2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

[spree2kawhi]

Unless he is a better defender than I remember I don’t think we need this trade like we did last year.

I think we definitely still do. A string of wins versus mediocre and bad terms doesn't change the fact that we need size, shot creation and shooting in the starting lineup. It would be great if he was a good defender too but I'll settle for 3 out of 4 for the Low price of Fournier and a crappy protect first.

PS Watching his first comback game versus the Cavs last night cemented my opinion. Boggy would help us so much.

He is still the best choice to plug into this lineup in different situations and not shake up the core of this team. He is a big time shot maker who doesn't fold under pressure.

And now watch him land with a contender as the core of this team is ass. After all, we have but one player to write home about.

[RHODEY]

I think we definitely still do. A string of wins versus mediocre and bad terms doesn't change the fact that we need size, shot creation and shooting in the starting lineup. It would be great if he was a good defender too but I'll settle for 3 out of 4 for the Low price of Fournier and a crappy protect first.

PS Watching his first comback game versus the Cavs last night cemented my opinion. Boggy would help us so much.

He is still the best choice to plug into this lineup in different situations and not shake up the core of this team. He is a big time shot maker who doesn't fold under pressure.

And now watch him land with a contender as the core of this team is ass. After all, we have but one player to write home about.

Maybe but do those contenders have a huge expiring contacts and picks to give?

[sol537]

NYK has a good relationship with the Pistons front office. I could see Fournier + protected pick for Bogs especially if we move Grimes or IQ in a separate deal.

[nykballa2k4]

OG is a high-end role player. More importantly, he is the sort of player that can star in a game without scoring or only scoring on a few shots because he would be packing the stat sheet elsewhere, would be taking on the other teams top gun. Like a Harrison Barnes upgrade.

Barnes, FWIW, would be my "affordable" target.

Everytime I see OG play I am underwhelmed. A few shots a game? He is averaging 12 shots a game now and doesnt exactly stuff the stat sheets averaging 4 rebounds with 2 assists a game. Yes he will get a few blocks or steals but his play is sloppy. He isn't worth the asking price or the kind of extention he is seeking. He is highly overhyped.

I never got the asking price. He's guy you want on your team, but there is a limit.

The trick will be when he get paid... then you are going to have parted with 3 FRP value for a role player making all-star money.

All I want is Tayshaun Prince

[nykballa2k4]

NYK has a good relationship with the Pistons front office. I could see Fournier + protected pick for Bogs especially if we move Grimes or IQ in a separate deal.

Could see something like us giving them their pick back plus wiz pick in the exchange. But Thibs wouldn't use Bogs so idk.. more likely we use that package to get Burks lol

[HopelessKnick]

I think you just go for DM and hope it works out at this point. No one is trading any of those top tier two way wing forward players here. Brunson has developed into a pretty great catch and shoot guy so I think it could work on offense. Both are pretty efficient overall and difficult to guard. You then get a guy like DFS in there and hope that the team overall is going to be good enough to beat other top teams.

Keep in mind that a team like Denver won the title with basically two good defenders in the line-up and the rest mostly offensive players. Brunson has been very effective with another ball-dominant guy (Doncic) as well so he knows how to play that. I think it's out best shot overall.

[Chanel Bomber]

If the plan is to get a superstar you keep Brunson (and imo IQ) as a foundational piece and move everyone else for as many unprotected firsts as you can get, even if it's a total of two.

The value of unprotected firsts is fairly stable. I don't see RJ or Randle improving their value over time, let alone to the moment in time when a superstar is actually available for the best offer.

Or you can roll the dice on Zion and pray you can get him right and extract the most of his talent. It's a scary proposition. The first path is less concrete but far less risky.

I think Mitchell ends up on the Nets or Heat. I think it makes much less sense for the Knicks to go for him in 2024 or 2025 than in 2022.

[ScienceOfLosing]

NYK has a good relationship with the Pistons front office. I could see Fournier + protected pick for Bogs especially if we move Grimes or IQ in a separate deal.

Could see something like us giving them their pick back plus wiz pick in the exchange. But Thibs wouldn't use Bogs so idk.. more likely we use that package to get Burks lol

Could you imagine Thibs being happy with Bogs defense? I don’t get the talk when Frenchy is on the bench.
We get Bogs and we are a more solid mid team who just got older, less athletic and lost more assets.

Where are we going?

[WargamesX]

NYK has a good relationship with the Pistons front office. I could see Fournier + protected pick for Bogs especially if we move Grimes or IQ in a separate deal.

Could see something like us giving them their pick back plus wiz pick in the exchange. But Thibs wouldn't use Bogs so idk.. more likely we use that package to get Burks lol

Could you imagine Thibs being happy with Bogs defense? I don’t get the talk when Frenchy is on the bench.
We get Bogs and we are a more solid mid team who just got older, less athletic and lost more assets.

Where are we going?

Stop explaining reality in this thread no one wants to hear it


Knicks gave up a 146 points in an elimination game while scoring 122 pt and people are saying its the offense that is the problem

[DaGawd]

kftv mentioned lamelo as a possible target. i wouldn’t be mad at it

[robillionaire]

kftv mentioned lamelo as a possible target. i wouldn’t be mad at it

[HarthorneWingo]

I had a feeling this thread would be bumping today. lol

[HarthorneWingo]

What value does Sims have on this team anymore? I can't even remember his first name at this point. Jeremy?

[sol537]

Gonna continue to hold out hope for a Randle + IQ for Zion deal. Sooner or later, NOP front office is going to get tired of him not wanting to be there and we'd be his #1 preferred destination.

[ScienceOfLosing]

Gonna continue to hold out hope for a Randle + IQ for Zion deal. Sooner or later, NOP front office is going to get tired of him not wanting to be there and we'd be his #1 preferred destination.

They wait much longer and he will be full on waddling up the court with that weight.

[nykballa2k4]

kftv mentioned lamelo as a possible target. i wouldn’t be mad at it

If LaMelo is a target, so is my left nut.

[nykballa2k4]

Could see something like us giving them their pick back plus wiz pick in the exchange. But Thibs wouldn't use Bogs so idk.. more likely we use that package to get Burks lol

Could you imagine Thibs being happy with Bogs defense? I don’t get the talk when Frenchy is on the bench.
We get Bogs and we are a more solid mid team who just got older, less athletic and lost more assets.

Where are we going?

Stop explaining reality in this thread no one wants to hear it


Knicks gave up a 146 points in an elimination game while scoring 122 pt and people are saying its the offense that is the problem

I don't mind adding shooting, or a versatile offensive option. I just know Thibs defense scheme relies on everyone being frantic on that end of the court which a 34 year old Bogs certainly cannot do. Just a way to waste assets and land another "bad contract" per trade board.

[DaGawd]

kftv mentioned lamelo as a possible target. i wouldn’t be mad at it

If LaMelo is a target, so is my left nut.

i could see it honestly.. the hornets are a constant mess. but his overall larger point was there will probably be a name out of left field that we aren’t talking about

[8516knicks]

kftv mentioned lamelo as a possible target. i wouldn’t be mad at it

If LaMelo is a target, so is my left nut.

i could see it honestly.. the hornets are a constant mess. but his overall larger point was there will probably be a name out of left field that we aren’t talking about

Jokic. We can dream, can't we?

[HarthorneWingo]

We're not going to be making a blockbuster trade at or before the deadline. Maybe at the draft. The most I can see us doing is picking up some bench help.