a 3&D player. You are actually contradicting yourself because you know Wiggins brings a lot more versatility to his game than just 3&D

I said 3&D "+" as a an acknowledgment that Wiggins brings a little bit more to the table than 3s and defense (or 3s and drives).

But he's a role player for Golden State, who mostly eats off of Curry and Draymond's elite playmaking, and who benefits from elite, unprecedented, historical floor spacing across the line-up.

And with all that said, he does have better natural tools to fill that role than RJ does. He has quicker feet and better athleticism on defense, and even though he doesn't have good touch (like RJ), he is more athletic as a finisher.


Those guys are thriving off his elite finishing ability and shooting. Wiggins is one of their best shooters who helps open up the space and he’s one of the best slashers also. His ability to play off ball and on ball is what allows the Warriors to play how they play. I always said you can’t just plug in anybody there, Kelly Oubre couldn’t succeed there because he didn’t have the IQ to play their style. A guy like Julius Randle could never play in their system because he’s a black hole who can’t play off ball. A guy like Wiggins is valuable to them more than other teams because not everybody can fit their style and he’s proven he can.
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Post#836 » by HEZI » Thu May 26, 2022 7:58 pm

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Post#837 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu May 26, 2022 8:04 pm

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In one paragraph you say RJ doesn’t have the tools to be a finisher like Wigging and in the next you call Wiggins a 3&D player. You are actually contradicting yourself because you know Wiggins brings a lot more versatility to his game than just 3&D

I said 3&D "+" as a an acknowledgment that Wiggins brings a little bit more to the table than 3s and defense (or 3s and drives).

But he's a role player for Golden State, who mostly eats off of Curry and Draymond's elite playmaking, and who benefits from elite, unprecedented, historical floor spacing across the line-up.

And with all that said, he does have better natural tools to fill that role than RJ does. He has quicker feet and better athleticism on defense, and even though he doesn't have good touch (like RJ), he is more athletic as a finisher.


Those guys are thriving off his elite finishing ability and shooting. Wiggins is one of their best shooters who helps open up the space and he’s one of the best slashers also. His ability to play off ball and on ball is what allows the Warriors to play how they play. I always said you can’t just plug in anybody there, Kelly Oubre couldn’t succeed there because he didn’t have the IQ to play their style. A guy like Julius Randle could never play in their system because he’s a black hole who can’t play off ball. A guy like Wiggins is valuable to them more than other teams because not everybody can fit their style and he’s proven he can.

Yes he's performed well in that role. But he's replaceable in that role.

Wiggins probably gets the easiest shots on that line-up, outside of the occasional off-the-dribble middy. Credit to him, he's capitalizing on those opportunities but I don't think that makes him one of their best shooters per se. Curry, Klay, Poole are clearly better shooters than him.

He fits pretty nicely as a 4th/5th best player on that team. He benefits from Curry, Klay, Poole and Draymond more than they do from him.
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Post#838 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu May 26, 2022 8:08 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Wiggins is just riding the coatails of Steph, Klay, Green and Poole and people are jealous Wiggins is not getting credit they think he deserves. Same people who tried to give D'angelo Bustell credit for Minnesota getting back in the playoffs who also was trash :lol:


Think people were just talking about him cause he had an epic dunk and has playing well. That dunk was vicious and Wiggins deserves his flowers for that.

Don’t think anyone is saying he is an mvp or carrying the team or anything. Don’t even think anyone would be talking about him anymore if you didn’t go on in on him for a few pages back there :lol:

Nobody's really talking about Wiggins are they

:lol:


I am not even sure anymore :lol:

There’s only 4 teams left so only a certain amount of players to talk about. I don’t even know why Wiggins gets you guys so fired up. :lol:
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Post#839 » by Chanel Bomber » Thu May 26, 2022 8:09 pm

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Think people were just talking about him cause he had an epic dunk and has playing well. That dunk was vicious and Wiggins deserves his flowers for that.

Don’t think anyone is saying he is an mvp or carrying the team or anything. Don’t even think anyone would be talking about him anymore if you didn’t go on in on him for a few pages back there :lol:

Nobody's really talking about Wiggins are they

:lol:


I am not even sure anymore :lol:

There’s only 4 teams left so only a certain amount of players to talk about. I don’t even know why Wiggins gets you guys so fired up. :lol:

Because we're all talking about someone else by proxy. It's pretty obvious.

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Post#840 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu May 26, 2022 8:17 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
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Chanel Bomber wrote:Nobody's really talking about Wiggins are they

:lol:


I am not even sure anymore :lol:

There’s only 4 teams left so only a certain amount of players to talk about. I don’t even know why Wiggins gets you guys so fired up. :lol:

Because we're all talking about someone else by proxy. It's pretty obvious.

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True. Well, either Wiggins, Jaylen Brown, Jimmy Butler or Frank/Bullock will win a ring. We can’t lose!
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