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Iron Mantis wrote:god shammgod wrote:Iron Mantis wrote:Or...Zen his way to the 1st overall pick.
The signings were merely a cover-up to make fans think we can compete. They are tradeable contracts.
Meanwhile in the background, we are secretly forced to run the "triangle defense" in practice, which translates very clearly into a tank move.
who is taking noah or lance thomas ?
Lol IDK but one team's trash is another team's treasure.
Sark wrote:Melo has to ask to be traded
NYKfan77 wrote:After thinking about it I think the major problem that the Knicks have is confusion and our bench is awful. When I look on the court everyone seems to be thinking about what they are doing instead of just playing.
Nobody knows what offense we are running half the time. Nobody knows where to be on the court. Are we running triangle this time down? Are we doing PnR? Who is in the PnR? When do I cut where do I cut to?
Defense are we switching? Hedging screens? Go under? Double? Go over? Double and recover? Who rotates where? Should I help and rotate back to my man or is someone covering for me?
There seems to be to much confusion on the court and it is causing the disinterested look and attitude from our players. They are all vets except KP and they come out every day and talk about doing this and doing that but when they get on the court there is confusion about how that needs to get done.
That is on coaching and Phil. IMO. This team while may not be the best constructed team has talent to at least compete night in and night out. They have Vets that are willing to compete but something is missing and I believe it is all about coaching and management mix messages.
Poohdini1 wrote:blueNorange wrote:Poohdini1 wrote:Rose really not that bad don't blame dude for calling his number the offense is trash. Idk wtf Phil did but the team looks completely different than the one that played against Memphis Saturday.
a rose fan defending rose.
rose is garbage and has been garbage for 2 years now.
Define garbage. It just looks worse because his ceiling was MVP and he's not close to that anymore.
NYKfan77 wrote:I watched some of the highlights from the Pistons game and one play really stood out because it pointed to what I was talking about above.
The play where Morris shook Melo and got all the way to the basket for a lay-up. First problem bad individual defense. Melo was way to aggressive to start the set and over played and overreacted to Morris first move so he got blown by. Second problem when you watch the play both KP and Noah are either standing in the paint or standing on the opposite block. Neither player rotated over to cover that mistake? Why how can that even happen? Noah and KP both have better defensive IQ than to let a player have a free lay-up. But they both stood and watched him lay it in. Last year KP would have went hard after the block even if he gave a lay-up to his man. Noah from watching his Bulls days would have slide over to try and take the charge and if they dumped it off to his man for a lay-up he would have yelled at someone for not rotating down to cover him. Instead none of that happened and they just watched.
That is just one play but is sums up all the issues we are having on defense.
Capn'O wrote:Sark wrote:Melo has to ask to be traded
Yes. That is the first step.
Once that happens, both Phil and Melo share control over the outcome. Until that happens, Phil has none.
DaGawd wrote:The Knicks will find a way to ruin KP.. if not the organization the fanbase will..
Capn'O wrote:Sark wrote:Melo has to ask to be traded
Yes. That is the first step.
Once that happens, both Phil and Melo share control over the outcome. Until that happens, Phil has none.
blueNorange wrote:Poohdini1 wrote:blueNorange wrote:a rose fan defending rose.
rose is garbage and has been garbage for 2 years now.
Define garbage. It just looks worse because his ceiling was MVP and he's not close to that anymore.
garbage, not good at all.
or in better words, your screen name has a new meaning. derrick rose is poo.
duetta wrote:This thread has become a toxic dump. We need to call the EPA in to begin cleanup.
Sark wrote:Capn'O wrote:Sark wrote:Melo has to ask to be traded
Yes. That is the first step.
Once that happens, both Phil and Melo share control over the outcome. Until that happens, Phil has none.
Phil has control no matter what.
Melo: "TRADE ME!!!"
Phil: "No"
Melo: "K"
“We run the triangle, we practice against it a lot,” Lee said. “I think we need to practice against pick and rolls, practice against other looks and whatnot and get accustomed, get comfortable with that.
“Because that’s what other teams are running. They’re coming in here, they’re spacing the floor and they’re doing that and we’re not getting stops.”
god shammgod wrote:if kp aint great it's because of kp. bad teams have good players break out all the time. the kings are the worst run franchise, he has the worst attitude possible and still that hasn't stopped cousins from being pretty damn good. stop it.
JXL wrote:I FOUND IT! I KNOW WHAT'S WRONG!
We need to end the triangle fiasco. Sorry PJax, it has to end.
Courtney Lee said this last night:“We run the triangle, we practice against it a lot,” Lee said. “I think we need to practice against pick and rolls, practice against other looks and whatnot and get accustomed, get comfortable with that.
“Because that’s what other teams are running. They’re coming in here, they’re spacing the floor and they’re doing that and we’re not getting stops.”
This triangle stuff has to end PJax. You don't have the players, nor the time to get it done. It has to go.
SMAC-K wrote:NYKfan77 wrote:I watched some of the highlights from the Pistons game and one play really stood out because it pointed to what I was talking about above.
The play where Morris shook Melo and got all the way to the basket for a lay-up. First problem bad individual defense. Melo was way to aggressive to start the set and over played and overreacted to Morris first move so he got blown by. Second problem when you watch the play both KP and Noah are either standing in the paint or standing on the opposite block. Neither player rotated over to cover that mistake? Why how can that even happen? Noah and KP both have better defensive IQ than to let a player have a free lay-up. But they both stood and watched him lay it in. Last year KP would have went hard after the block even if he gave a lay-up to his man. Noah from watching his Bulls days would have slide over to try and take the charge and if they dumped it off to his man for a lay-up he would have yelled at someone for not rotating down to cover him. Instead none of that happened and they just watched.
That is just one play but is sums up all the issues we are having on defense.
I remember that play. I think Melo over played Morris because on a couple of plays before that, Morris was hitting jumpers right in his face. This resulted in Melo playing tighter on Morris but Morris then just blew right by him. When you decide you are going to do that, there has to be communication between the players. Melo needed to tell Noah that he was going to send him his way on the next play Morris catches the ball. There has to be communication. It's not rocket science, we do it on the freakin playground. Just talk and let eachother know what you are going to do, don't just assume that help is going to be there. If you are playing a guy straight up and forcing him to shoot over you for the first couple plays, then all of a sudden you decide you are going to over play him on the next possession, you absolutely must inform the guy in the paint that you are going to force your man his way so he is ready and alert. We seem to be lacking in communication and guys are just not on the same page.