Breaking: Tom Fired

JayTWill · Post #821 » by **JayTWill** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:47 pm

I feel like Bryant will be the next coach for some reason. Maybe it is because of his connections with the current roster or maybe it was how quickly after it was reported that he was interviewing for the Suns jobs that Knicks announced Thibs.

I don't know much about him but I will always remember that he was the guy to approach Randle about his attitude and being a better teammate when others may not have wanted to confront him. You have to have a good relationship with your players but have to be willing to hold them accountable even in difficult moments.

Not sure how I feel about Malone. He is intriguing from the prospective that he had great success with an offensive minded center and another scoring guard but KAT isn't Jokic and I have never seen Brunson play a 2-man game the way Murray has. Malone was also another coach that ran an incredibly short rotation and seems to have worn out his welcome in Denver somehow.

SelbyCobra · Post #822 » by **SelbyCobra** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:48 pm

knicks1999 wrote:The bad part of this for us older Knicks fans is it seemed the Knicks were finally a stable organization with a good culture….no more going through Presidents/GM’s/Coaches….finally felt like a solid run Team …..even if we get a new coach that is successful….which I hope happens….just brings back a bit of PTSD….

I'm an older Knicks fan, and I feel exactly the opposite. Thibs being a stepping stone coach that needed to be moved on from is what a well run organization should be doing. Locking into emotional/personal favorites because of history/relationships, despite red flags is the poorly run organization style. Being proactive in addressing what many consider to be a fatal flaw - especially with it being Leon's man - is a great sign to me about the health and direction of this organization. It was about process, procedure, and production above personal relationships with this decision, and that feels GOOD to me.

This wasn't refusing to hand the keys over to Riley, This wasn't frustrating JVG to the point where he couldn't take it anymore, this was the Knicks president of basketball operations for the last 5+ years making the decision that the only coach he's ever hired, and a longtime personal friend, wasn't up to the competitive standard they needed to be a champion, and trying to take the next step. This is actually so far from the 90's mismanagement to me.

Kidknick! · Post #823 » by **Kidknick!** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:50 pm

G_K_F wrote:
Kidknick! wrote:
Red Vines wrote:This is probably the last coach move Leon Rose gets to make so I do wonder if he'll take a chance on anyone without NBA head coach experience.

Leon and Co are GOATED. They got a lot of more moves to make.

Relax bro.

This is the same guy that re-signed Burks and Noel and needed to use a bunch of 2nds to dump them on Detroit less than a year later.

Or the same guy that signed Fournier and Kemba.

He’s average at best. Let’s not act like he’s Sam Presti.

I disagree, Knicks are top 3 NBA front offices. Right behind OKC and their treasure trove. Let's not act like they didn't have trash seasons too. And the Thunder have benefited from doing it before the tank rules.

Context · Post #824 » by **Context** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:51 pm

Monk1718 wrote:

sorry guys...I dont need Metta choking the **** out of Kat when he doesnt communicate :lol:

nyknicks09 · Post #825 » by **nyknicks09** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:51 pm

god shammgod wrote:everyone seems to think it's mike malone

Mike Malone is a proven champion. I don’t know how he coached Porter Jr. cause he’s overrated.

He has a lot of talent in this roster and KAT can benefit from it. Jalen Brunson will be his Murray and I can see him playing 8 players during the season.

KnixinSix · Post #826 » by **KnixinSix** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:51 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
knicks1999 wrote:The bad part of this for us older Knicks fans is it seemed the Knicks were finally a stable organization with a good culture….no more going through Presidents/GM’s/Coaches….finally felt like a solid run Team …..even if we get a new coach that is successful….which I hope happens….just brings back a bit of PTSD….

I'm an older Knicks fan, and I feel exactly the opposite. Thibs being a stepping stone coach that needed to be moved on from is what a well run organization should be doing. Locking into emotional/personal favorites because of history/relationships, despite red flags is the poorly run organization style. Being proactive in addressing what many consider to be a fatal flaw - especially with it being Leon' man - is a great sign to me about the health and direction of this organization. It was about process, procedure, and production above personal relationships with this decision, and that feels GOOD to me.

This wasn't refusing to hand the keys over to Riley, This wasn't frustrating JVG to the point where he couldn't take it anymore, this was the Knicks president of basketball operations for the last 5+ years making the decision that the only coach he's ever hired, and a longtime personal friend, wasn't up to the competitive standard they needed to be a champion, and trying to take the next step. This is actually so far from the 90's mismanagement to me.

PERSPECTIVE. Bravo fine sir!

Context · Post #827 » by **Context** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:52 pm

Dam! I finally caught up...42 pages...

KnixinSix · Post #828 » by **KnixinSix** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:53 pm

nyknicks09 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:everyone seems to think it's mike malone

Mike Malone is a proven champion. I don’t know how he coached Porter Jr. cause he’s overrated.

He has a lot of talent in this roster and KAT can benefit from it. Jalen Brunson will be his Murray and I can see him playing 8 players during the season.

Who is 'everyone'?

Because everyone is wrong.....

LFGK · Post #829 » by **LFGK** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:55 pm

Hurley
Bryant
JVG

That's the order and nobody else should be considered, they'll get it rite

Post #830 » by **HerSports85** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:57 pm

KFTV says that players will be a part of picking the next coach.

lol can't tell me Brunson not on the same accord with Leon.

Kidknick! · Post #831 » by **Kidknick!** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:58 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
knicks1999 wrote:The bad part of this for us older Knicks fans is it seemed the Knicks were finally a stable organization with a good culture….no more going through Presidents/GM’s/Coaches….finally felt like a solid run Team …..even if we get a new coach that is successful….which I hope happens….just brings back a bit of PTSD….

I'm an older Knicks fan, and I feel exactly the opposite. Thibs being a stepping stone coach that needed to be moved on from is what a well run organization should be doing. Locking into emotional/personal favorites because of history/relationships, despite red flags is the poorly run organization style. Being proactive in addressing what many consider to be a fatal flaw - especially with it being Leon's man - is a great sign to me about the health and direction of this organization. It was about process, procedure, and production above personal relationships with this decision, and that feels GOOD to me.

This wasn't refusing to hand the keys over to Riley, This wasn't frustrating JVG to the point where he couldn't take it anymore, this was the Knicks president of basketball operations for the last 5+ years making the decision that the only coach he's ever hired, and a longtime personal friend, wasn't up to the competitive standard they needed to be a champion, and trying to take the next step. This is actually so far from the 90's mismanagement to me.

I been a fan since 89' and this is by far the BEST stretch of transactions and team building done by far. And by a former AGENT no less... This fallacy that it's dogma that Knicks basketball HAS TO BE DEFENSE FIRST! Just because when they got to the Finals that's how they played then pisses me off to no end.

This living in the past and everything MUST be like it was in the 90's is really DAMAGING to actual progress. Just silly, if this team wins a title being a high powered offensive machine, would that mean any less? The point is to win.

nyknicks09 · Post #832 » by **nyknicks09** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 11:58 pm

JBreezeNY wrote:
god shammgod wrote:everyone seems to think it's mike malone

Oh god no.

He’s Thibs but with 5 out.

Short rotations, doesn’t hold top players accountable, offense is predictable, defense is predictable, wears out his welcome after a while.

Perhaps he will adapt and change his way after getting fired by the Nuggets before the playoffs started. It could be a rude awakening for him if he gets a chance to coach the Knicks.

KnixinSix · Post #833 » by **KnixinSix** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 12:03 am

HerSports85 wrote:KFTV says that players will be a part of the picking the next coach.

lol can't tell me Brunson not on the same accord with Leon.

More Smoke that leads to Bryant. The majority of players apparently loved him his 3-4 years on the staff.

knicksNOTslick · Post #834 » by **knicksNOTslick** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 12:04 am

I dunno how I feel about it. I like Thibs but we do need a new coach to lead us to the championship. We probably should have offered him a front office position. Where else is Thibs gonna go?

Nicnac · Post #835 » by **Nicnac** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 12:04 am

The front office benched Josh and made thibs play the bench. Josh is writing good bye letters to NYC bc he has asked for a trade. That's the tea leaves I have been reading. Injuries has never made thibs play 9 or 10 players

Thibs stubbornness was exposed

Post #836 » by **HerSports85** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 12:05 am

Read on Twitter

Red Vines · Post #837 » by **Red Vines** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 12:07 am

Nicnac wrote:The front office benched Josh and made thibs play the bench. Josh is writing good bye letters to NYC bc he has asked for atrade. That's the team leaves I have been reading. Injuries has never made thibs play 9 or 10 players

Thibs stubbornness was exposed

Maybe. I know you could make a time lapse of Hart postgame from November to June and it would go from constantly making jokes to deep depression.

Post #838 » by **HerSports85** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 12:07 am

Nicnac wrote:The front office benched Josh and made thibs play the bench. Josh is writing good bye letters to NYC bc he has asked for atrade. That's the team leaves I have been reading. Injuries has never made thibs play 9 or 10 players

Thibs stubbornness was exposed

From what's being reported is that the FO kept asking for Mitch to start and Thibs said no. It was Josh that finally requested to come off the bench. This made Leon upset, because it took for Josh to step up for something to change and not the coach.

Remember Josh saying in the beginning of the season he didn't fit in the starting lineup and maybe he should come off the bench. He didn't know what his role was. And what was the reasoning KFTV said players wanted a new voice ... because they weren't clear of their roles. Also Josh was the first player to bring up how changes were going to happen.

KnixinSix · Post #839 » by **KnixinSix** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 12:09 am

Nicnac wrote:The front office benched Josh and made thibs play the bench. Josh is writing good bye letters to NYC bc he has asked for atrade. That's the team leaves I have been reading. Injuries has never made thibs play 9 or 10 players

Thibs stubbornness was exposed

I do wonder if Hart could be traded. He was a Thibs obsession.

KnixinSix · Post #840 » by **KnixinSix** » Wed Jun 4, 2025 12:09 am

HerSports85 wrote:
Nicnac wrote:The front office benched Josh and made thibs play the bench. Josh is writing good bye letters to NYC bc he has asked for atrade. That's the team leaves I have been reading. Injuries has never made thibs play 9 or 10 players

Thibs stubbornness was exposed

From what's being reported is that the FO kept asking for Mitch to start and Thibs said no. It was Josh that finally requested to come off the bench. This made Leon upset, because it took for Josh to step up for something to change and not the coach.

Possible but it could be also be how it was presented to the public.