Knicks sign Hardaway

N Y K · Post #841 » by **N Y K** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:32 am

MP4LIFE wrote:Only trolls are supporting this move around the forum.

The actual people who understand ball know his is terrible.

K

F N 11 · Post #842 » by **F N 11** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:32 am

This guy loves Melo.

Da_Mane_Man · Post #843 » by **Da_Mane_Man** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:33 am

Mecca wrote:
Da_Mane_Man wrote:
Mecca wrote:
I'm going for executive right now. I'm going to grad school for this. Lets make it happen.

In a positive light, THJ grew a lot as a player last year. Still offensively minded, but we'd have him during prime of career.

Nice man. Go for it. Rutgers?

How? He f*cking played 17 minutes a game in the regular season! He actually had a worse year than the 2 years he played for us. Someone said he played 33mpg in the playoffs. That just makes me think of one name ... Jerome James.

He's not even anywhere close to what we need. We have Lee and Dotson looks like a legit steal. On top of that, Doncic and Porter Jr are both wings in next year's draft ... which we were SUPPOSED to be tanking for.

Yeah, was between NYU and Rutgers. Opted for less financial debt.

That's what is killing me as well bro. Doncic and Porter Jr. are wings. I loved that we had that slot available. Even worse, it lessens our chance at landing them in the draft.

POST ASB:

17.5 PPG / TS% of .593 / 3PT% of .373

If we can get those #'s extrapolated over the duration of the contract, it'll match the money he's given. He's also a perfect fit in Horny's system.

Nice. I got my bachelor's from RU in 08. I hope their Deans are much better there days. I went to speak to one in the Sports Management program when I was trying to decide my major, and after a 5 minute conversation, she told me that the major "wasn't for me". She could tell. :roll:

God, I was just getting excited about Porter too. Just yesterday I watched a documentary about him and I would catch myself being so happy during the day that we actually had a shot at him. Mainly, I was happy cause it seemed like we were going in the right direction for once in the last 20 years. And then this move does a complete 180 on all that sh*t.

I guess he's improved a bit since he left. Whatever. He now has a Noah deal. Smh.

koogiking · Post #844 » by **koogiking** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:33 am

TheBigBoss wrote:A trade kicker? FML! I can't wait to find out that we gave him a no trade clause and a job for his dad.

Yeah I don't like that move. Don't like that the Knicks give those out so easily. The deal itself though I don't think is so bad

Post #845 » by **duetta** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:33 am

This is absolutely not the kind of move to make when you have no idea what the next president / GM will want.

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #846 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:33 am

Jables120 wrote:It will cost money to get a player that has potential to break out. Look at Gordon Hayward's stats after his 4th year before he signed his big contract: 16/5/5 on .413/.304.

Hayward already had displayed playmaking skills and had the size to clearly grow into a better role and was 23. THJR is clearly defensively limited, is not a playmaker, and may have the potential to be a solid shooter and is 25. Worlds of difference.

Post #847 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:33 am

im going to bed, sleeping on it, and I better wake up with some kind of clue why this offer was made...

Post #848 » by **Capn'O** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:33 am

Mecca wrote:
Greenie wrote:
Slicin N Dicin wrote:
You loving this though...I see you on here

I'm streaming some Boondocks and calling it a night....lemme get a count of how many people you set off tonight lmaoo

I never wanted to trade Timmy.
I really saw something in him. I'm happy he's back. Fuq the haters Timmy!!!

THJ excels in transition.

Horny loves transition offense.

He's gonna score a lot of points. He might average 20.

Still

Watch on YouTube

robillionaire · Post #849 » by **robillionaire** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:33 am

koogiking wrote:JJ Reddick just got 23 million a year (for one year)

Tim Hardaway is JJ Reddick but younger, with more athleticism and potential. This is not that bad of a deal

He's better than reddick IMO.

NYKnicksFTW · Post #850 » by **NYKnicksFTW** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:33 am

Jables120 wrote:It will cost money to get a player that has potential to break out. Look at Gordon Hayward's stats after his 4th year before he signed his big contract: 16/5/5 on .413/.304.

Hardaway Jr. doesn't really do anything well. 35% from three, can't rebound, can't pass the ball, can't defend

Post #851 » by **dakomish23** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:33 am

Worst part m

This isn't even in the top 3 worst decisions by this franchise since this decade started :rofl2:

Post #852 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:33 am

koogiking wrote:JJ Reddick just got 23 million a year (for one year)

Tim Hardaway is JJ Reddick but younger, with more athleticism and potential. This is not that bad of a deal

Man, if I see one more person try to justify this by comparing it to other contacts.

All that matters is THIS contract for THIS team in it's CURRENT state. And it absolutely sucks and wipes out any flexibility we could have had over the next few years.

DowNY · Post #853 » by **DowNY** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:33 am

EchelonNYK wrote:
Greenie wrote:Go Timmy Go Timmy

Greenie · Post #854 » by **Greenie** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:34 am

Traveyknicks23 · Post #855 » by **Traveyknicks23** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:34 am

Greenie wrote:
Traveyknicks23 wrote:
Greenie wrote:I missed you Timmy

Stop it you know damn well this **** is trash

JM88 · Post #856 » by **JM88** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:34 am

koogiking wrote:That would actually be around what Allan Crabbes is getting and he's better than Crabbe

There is a little difference though. Portland wanted to trade us a first round pick, if we decided to take on Crabbe's contract. I like Hardaway, but this is still overpaying. I would have rather used the cap space to accumulate more picks.

Jables120 · Post #857 » by **Jables120** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:34 am

aq_ua wrote:
Jables120 wrote:It will cost money to get a player that has potential to break out. Look at Gordon Hayward's stats after his 4th year before he signed his big contract: 16/5/5 on .413/.304.

Hayward always played defense and knew how to position himself. Hardaway is a brainless chicken on defense.

Is he? How many games of his did you watch last season?

Post #858 » by **Capn'O** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:34 am

duetta wrote:This is absolutely not the kind of move to make when you have no idea what the next president / GM will want.

Oh we know EXACTLY who our next president will be :lol:

sol537 · Post #859 » by **sol537** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:34 am

I'm not a fan of this move but I will hold out hope that THjr will be a late bloomer like his dad... that's one tremendous pedigree. A part of me believes that THjr will earn this contract, as outrageous as it looks right now.

There is a possibility Gaines advised on this...

Knicks_Fan2 · Post #860 » by **Knicks_Fan2** » Fri Jul 7, 2017 4:34 am

robillionaire wrote:
koogiking wrote:JJ Reddick just got 23 million a year (for one year)

Tim Hardaway is JJ Reddick but younger, with more athleticism and potential. This is not that bad of a deal

He's better than reddick IMO.

4 years and a trade kicker is an exponentially worse contract than Redick's? Wtf comparisons are you guys even making?