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Rose found not liable: Update pg. 62

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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#861 » by CJackson » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:52 pm

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I just read the whole statement. That was what Rose needed. I cannot see how she can win a judgment against him with that testimony.


I agree, but looking at Doe's toxicologist witness' report, it seems that if she drank a lot, either by her own will or by Rose and his friends, her testimony could have holes in it.

Not 100% (at least I hope not), but it's possible.


I'm not sure what you're saying about the drinking, because her testimony covers multiple time frames and the key point was her asking the plaintiff point blank "did you do it?"

She answered "No"

That is post-event and a sober, clear admission of intent to lie which has nothing to do with how drunk they got during their earlier parties.

The plaintiff when sober said they did not do it.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#862 » by Paija » Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:54 pm

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Seems if the jury is going to side with Doe, the masseuse testimony would hurt Rose's lawyers.



Women also judge other women harsher than men do, so it could go both ways.

I'd still prefer a different jury demographic for Rose, though.


I would venture a guess that a jury constisting of proper latin grandmothers would be much more critical of Jane Doe than jury consisting of young black males, but maybe those are just my stereotypes.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#863 » by Drun53 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:17 pm

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I just read the whole statement. That was what Rose needed. I cannot see how she can win a judgment against him with that testimony.


I agree, but looking at Doe's toxicologist witness' report, it seems that if she drank a lot, either by her own will or by Rose and his friends, her testimony could have holes in it.

Not 100% (at least I hope not), but it's possible.


I'm not sure what you're saying about the drinking, because her testimony covers multiple time frames and the key point was her asking the plaintiff point blank "did you do it?"

She answered "No"

That is post-event and a sober, clear admission of intent to lie which has nothing to do with how drunk they got during their earlier parties.

The plaintiff when sober said they did not do it.



I agree. But some will say that the plaintiff told the truth to her witnesses the next morning, but then lied to the other woman about there being no rape since they weren't close enough for her to reveal what really happened that night. It can be spun both ways, unfortunately, which is why I'm still quite nervous about the outcome of this trial.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#864 » by CJackson » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:20 pm

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I agree, but looking at Doe's toxicologist witness' report, it seems that if she drank a lot, either by her own will or by Rose and his friends, her testimony could have holes in it.

Not 100% (at least I hope not), but it's possible.


I'm not sure what you're saying about the drinking, because her testimony covers multiple time frames and the key point was her asking the plaintiff point blank "did you do it?"

She answered "No"

That is post-event and a sober, clear admission of intent to lie which has nothing to do with how drunk they got during their earlier parties.

The plaintiff when sober said they did not do it.



I agree. But some will say that the plaintiff told the truth to her witnesses the next morning, but then lied to the other woman about there being no rape since they weren't close enough for her to reveal what really happened that night. It can be spun both ways, unfortunately, which is why I'm still quite nervous about the outcome of this trial.


Read it again.

She said NO, they did not rape me.

THEN,

A month later she told the witness she was going to sue and she expected to get paid.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#865 » by Drun53 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:27 pm

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I'm not sure what you're saying about the drinking, because her testimony covers multiple time frames and the key point was her asking the plaintiff point blank "did you do it?"

She answered "No"

That is post-event and a sober, clear admission of intent to lie which has nothing to do with how drunk they got during their earlier parties.

The plaintiff when sober said they did not do it.



I agree. But some will say that the plaintiff told the truth to her witnesses the next morning, but then lied to the other woman about there being no rape since they weren't close enough for her to reveal what really happened that night. It can be spun both ways, unfortunately, which is why I'm still quite nervous about the outcome of this trial.


Read it again.

She said NO, they did not rape me.

THEN,

A month later she told the witness she was going to sue and she expected to get paid.



But her two witnesses testified that she told them the morning after that she got raped.

Though of course, this could line up with Rose's view that this was a setup from the beginning, since in order to make a setup, you have to tell confidants that you were raped soon thereafter to make yourself more believable.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#866 » by trophywinner » Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:41 pm

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I agree, but looking at Doe's toxicologist witness' report, it seems that if she drank a lot, either by her own will or by Rose and his friends, her testimony could have holes in it.

Not 100% (at least I hope not), but it's possible.


I'm not sure what you're saying about the drinking, because her testimony covers multiple time frames and the key point was her asking the plaintiff point blank "did you do it?"

She answered "No"

That is post-event and a sober, clear admission of intent to lie which has nothing to do with how drunk they got during their earlier parties.

The plaintiff when sober said they did not do it.



I agree. But some will say that the plaintiff told the truth to her witnesses the next morning, but then lied to the other woman about there being no rape since they weren't close enough for her to reveal what really happened that night. It can be spun both ways, unfortunately, which is why I'm still quite nervous about the outcome of this trial.


they were close enough to where doe had asked her to go to chicago w her to see rose earlier that year.
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Post#867 » by JXL » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:17 pm

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Post#868 » by HEZI » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:23 pm

Ok they need to end this circus now and bring our boy back home to his basketball family
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Post#869 » by iLLSonChandla » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:28 pm

I'm so sick of this case already can they wrap it up
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Post#870 » by Kampuchea » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:30 pm

SMAC-K wrote:Ok they need to end this circus now and bring our boy back home to his basketball family


He's not my boy. Even if not a rapist, he's still a lowlife deviant and a moron.
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Post#871 » by Appleshampoo » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:38 pm

I can't find this info anywhere. When is the jury scheduled to decide?
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Post#872 » by AllanHoustonFan » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:39 pm

This case has become an absolute joke. The real losers here are us, the taxpayers.
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Post#873 » by AllanHoustonFan » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:39 pm

Appleshampoo wrote:I can't find this info anywhere. When is the jury scheduled to decide?

Some time next week.
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Post#874 » by HEZI » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:57 pm

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He's not my boy. Even if not a rapist, he's still a lowlife deviant and a moron.



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Post#875 » by Flopper » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:04 pm

Coverage on the defense's presentation seems pretty light compared the flurry of tweets we saw this morning for the plaintiff's last witness. At least we know what sells newspapers and generates clicks.
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Post#876 » by Kampuchea » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:07 pm

You, Rose and Trump can enjoy all your MMMMF action and crotch grabbing. Sorry homes, I ain't with it. OK, OK, OK, OK? Now piss off.
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Post#877 » by slacker55 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:12 pm

Kampuchea wrote:You, Rose and Trump can enjoy all your MMMMF action and crotch grabbing. Sorry homes, I ain't with it. OK, OK, OK, OK? Now piss off.



I agree with you that what Rose did was disgusting and that he says a lot of dumb things.

But he doesn't deserve to be compared to Trump...
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#879 » by Kampuchea » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:19 pm

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Kampuchea wrote:You, Rose and Trump can enjoy all your MMMMF action and crotch grabbing. Sorry homes, I ain't with it. OK, OK, OK, OK? Now piss off.



I agree with you that what Rose did was disgusting and that he says a lot of dumb things.

But he doesn't deserve to be compared to Trump...


I'm not sure, both objectify the fairer sex. I am not aware of Trump being in group sex scenarios and being the last aboard the train.

Could you imagine if this news came out about Trump?

Regardless, both of them can burn.
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Post#880 » by man_listen » Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:46 pm

Flopper wrote:Coverage on the defense's presentation seems pretty light compared the flurry of tweets we saw this morning for the plaintiff's last witness. At least we know what sells newspapers and generates clicks.


This. Coverage on the case as a whole has been dwindling the past few days now that it seems likely that she was lying. I still haven't seen any news re: the missing texts ('why you have me bring a bitch..') which was supposed to be presented yesterday and that was considered the most probative text in the case.

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