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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#841 » by K_ick_God » Wed Sep 4, 2019 3:42 pm

He’s twenty-one and doesn’t need to be a good scorer to be helpful. That’s why he’s coddled.

Maybe we are sick of watching guys chuck and the team suck from bad D.
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#842 » by br7knicks » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:01 pm

KnicksGod wrote:He’s twenty-one and doesn’t need to be a good scorer to be helpful. That’s why he’s coddled.

Maybe we are sick of watching guys chuck and the team suck from bad D.


To this day, it boggles me how much some people here haven't learned from this.

This behavior produces NO chance of winning; we've learned that the last 10 years.

Time to try defense and smart basketball, like the other successful teams
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#843 » by br7knicks » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:03 pm

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melo4three wrote:I think we gotta start frank in the g-league and see if he can dominate there. Maybe bring him up if someone gets injured.


Yep. It would be great if he could continue his development there, and bring that momentum with him when he’s needed.


This should've been done from the start. College to the NBA is different from Europe young leagues to NBA
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#844 » by god shammgod » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:04 pm

the successful teams have generational players. that's their big "secret" to winning.
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#845 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:05 pm

god shammgod wrote:the successful teams have generational players. that's their big "secret" to winning.


...and the right role players
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#846 » by br7knicks » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:07 pm

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They used to call me a DSJ hater and a Frank apologist. :D


Just let the best guys win. Just put together the right combinations of players. Please, Fizdale, please! (I just don't trust this mofo.)


Damn, Knox not gonna a see a second of time over Morris and Iggy and even Dotson then.

Maybe he can ask Frank for sartorial advice


I'm a Knox hater, but he didn't look too bad in SL. He didn't look good, but not as lazy and stupid as last season.

If Knox is really meant to be in NY, fix will play Morris and Iggy over knox because they'll earn it. If Knox is meant to stay, he'll find a way to outplay them. Although I like Iggy and want him around long term
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#847 » by br7knicks » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:08 pm

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god shammgod wrote:the successful teams have generational players. that's their big "secret" to winning.


...and the right role players


No...don't you know....people here only want all stars at all 13 roster spots. AND only if they need the ball do be useful.


That is the true mark of a successful team
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#848 » by god shammgod » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:11 pm

GONYK wrote:
god shammgod wrote:the successful teams have generational players. that's their big "secret" to winning.


...and the right role players


a lot of guys look like the right role players once they're playing with a lebron. unless you're big on matthew dellavedova and mario chalmers.
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#849 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:16 pm

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GONYK wrote:
god shammgod wrote:the successful teams have generational players. that's their big "secret" to winning.


...and the right role players


a lot of guys look like the right role players once they're playing with a lebron. unless you're big on matthew dellavedova and mario chalmers.


I'm more of a Derek Fisher guy
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#850 » by god shammgod » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:17 pm

p.s if frank was actually as consistently good on defense as everyone claims he is, he would have found the minutes he needed. mitch doesn't need to score to get minutes. because mitch never disappoints on that end.

i told you, you're gonna make me turn on this kid lol
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#851 » by br7knicks » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:17 pm

Oh, and more chuckers, who won't play defense, and with no IQ, would be helpful as well.

Knicks should repeat the last ten years. Always works out great.



Was it Einstein who said the definition of insanity is, doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.


Some people... :nonono:
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#852 » by j4remi » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:25 pm

god shammgod wrote:p.s if frank was actually as consistently good on defense as everyone claims he is, he would have found the minutes he needed. mitch doesn't need to score to get minutes. because mitch never disappoints on that end.

i told you, you're gonna make me turn on this kid lol


This didn't even hold true for Mitch until we dumped Enes Kanter and Fizdale asked for Deandre Jordan's permission though :lol:
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#853 » by god shammgod » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:27 pm

j4remi wrote:
god shammgod wrote:p.s if frank was actually as consistently good on defense as everyone claims he is, he would have found the minutes he needed. mitch doesn't need to score to get minutes. because mitch never disappoints on that end.

i told you, you're gonna make me turn on this kid lol


This didn't even hold true for Mitch until we dumped Enes Kanter and Fizdale asked for Deandre Jordan's permission though :lol:


that's when he got starter minutes, but he played all year.
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#854 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:34 pm

god shammgod wrote:p.s if frank was actually as consistently good on defense as everyone claims he is, he would have found the minutes he needed. mitch doesn't need to score to get minutes. because mitch never disappoints on that end.

i told you, you're gonna make me turn on this kid lol


Frank was one of the best in the league when he was given a consistent defensive role. He took a step back when he was inserted at 4 different positions and asked to cover for Trey Burke.

His size advantage that makes him a potentially dominant backcourt defender is reduced when he's guarding 3's and 4's. We'll see if Frank's added bulk mitigates that.

If Mitch was out there guarding 1-2's instead of 4/5's, he would struggle too. Mitch thrived in a consistent role where he could use his speed.
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#855 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:36 pm

j4remi wrote:
god shammgod wrote:p.s if frank was actually as consistently good on defense as everyone claims he is, he would have found the minutes he needed. mitch doesn't need to score to get minutes. because mitch never disappoints on that end.

i told you, you're gonna make me turn on this kid lol


This didn't even hold true for Mitch until we dumped Enes Kanter and Fizdale asked for Deandre Jordan's permission though :lol:


I can't believe we spent so much time kissing DeAndre Jordan's ass :lol:
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#856 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Sep 4, 2019 4:46 pm

god shammgod wrote:p.s if frank was actually as consistently good on defense as everyone claims he is, he would have found the minutes he needed. mitch doesn't need to score to get minutes. because mitch never disappoints on that end.

i told you, you're gonna make me turn on this kid lol


He's that good on defense. His offense just wasn't (isn't?) good enough.

Mitch is good on defense and just good enough on offense to get minutes. He does one thing well on offense, but again, does that one effective thing well.
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#857 » by a-French-Fan » Wed Sep 4, 2019 5:00 pm

mpharris36 wrote:So france seems to think Frank is the future of there team but the worst team in basketball last year has no use for him?

Hmmmmm

Maybe Knicks are among worst teams because they don't use him :)

More seriously, I was confident for him After the end of his rookie Season, and then Knicks had 4 PGs ...
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#858 » by K_ick_God » Wed Sep 4, 2019 5:13 pm

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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#859 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Sep 4, 2019 5:19 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:He’s twenty-one and doesn’t need to be a good scorer to be helpful. That’s why he’s coddled.

Maybe we are sick of watching guys chuck and the team suck from bad D.


To this day, it boggles me how much some people here haven't learned from this.

This behavior produces NO chance of winning; we've learned that the last 10 years.

Time to try defense and smart basketball, like the other successful teams


True. All the good teams defend. Much of our success from the 90's was from defense. We have been one of the worst defensive teams in the league the last few years.

If we want to get the most out of this roster it has to start on defense and Frank would need to be a part of that. There are def some rotations we can run out there that should be able to defend avg to good.

It just never seems like me make it a huge priority though.
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Re: The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread 

Post#860 » by GONYK » Wed Sep 4, 2019 5:23 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:He’s twenty-one and doesn’t need to be a good scorer to be helpful. That’s why he’s coddled.

Maybe we are sick of watching guys chuck and the team suck from bad D.


To this day, it boggles me how much some people here haven't learned from this.

This behavior produces NO chance of winning; we've learned that the last 10 years.

Time to try defense and smart basketball, like the other successful teams


True. All the good teams defend. Much of our success from the 90's was from defense. We have been one of the worst defensive teams in the league the last few years.

If we want to get the most out of this roster it has to start on defense and Frank would need to be a part of that. There are def some rotations we can run out there that should be able to defend avg to good.

It just never seems like me make it a huge priority though.


Frank guarding the 1 and Mitch at the 5 = top 10 defense.

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