Shams: Jalen Brunson to New York on 4 year/$104m deal

[Jalen Bluntson]

here's a good outline of what we need to happen for a sign and trade with Brunson https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2022/6/10/22976508/jalen-brunson-sign-and-trade-scenarios-mavericks-knicks

So...after trying to read that... what's the hold up?

This is me about a 3rd of the way through that...

Exactly.

[G_K_F]

Everyone loves moving Fournier and Rose until they get a steady diet of IQ, Cam and Grimes playing 30 mpg against starters

I thought our young players were great can't-miss elite prospects?

Never said by me. I said they were decent cost controlled guys who might as well play, especially since the vets weren't leading the team anywhere.

I don't know, you were sarcastic earlier when we were criticizing Knicks fans overrating young talent.

If Grimes isn't better than Fournier than what is good for? I at least have more faith in Grimes than that.

Derrick Rose is a 34 year old often injured PG. Hopefully someone on this roster is better than him too or else it's sad.

[moocow007]

So...after trying to read that... what's the hold up?

This is me about a 3rd of the way through that...

That article probably written by BX8etcetcetcetc

"I ain't no freaking computer, speak human!!! Do we got this or don't we?!?"

[thebuzzardman]

I thought our young players were great can't-miss elite prospects?

Never said by me. I said they were decent cost controlled guys who might as well play, especially since the vets weren't leading the team anywhere.

I don't know, you were sarcastic earlier when we were criticizing Knicks fans overrating young talent.

If Grimes isn't better than Fournier than what is good for? I at least have more faith in Grimes than that.

Derrick Rose is a 34 year old often injured PG. Hopefully someone on this roster is better than him too or else it's sad.

I've been an advocate of trading those guys to clear time for the youth for a while, but on the other hand, it occurred to me that once they start facing starters regularly, the youth will probably look pretty mediocre.

[G_K_F]

Never said by me. I said they were decent cost controlled guys who might as well play, especially since the vets weren't leading the team anywhere.

I don't know, you were sarcastic earlier when we were criticizing Knicks fans overrating young talent.

If Grimes isn't better than Fournier than what is good for? I at least have more faith in Grimes than that.

Derrick Rose is a 34 year old often injured PG. Hopefully someone on this roster is better than him too or else it's sad.

I've been an advocate of trading those guys to clear time for the youth for a while, but on the other hand, it occurred to me that once they start facing starters regularly, the youth will probably look pretty mediocre.

We won't know until they're given a chance.

This team is going nowhere so they should let the younger guys play.

But they will instead push for 8th seeds with Randle and Brunson.

[thebuzzardman]

I don't know, you were sarcastic earlier when we were criticizing Knicks fans overrating young talent.

If Grimes isn't better than Fournier than what is good for? I at least have more faith in Grimes than that.

Derrick Rose is a 34 year old often injured PG. Hopefully someone on this roster is better than him too or else it's sad.

I've been an advocate of trading those guys to clear time for the youth for a while, but on the other hand, it occurred to me that once they start facing starters regularly, the youth will probably look pretty mediocre.

We won't know until they're given a chance.

This team is going nowhere so they should let the younger guys play.

But they will instead push for 8th seeds with Randle and Brunson.

Probably. Not a good luck for the youth they can't push past such mediocrity and get playing time. Sad.

[G_K_F]

I've been an advocate of trading those guys to clear time for the youth for a while, but on the other hand, it occurred to me that once they start facing starters regularly, the youth will probably look pretty mediocre.

We won't know until they're given a chance.

This team is going nowhere so they should let the younger guys play.

But they will instead push for 8th seeds with Randle and Brunson.

Probably. Not a good luck for the youth they can't push past such mediocrity and get playing time. Sad.

The mediocrity of the head coach, yes.

[thebuzzardman]

We won't know until they're given a chance.

This team is going nowhere so they should let the younger guys play.

But they will instead push for 8th seeds with Randle and Brunson.

Probably. Not a good luck for the youth they can't push past such mediocrity and get playing time. Sad.

The mediocrity of the head coach, yes.

So the Knicks are bad only because of the coach?
Interesting.

[G_K_F]

Probably. Not a good luck for the youth they can't push past such mediocrity and get playing time. Sad.

The mediocrity of the head coach, yes.

So the Knicks are bad only because of the coach?
Interesting.

Didn't say that.

Interesting conclusion.

[TheGreenArrow]

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[duetta]

Knicks are probably better off dealing with Dallas in an effort to get them to withdraw their tampering charge.

[Capn'O]

It's possible that there's a sign and trade with Brunson involved but there are a few deals that have not been finalized yet that need to close before he can sign. It might be one of those and they might expand as well.

[3toheadmelo]

Knicks are probably better off dealing with Dallas in an effort to get them to withdraw their tampering charge.

i mean worst case scenario we lose a meaningless 2nd round pick. fk dallas i wouldn't help them

[Jeff Van Gully]

Timmy H?! Hecks no!

We finally get a PG after decades and of course they would do this to me

Thought he was referring to:

exactly who i was talking about

[duetta]

Knicks are probably better off dealing with Dallas in an effort to get them to withdraw their tampering charge.

i mean worst case scenario we lose a meaningless 2nd round pick. fk dallas i wouldn't help them

All three of our big men for next season are #2 picks. If you have a front office capable of drafting, a #2 pick can be a valuable thing.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Knicks are probably better off dealing with Dallas in an effort to get them to withdraw their tampering charge.

What tampering charge? It has not been reported that a charge was filed has it? I see a bunch of morons running with an out of context tweet from days ago but, nothing saying there was a charge.

[SARGO127]

Heat just lost a 2nd for tampering charges last year? Who cares

[F N 11]

Heat just lost a 2nd for tampering charges last year? Who cares

They would magically make it a 2nd to lol Knicks us. 100%…

[FrozenEnvelope]

Unless there are texts and emails and recorded phone calls to Brunson and his agent, how could they prove it?

[moocow007]

Knicks are probably better off dealing with Dallas in an effort to get them to withdraw their tampering charge.

That may be part of the reason why the Mavs threw tampering out there...they get a little bit extra out of the Knicks or not give as much.