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College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!!

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Who do you take at 5???

Garland
27
33%
Reddish
22
27%
Clarke
3
4%
Hunter
13
16%
Hayes
0
No votes
Coby
1
1%
Rui
3
4%
Romeo
2
2%
Bol
5
6%
Other
6
7%
 
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Re: College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!! 

Post#861 » by awy » Thu May 2, 2019 8:16 pm

Greenie wrote:
awy wrote:if the 2 stars are kd and kyrie you dont want someone else taking the shots, it will be worse. just get spacers and defenders and screeners etc.

You need more than two stars. Look around at the top teams.

Hell, remove KD from GS and they STILL hold 3 before you hit ELITE(AKA WELL PAID) role players.

You guys aren’t paying attention.

You need AT LEAST 3 All-Star type players to make some noise.

Warriors: Curry/Durant/Thompson/Green
Houston: Harden/Paul/Capela
Toronto: Kawhi/Siakam/Lowry-Ibaka-Gasol
Philly: Embiid/Simmons/Butler-Harris
Boston: Irving/Horford/Hayward/Tatum-Brown
Bucks: Giannis/Bleadsoe/Middleton/Brogdon-Lopez
Denver: Jokic/Murray/Harris/Milsap-Barton
Blazers: Lillard/McCollum/Nuric/Aminu-Harkless-Kanter


These teams are loaded. Not with 2 stars and a bunch MLE players either.


Lance Thomas makes MLE money.

klay and green are the definition of star level role players.

you are out here saying role player profiles cant be star impact guys? that’s wrong. look at your own list how many of these guys were drafted to be a first option?
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Post#862 » by thebuzzardman » Thu May 2, 2019 9:07 pm

I don't know why Greenie is mad. She thinks every young player on the Knicks suck, so they are 5 drafts away from being anything, anyway, by her calculation.
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Post#863 » by Greenie » Thu May 2, 2019 10:06 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:I don't know why Greenie is mad. She thinks every young player on the Knicks suck, so they are 5 drafts away from being anything, anyway, by her calculation.

Get your facts straight.

I love Mitch and like Smith.

The rest of them are bums.

You guys are simply delusional and trying to sell it.
Look at that list again. 2 stars and a 3rd good player? That’s delusional behavior. I’m literally listening 4, 5 and 6 players and didn’t even really bother to list solid roll players these teams have.

Just take Boston for instance:

Irving
Tatum
Horford
Hayward
Brown

—————

Smart
Morris
Theis
Rozier


THAT’S 9 and they have Bird Rights on all these mofo’s. That’s their ENTIRE ROTATION.



Wanna try another team if you don’t believe me?

Philadelphia:

Embiid
Simmons
Butler
Harris

——————

Reddick
TJ McConnell
Bolden
Boban


Knicks:

KD
Kyrie
Mitch

————————
Smith

Y’all have to see this. It’s perplexing as fuq how you guys don’t.
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Re: College/Draft #6 - NCAA Finals + Draft Leadup W/ Knicks In The Top Seed!!! 

Post#864 » by Besart19 » Thu May 2, 2019 11:28 pm

Greenie wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:I don't know why Greenie is mad. She thinks every young player on the Knicks suck, so they are 5 drafts away from being anything, anyway, by her calculation.

Get your facts straight.

I love Mitch and like Smith.

The rest of them are bums.

You guys are simply delusional and trying to sell it.
Look at that list again. 2 stars and a 3rd good player? That’s delusional behavior. I’m literally listening 4, 5 and 6 players and didn’t even really bother to list solid roll players these teams have.

Just take Boston for instance:

Irving
Tatum
Horford
Hayward
Brown

—————

Smart
Morris
Theis
Rozier


THAT’S 9 and they have Bird Rights on all these mofo’s. That’s their ENTIRE ROTATION.



Wanna try another team if you don’t believe me?

Philadelphia:

Embiid
Simmons
Butler
Harris

——————

Reddick
TJ McConnell
Bolden
Boban


Knicks:

KD
Kyrie
Mitch

————————
Smith

Y’all have to see this. It’s perplexing as fuq how you guys don’t.


Cleveland had only Lebron, Irving and Love to start of... unless you thing Dellavedova, Tristan and who else they had was a talent to rely upon!

But, when you get those kind of mofos, the easier part is to fill the roster with crafty vets and buyout candidates
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Post#865 » by thebuzzardman » Thu May 2, 2019 11:28 pm

Greenie wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:I don't know why Greenie is mad. She thinks every young player on the Knicks suck, so they are 5 drafts away from being anything, anyway, by her calculation.

Get your facts straight.

I love Mitch and like Smith.

The rest of them are bums.

You guys are simply delusional and trying to sell it.
Look at that list again. 2 stars and a 3rd good player? That’s delusional behavior. I’m literally listening 4, 5 and 6 players and didn’t even really bother to list solid roll players these teams have.

Just take Boston for instance:

Irving
Tatum
Horford
Hayward
Brown

—————

Smart
Morris
Theis
Rozier


THAT’S 9 and they have Bird Rights on all these mofo’s. That’s their ENTIRE ROTATION.



Wanna try another team if you don’t believe me?

Philadelphia:

Embiid
Simmons
Butler
Harris

——————

Reddick
TJ McConnell
Bolden
Boban


Knicks:

KD
Kyrie
Mitch

————————
Smith

Y’all have to see this. It’s perplexing as fuq how you guys don’t.

So. The Knicks have two roles players and a pick. Ever think part of the reason I say the Knicks could get kid & kyrie and continue to build their young base for 4 years from now is this? I'm more interested in the sustained build and I think it can be done while signing free agents. You don't. Oh weell.
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Post#866 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu May 2, 2019 11:33 pm

It's zion or bust folks.

Anybody else is irrelevant,they will be traded for a 3rd star.

1.Zion
2.trade
3.trade
4.trade
5.trade
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Post#867 » by Greenie » Thu May 2, 2019 11:35 pm

Besart19 wrote:
Greenie wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:I don't know why Greenie is mad. She thinks every young player on the Knicks suck, so they are 5 drafts away from being anything, anyway, by her calculation.

Get your facts straight.

I love Mitch and like Smith.

The rest of them are bums.

You guys are simply delusional and trying to sell it.
Look at that list again. 2 stars and a 3rd good player? That’s delusional behavior. I’m literally listening 4, 5 and 6 players and didn’t even really bother to list solid roll players these teams have.

Just take Boston for instance:

Irving
Tatum
Horford
Hayward
Brown

—————

Smart
Morris
Theis
Rozier


THAT’S 9 and they have Bird Rights on all these mofo’s. That’s their ENTIRE ROTATION.



Wanna try another team if you don’t believe me?

Philadelphia:

Embiid
Simmons
Butler
Harris

——————

Reddick
TJ McConnell
Bolden
Boban


Knicks:

KD
Kyrie
Mitch

————————
Smith

Y’all have to see this. It’s perplexing as fuq how you guys don’t.


Cleveland had only Lebron, Irving and Love to start of... unless you thing Dellavedova, Tristan and who else they had was a talent to rely upon!

But, when you get those kind of mofos, the easier part is to fill the roster with crafty vets and buyout candidates



That’s still 3 stars...and wasn’t Irving still on his rookie deal? That’s HUGE.

Also, lets be real. Even though I hate the dude, LeBron, back then was better than a KD now.
KD is no ones PG. He’s a scorer first and foremost.

I would literally feel much different if at least one of Knox or Frank came out of the gate like a star.

...but they didn’t.
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Post#868 » by Greenie » Thu May 2, 2019 11:37 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:It's zion or bust folks.

Anybody else is irrelevant,they will be traded for a 3rd star.

1.Zion
2.trade
3.trade
4.trade
5.trade



Unfortunately Zion will be too.

Wiggins was hyped the same and got traded as soon as LeBron touched down.
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Post#869 » by Besart19 » Thu May 2, 2019 11:40 pm

Greenie wrote:
Besart19 wrote:
Greenie wrote:Get your facts straight.

I love Mitch and like Smith.

The rest of them are bums.

You guys are simply delusional and trying to sell it.
Look at that list again. 2 stars and a 3rd good player? That’s delusional behavior. I’m literally listening 4, 5 and 6 players and didn’t even really bother to list solid roll players these teams have.

Just take Boston for instance:

Irving
Tatum
Horford
Hayward
Brown

—————

Smart
Morris
Theis
Rozier


THAT’S 9 and they have Bird Rights on all these mofo’s. That’s their ENTIRE ROTATION.



Wanna try another team if you don’t believe me?

Philadelphia:

Embiid
Simmons
Butler
Harris

——————

Reddick
TJ McConnell
Bolden
Boban


Knicks:

KD
Kyrie
Mitch

————————
Smith

Y’all have to see this. It’s perplexing as fuq how you guys don’t.


Cleveland had only Lebron, Irving and Love to start of... unless you thing Dellavedova, Tristan and who else they had was a talent to rely upon!

But, when you get those kind of mofos, the easier part is to fill the roster with crafty vets and buyout candidates



That’s still 3 stars...and wasn’t Irving still on his rookie deal? That’s HUGE.

Also, lets be real. Even though I hate the dude, LeBron, back then was better than a KD now.
KD is no ones PG. He’s a scorer first and foremost.

I would literally feel much different if at least one of Knox or Frank came out of the gate like a star.

...but they didn’t.


Ntilikina
Thompson
Leonard
Williamson
Robinson

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Post#870 » by Greenie » Thu May 2, 2019 11:41 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Greenie wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:I don't know why Greenie is mad. She thinks every young player on the Knicks suck, so they are 5 drafts away from being anything, anyway, by her calculation.

Get your facts straight.

I love Mitch and like Smith.

The rest of them are bums.

You guys are simply delusional and trying to sell it.
Look at that list again. 2 stars and a 3rd good player? That’s delusional behavior. I’m literally listening 4, 5 and 6 players and didn’t even really bother to list solid roll players these teams have.

Just take Boston for instance:

Irving
Tatum
Horford
Hayward
Brown

—————

Smart
Morris
Theis
Rozier


THAT’S 9 and they have Bird Rights on all these mofo’s. That’s their ENTIRE ROTATION.



Wanna try another team if you don’t believe me?

Philadelphia:

Embiid
Simmons
Butler
Harris

——————

Reddick
TJ McConnell
Bolden
Boban


Knicks:

KD
Kyrie
Mitch

————————
Smith

Y’all have to see this. It’s perplexing as fuq how you guys don’t.

So. The Knicks have two roles players and a pick. Ever think part of the reason I say the Knicks could get kid & kyrie and continue to build their young base for 4 years from now is this? I'm more interested in the sustained build and I think it can be done while signing free agents. You don't. Oh weell.



You’re interested in playing the middle. You don’t do “sustained builds” when you star player is 31 and taking up 1/3 your cap and you’re literally starting from ground zero to build around him.

Not how that works.

The build you want works with young stars you control. You have time.
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Post#871 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu May 2, 2019 11:42 pm

Greenie wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:It's zion or bust folks.

Anybody else is irrelevant,they will be traded for a 3rd star.

1.Zion
2.trade
3.trade
4.trade
5.trade



Unfortunately Zion will be too.

Wiggins was hyped the same and got traded as soon as LeBron touched down.


Ehh maybe its debatable bit any one else will for sure be gone.
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Post#872 » by HEZI » Thu May 2, 2019 11:47 pm

Robinson, Dotson and Vonleh can be solid role players. Knox can be good too if he keeps progressing. Those guys would be better if in the right role next to two Superstars and I wanna emphasize superstars because just saying two stars is kinda vague. Kyrie and KD are as elite as it gets so its a little different than say a Kemba and Jimmy Butler combo.

There's no doubt the Knicks are a playoff team with Kyrie and KD but can they win a title with that supporting cast? Remains to be seen but most of the teams you listed Greenie are still trying to answer that question with what they got.
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Post#873 » by Greenie » Thu May 2, 2019 11:53 pm

Besart19 wrote:
Greenie wrote:
Besart19 wrote:
Cleveland had only Lebron, Irving and Love to start of... unless you thing Dellavedova, Tristan and who else they had was a talent to rely upon!

But, when you get those kind of mofos, the easier part is to fill the roster with crafty vets and buyout candidates



That’s still 3 stars...and wasn’t Irving still on his rookie deal? That’s HUGE.

Also, lets be real. Even though I hate the dude, LeBron, back then was better than a KD now.
KD is no ones PG. He’s a scorer first and foremost.

I would literally feel much different if at least one of Knox or Frank came out of the gate like a star.

...but they didn’t.


Ntilikina
Thompson
Leonard
Williamson
Robinson

Are you OK with the 99’s 2.0 Team?


Frank can’t start for any team being serious.

I love Kawhi and Klay. If they were to come together I would scorch earth for them. That means I’m getting them a 3rd star at all costs. They are ready to win NOW. People don’t even wanna do that to give KD some running mates.

Whoever
AD(age 26-26 when the new season starts)
Kawhi(27-28 when the new season starts)
Klay(29-29 when the new season starts)
Whoever


Now you can talk about adding cheapie players.
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Post#874 » by Greenie » Fri May 3, 2019 5:50 am

HEZI wrote:Robinson, Dotson and Vonleh can be solid role players. Knox can be good too if he keeps progressing. Those guys would be better if in the right role next to two Superstars and I wanna emphasize superstars because just saying two stars is kinda vague. Kyrie and KD are as elite as it gets so its a little different than say a Kemba and Jimmy Butler combo.

There's no doubt the Knicks are a playoff team with Kyrie and KD but can they win a title with that supporting cast? Remains to be seen but most of the teams you listed Greenie are still trying to answer that question with what they got.



You don’t own Vonleh’s bird rights.
You would have to use the MLE on him.

Mitch, Dotson and Zion would be the base of the Davis trade if anything.
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Post#875 » by Capn'O » Fri May 3, 2019 6:04 am

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Post#876 » by Tron Carter » Fri May 3, 2019 9:20 am

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Post#877 » by NYKHardKnock » Fri May 3, 2019 10:14 am

So weird I had a dream watching the live drawing of the lottery, we ended up fourth fyi
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Post#878 » by thebuzzardman » Fri May 3, 2019 12:00 pm

At least half the fanbase doesn't deserve Zion, so I'm good any which way.

Other than I hope they pick the most divisive player possible.

Which might make me a Bol Bol fan after all.
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Post#879 » by robillionaire » Fri May 3, 2019 12:23 pm

what does it take to "deserve" something as a sports fan, lol. I never understood the whole we deserve this we don't deserve that lingo
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Post#880 » by awy » Fri May 3, 2019 1:43 pm

you don't have to attach anything other than zion to get 1 year of anthony davis.

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