[Camelo Thread Part 16] - Denver wants what?! p58

[Knicker23]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6112109

FWIW, Ric Bucher says Melo will be Knick. Also said Denver is asking for Mozgov, Fields, Gallo, Chandler & picks LOL.

Pretty sure he was saying that in jest to describe the 'kitchen sink' that Denver is asking for... there's no way they're realistically asking for every single player we have

That's the type of deal even I wouldn't pull for Melo, out of principle

[johnnywishbone]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6112109

FWIW, Ric Bucher says Melo will be Knick. Also said Denver is asking for Mozgov, Fields, Gallo, Chandler & picks LOL.

shouldve done the deal when 2 out of the 3 wouldve gotten it done

These guys are the masters of moving the field goal posts. I'm starting to get why Prokhorov told them to GTFO.

[Dr. Detfink]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6112109

FWIW, Ric Bucher says Melo will be Knick. Also said Denver is asking for Mozgov, Fields, Gallo, Chandler & picks LOL.

Minus Gallo, DEAL. Denver will cave.

[johnnywishbone]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6112109

FWIW, Ric Bucher says Melo will be Knick. Also said Denver is asking for Mozgov, Fields, Gallo, Chandler & picks LOL.

Minus Gallo, DEAL. Denver will cave.

I'm starting to wonder if their strategy is to keep asking for more until the other team gets so frustrated they say FU. Then they go back to Melo and say "look we tried but nobody wanted you bad enough, but you can still sign this".

[BombSquad]

IDK if this has been mentioned before but Galinari, Chandler,Curry Randolf/picks is fair, would probably close the deal and actually works for us.The two positions Galinari can realistically play would be held by two allstars. He is perfect for the small forward but way flawed for the power forward (we can't have two sub par rebounding power forwards. Oakley would put a bullet in his head then proceed to turn in his grave) Also consider this... People talk about CP3 in 2012 that would make Galinari as expendable then as Chandler is now. By shedding the contracts of Randolf and Galinari and gaining a second all star we continue to put ourselves in great talent/financial position for the forseeable future. Of course there are no guarantees but a lineup of:
Moz /Turriaf
Stat / Williams
Camelo
Fields / Walker
Felton / Douglas
Would be strong and Dangerous in the playoffs, not to mention fun to watch. While maintaining solid cap and exception( assuming exceptions still exist in the new CBA) flexibility we can add major fire power over the summer in terms of one year contracts to older vets like Redd, Nazi or Kurt Thomas while putting ourselves in position to go after bigger fishes in 2012 like Howard, Deron or CP3. We are in position to build for the future as well as the present.

[Knicks_Fan2]

Note the Nuggets have three straight tough road games and then memphis at home before the deadline (I think they play Boston the day of the deadline). I nice losing streak is possible.

[Dr. Detfink]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6112109

FWIW, Ric Bucher says Melo will be Knick. Also said Denver is asking for Mozgov, Fields, Gallo, Chandler & picks LOL.

Minus Gallo, DEAL. Denver will cave.

I'm starting to wonder if their strategy is to keep asking for more until the other team gets so frustrated they say FU. Then they go back to Melo and say "look we tried but nobody wanted you bad enough, but you can still sign this".

Hey Melo ain't helping by scoring 40+ points and having an astronomical week. Timing is every thing. It's VERY clear Melo is MAD at Donnie and will re-sign with Denver.

[Jitpal]

Ujiri is going to have a very short career if he keeps operating like this. You can't just get close to a deal and then back out saying it's not enough every time. Not only will it prevent Denver from getting deals done but it will hurt his relationships with other GMs, which is vital to surviving for a long time like Donnie has. I still think this deal gets done, but I think it will happen when things go above Ujiri's head. -Jitpal

[defjux21]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6112109

FWIW, Ric Bucher says Melo will be Knick. Also said Denver is asking for Mozgov, Fields, Gallo, Chandler & picks LOL.

Minus Gallo, DEAL. Denver will cave.

I'm starting to wonder if their strategy is to keep asking for more until the other team gets so frustrated they say FU. Then they go back to Melo and say "look we tried but nobody wanted you bad enough, but you can still sign this".

I agree with this thinking, and it's what I've been saying for a while. If you're Ujiri, voluntarily trading away your soon-to-be free potential free agent superstar player is career suicide. He was already fooled once by Bosh - it would be hard to fleece him again. He'd go down as the worst GM in NBA history next to Layden and Isiah. You know that Melo cares a lot about the money (the reason why he opted for a 5 year deal in 2006 as opposed to a 4 year deal that the 3 Queen s opted for), so you try to use that as your primary leverage. Now the objective becomes to retain that player no matter what it takes. That would explain why we've seen the rampant trade rumors of all these other teams, and would also entail coming up with those crazy trade offers.

As crazy as it sounds, perhaps the only way to make Denver succumb to a trade is if Kroenke gives in. This could explain Dolan's increased involvement. So I think Donnie, MW, and Dolan are focusing more on convincing Kroenke rather than dealing with Ujiri, since otherwise they'll go through what Billy King and Prok went through.

[Clyde_Style]

Right now Fields is one of our best rebounders, which is a main reason I don't want to lose him. He's always right in place for a board or a put back. Who's gonna do that if Fields is gone??

Melo will bring down the same boards as Landry, and anybody over 4'9 can make up for Gallos lack of rebounding.

You just jinxed us with a backcourt of TD and Snooky next year.

[aggo]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6112109

FWIW, Ric Bucher says Melo will be Knick. Also said Denver is asking for Mozgov, Fields, Gallo, Chandler & picks LOL.

shouldve done the deal when 2 out of the 3 wouldve gotten it done

there was never a deal to be made for 2 of 3

complete speculation and logical deduction by everyone that 2 of 3 would get it done.

donnie offered them (through minn) chandler, first, ar etc etc

they countered, apparently with asking for our entire team.

[johnnywishbone]

Hey Melo ain't helping by scoring 40+ points and having an astronomical week. Timing is every thing. It's VERY clear Melo is MAD at Donnie and will re-sign with Denver.

I think there is something to what you say. I was wondering if the "it's out of my hands" comment was directed at Donnie Walsh.

[Iron Mantis]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6112109

FWIW, Ric Bucher says Melo will be Knick. Also said Denver is asking for Mozgov, Fields, Gallo, Chandler & picks LOL.

Denver gets raped in this deal. Throw in Amar'e for a couple of bad contracts, and I may consider doing this deal.

[Jmonty580]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6112109

FWIW, Ric Bucher says Melo will be Knick. Also said Denver is asking for Mozgov, Fields, Gallo, Chandler & picks LOL.

Denver gets raped in this deal. Throw in Amar'e for a couple of bad contracts, and I may consider doing this deal.

He mentions a frachise tag making a difference or helping Denver to keep Melo. How does that work if he is already a free agent?

[JCity723NYK]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6112109

FWIW, Ric Bucher says Melo will be Knick. Also said Denver is asking for Mozgov, Fields, Gallo, Chandler & picks LOL.

Wow..... it's times like this when we should really be grateful Isiah Thomas is no longer the GM......

[Knick4Real]

Hey Melo ain't helping by scoring 40+ points and having an astronomical week. Timing is every thing. It's VERY clear Melo is MAD at Donnie and will re-sign with Denver.

I think there is something to what you say. I was wondering if the "it's out of my hands" comment was directed at Donnie Walsh.

I hope that's not true. But if Melo is mad at Donnie for not gutting the team, handing Denver our entire starting line up, effectively making us the NJ Nets, then F him. We still have to put building a franchise FIRST over the personal needs of one man.

[Clyde_Style]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6112109

FWIW, Ric Bucher says Melo will be Knick. Also said Denver is asking for Mozgov, Fields, Gallo, Chandler & picks LOL.

Denver gets raped in this deal. Throw in Amar'e for a couple of bad contracts, and I may consider doing this deal.

Dont' be cheap. Melo is good enough to win a ring by himself. Let's clear the decks and trade the whole team for Melo.

If nobody else is getting touches, then Melo can average 100 FGA and 20 FTA per game. Factor in the three pointers and he should be able to outscore all of the other teams.

With the green light from MD its bombs away.

And its a great plan for coach since he won't have to bother anymore with annoying crap like matchups, rotations and substitutions.

This is a no brainer.

[johnnywishbone]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6112109

FWIW, Ric Bucher says Melo will be Knick. Also said Denver is asking for Mozgov, Fields, Gallo, Chandler & picks LOL.

Wow..... it's times like this when we should really be grateful Isiah Thomas is no longer the GM......

Don't worry Dolan still owns the team.

[god shammgod]

Right now Fields is one of our best rebounders, which is a main reason I don't want to lose him. He's always right in place for a board or a put back. Who's gonna do that if Fields is gone??

Melo will bring down the same boards as Landry, and anybody over 4'9 can make up for Gallos lack of rebounding.

You just jinxed us with a backcourt of TD and Snooky next year.

i don't think she could hit the 3 but snooky got enough girth to post dudes up

[johnnywishbone]

i don't think she could hit the 3 but snooky got enough girth to post dudes up

I heard she is pretty good around the rim.