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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#821 » by MrDollarBills » Wed May 28, 2025 5:42 pm

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I will never understand why he changed his shot, it just made no sense and why nobody stepped in to tell him not to do it is crazy. I don't even know what they can do with him, you either trade him or hold out hope he fixes the shot, there's nothing in between that. After these playoffs, who is going to trade for him too?


We gotta keep him and hope he turns the corner. Too much invested. He played 17 games without Brunson this year. His stats were much better.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/mikal-bridges-averages-with-and-without-brunson-2025

3 fewer minutes per game(so per 36 even more egregious). More points 17.1 to 19.7, more assists, fg% increases from 48.6 to 55.6, 3pt% from 35 to 37.7, more than double the free throw attempts per game and higher percentage, ts% from 57 to 64.

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There being a Ben Simmons sweepstakes is crazy.


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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#822 » by robillionaire » Wed May 28, 2025 5:42 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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I will never understand why he changed his shot, it just made no sense and why nobody stepped in to tell him not to do it is crazy. I don't even know what they can do with him, you either trade him or hold out hope he fixes the shot, there's nothing in between that. After these playoffs, who is going to trade for him too?


We gotta keep him and hope he turns the corner. Too much invested. He played 17 games without Brunson this year. His stats were much better.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/mikal-bridges-averages-with-and-without-brunson-2025

3 fewer minutes per game(so per 36 even more egregious). More points 17.1 to 19.7, more assists, fg% increases from 48.6 to 55.6, 3pt% from 35 to 37.7, more than double the free throw attempts per game and higher percentage, ts% from 57 to 64.

Ben Simmons
Mikal
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Lfg :lol:

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I AND1 this not because I agree, but because this is completely unhinged :lol:


There being a Ben Simmons sweepstakes is crazy.


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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#823 » by Guano » Wed May 28, 2025 5:43 pm

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The thing with grief is it never goes away we just learn how to live with it.


What is grief, but love persevering?


beautiful, we find ways to honor that which we valued and is gone.

Or by burning the world down with Ben Simmons :nonono:
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#824 » by MrDollarBills » Wed May 28, 2025 5:44 pm

K_ick_God wrote:The difference between Indiana and Boston, besides depth but Boston has shooting depth, is that Boston wasn’t going to gameplan for the Knicks or change the way they play.

Boston was gonna let Tatum win the game and take a lot of 3s. They won a title that way.

Indiana got gifted a game in G1 and used it to springboard. They played well at the start of G1, hit their first 8, and we still won handily if Thibs had not committed gross negligence. 0g did too.

Knicks stopped believing and Indiana made a concerted effort to watch what we did and counter it. Thibs seemed to do little to prepare or to adjust based on what was happening on the court. The game does NOT tell him what to do lol.


The game is yelling at him that he needs to retire.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#825 » by Capn'O » Wed May 28, 2025 5:44 pm

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oh I'm not denying his struggles especially from range. I also don't think he was ever going to fill the DD high volume 3 pt role either. He shot 50% from the field this year he was our 2nd best starter in terms of +/- throughout the year. He has played really good defense all playoffs and has had some monster 4th qtrs in sports...but the confidence and consistency swing way too much. The fact he actively tries to avoid contact is an issue.

In 4 games this series we are just getting owned in the Brunson minutes though...we have never been in that position before.


Do you think Brunson's ankle is making this worse? I don't recall getting picked apart like this ever with Brunson in the line up.


I'm sure it is playing a part. He was more active even in the post series. He seems limited but that also has to be on thibs and brunson to make an adjustment playing him for shorter stints and get rest because he doesn't have the extra pop.


I don't think it's the ankle. He's had that the whole playoffs and everyone's dinged up. I think Indy has a great plan for him to take away his options and force him to go hero ball. Like what Larry Brown did to Kobe in 2004.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#826 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed May 28, 2025 5:45 pm

robillionaire wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
We gotta keep him and hope he turns the corner. Too much invested. He played 17 games without Brunson this year. His stats were much better.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/mikal-bridges-averages-with-and-without-brunson-2025

3 fewer minutes per game(so per 36 even more egregious). More points 17.1 to 19.7, more assists, fg% increases from 48.6 to 55.6, 3pt% from 35 to 37.7, more than double the free throw attempts per game and higher percentage, ts% from 57 to 64.

Ben Simmons
Mikal
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Giannis
Towns

Lfg :lol:

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I AND1 this not because I agree, but because this is completely unhinged :lol:


There being a Ben Simmons sweepstakes is crazy.


Did you enjoy how I slow rolled it out there with some meaningful stats first before I hit you with the besart insanity? I know you did




A master of the craft, nobody even noticed that you traded Brunson in this scenario because it wasn't said. I can do nothing but tip my cap.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#827 » by Guano » Wed May 28, 2025 5:45 pm

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I did not just open this forsaken hell-site to get hit with Ben Simmons roster ideas.

You guys are the WORST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#828 » by MrDollarBills » Wed May 28, 2025 5:48 pm

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The thing with grief is it never goes away we just learn how to live with it.


What is grief, but love persevering?


beautiful, we find ways to honor that which we valued and is gone.

Or by burning the world down with Ben Simmons :nonono:


Thanks I stole it from a Marvel movie.

Ben Simmons is the kinda guy you'd want to have as your party member in a few rounds of Call of Duty. Basketball on the other hand....
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#829 » by Context » Wed May 28, 2025 5:52 pm

K_ick_God wrote:There was a rebound where someone was grabbing and mugging OG and they didn’t call a foul

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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#830 » by K_ick_God » Wed May 28, 2025 5:53 pm

To put a fine point on how badly G1 was blown - even if a coach did something totally unorthodox, like foul every Pacer with the ball starting at a few minutes and up until the last minute, you win the game. Pacers needed every last 3 Nesmith made. So if you send him to the line once or twice from 2:50 to about the 50 seconds remaining mark, you win.

Obviously most coaches won't consider such an approach and Thibs never would. But it's not really different from fouling up 3 in the closing seconds. ACTUALLY, it has far fewer risks, because you are starting early. You have multiple possessions where you're stopping them from getting 3 when you have a cushion, instead of when you have no cushion at the very end.

It's not crazy to think ahead and guarantee a win. No NFL team would run a play if they're up with the ball and can simply run out the clock. Knicks could have ensured the G1 win in multiple, multiple ways.

0g not bringing the ball back out or calling timeout, Thibs not calling timeout, Brunson doing stupid stuff, Thibs not calling timeout. Huge list of disastrous blunders. What would make the Knicks think this would not happen again next year? Thibs has no awareness of how much he blew it. Or not publicly anyway. Absolutely no reason to think he would correct it next game, next season. He keeps doing bad stuff. Even leaving Mitch in at the start of the second half last night was pretty stupid.

They deserve to lose and they know it - that's why they've played so poorly since G1, where they played very well. Basically an easy win lol. Feeling like you shouldn't win is kind of part of morale (why unjust wars tend to cause widespread morale loss among the troops).

Knicks could play at least a tight series with Indiana. They showed that in G1. Now they're disorganized, lacking direction, playing frantically, and not playing together, because there is an absence of competent coaching at the top.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#831 » by Guano » Wed May 28, 2025 5:57 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
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What is grief, but love persevering?


beautiful, we find ways to honor that which we valued and is gone.

Or by burning the world down with Ben Simmons :nonono:


Thanks I stole it from a Marvel movie.

Ben Simmons is the kinda guy you'd want to have as your party member in a few rounds of Call of Duty. Basketball on the other hand....


Id rather watch meLo fck up a sleeve of oreos than play call of duty with Benny and the boys or watch him in a knicks uniform for that matter.

Rob youre a real demon for getting us to post about Ben Simmons. Im impressed.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#832 » by dakomish23 » Wed May 28, 2025 6:02 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:


I AND1 this not because I agree, but because this is completely unhinged :lol:


There being a Ben Simmons sweepstakes is crazy.


Did you enjoy how I slow rolled it out there with some meaningful stats first before I hit you with the besart insanity? I know you did




A master of the craft, nobody even noticed that you traded Brunson in this scenario because it wasn't said. I can do nothing but tip my cap.


I completely missed that :lol:

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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#833 » by dakomish23 » Wed May 28, 2025 6:03 pm

K_ick_God wrote:To put a fine point on how badly G1 was blown - even if a coach did something totally unorthodox, like foul every Pacer with the ball starting at a few minutes and up until the last minute, you win the game. Pacers needed every last 3 Nesmith made. So if you send him to the line once or twice from 2:50 to about the 50 seconds remaining mark, you win.

Obviously most coaches won't consider such an approach and Thibs never would. But it's not really different from fouling up 3 in the closing seconds. ACTUALLY, it has far fewer risks, because you are starting early. You have multiple possessions where you're stopping them from getting 3 when you have a cushion, instead of when you have no cushion at the very end.

It's not crazy to think ahead and guarantee a win. No NFL team would run a play if they're up with the ball and can simply run out the clock. Knicks could have ensured the G1 win in multiple, multiple ways.

0g not bringing the ball back out or calling timeout, Thibs not calling timeout, Brunson doing stupid stuff, Thibs not calling timeout. Huge list of disastrous blunders. What would make the Knicks think this would not happen again next year? Thibs has no awareness of how much he blew it. Or not publicly anyway. Absolutely no reason to think he would correct it next game, next season. He keeps doing bad stuff. Even leaving Mitch in at the start of the second half last night was pretty stupid.

They deserve to lose and they know it - that's why they've played so poorly since G1, where they played very well. Basically an easy win lol. Feeling like you shouldn't win is kind of part of morale (why unjust wars tend to cause widespread morale loss among the troops).

Knicks could play at least a tight series with Indiana. They showed that in G1. Now they're disorganized, lacking direction, playing frantically, and not playing together, because there is an absence of competent coaching at the top.


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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#834 » by Jeff Van Gully » Wed May 28, 2025 6:04 pm

K_ick_God wrote:To put a fine point on how badly G1 was blown


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Post#835 » by K_ick_God » Wed May 28, 2025 6:05 pm

I still blame this partially on Thibs, but I have to admit that it's completely unfathomable that every time KAT moves, he grabs a guy's arm or tangles up his arm in such a way that the refs are forced to call a foul.

Thibs could instruct him carefully on this - don't raise your arms to get position. Keep them at your side. Turn and face the player if he's trying to lock your arm. Simon Says keep your arms in a soldier's position at your damn side.

Or maybe KAT simply can't make the most basic changes to his instincts. It's beyond bizarre.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#836 » by GONYK » Wed May 28, 2025 6:05 pm

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Do you think Brunson's ankle is making this worse? I don't recall getting picked apart like this ever with Brunson in the line up.


I'm sure it is playing a part. He was more active even in the post series. He seems limited but that also has to be on thibs and brunson to make an adjustment playing him for shorter stints and get rest because he doesn't have the extra pop.


I don't think it's the ankle. He's had that the whole playoffs and everyone's dinged up. I think Indy has a great plan for him to take away his options and force him to go hero ball. Like what Larry Brown did to Kobe in 2004.


I think this is what always will happen when you only have one creator on the whole roster.
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Post#837 » by Reign23 » Wed May 28, 2025 6:13 pm

god shammgod wrote:
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excuse me ?

:lol: nevermind. but yeah we lost the minutes you've mentioned because KAT was already a step slower at that time. Did a lot of heavy lifting again in this one and it showed.


if you're talking about mitch, i think he never got back in the game during 4th because we were in the penalty so quickly and the fear is they just start hacking him

and i'm not saying it's all kat's fault. i remember a dumb shamet shot. a wright turnover where he forget how to dribble. that lineup just couldn't repeat it's success and the pacers brought hali back pretty quickly and he wrapped it up.

was just kidding, because if KAT had a -20 and Mitch +3 you miiiiight have posted this :D
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Post#838 » by rajajackal » Wed May 28, 2025 6:14 pm

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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#839 » by MrDollarBills » Wed May 28, 2025 6:16 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Gravy wrote:Both teams have stretches where they play as poorly as each other. The Pacers just have better individual offensive players and more consistent shooters. Knicks fans seem to think Delon Wright is as good as Mathurin and KAT is Dirk.


NO. We think he's important in this series to release pressure from Brunson. Wright is a tactical response to what Carlisle is throwing at Brunson and when he's played it has worked.

It has nothing to do with this video game player rating ****. We need additional playmaking, ball handlings, and guard defense to slow Indy's attack on the other end and those are the things Wright can do well.


No one said that Wright was some kinda world beater.

He can defend the POA and he can handle the rock. That's what he's good at. He fills a role.

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Post#840 » by Reign23 » Wed May 28, 2025 6:19 pm

ah man.. this just sucks. had a tough day at work and was looking forward to see a knicks win afterwards. bummer
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