The Next Official All things Frank Ntilikina Thread

[iLLmatic860]

I broke up but fell right back in love with Frank

Dsj frank rj knox randle iggy mitch the foundation. The rest are just journey men

Ill keep morris and bp if its on a nice contract if they fit in with what we doing

That’s like 6 or 7 core guys if we got lucky with a few. That’s a lot compared to most teams.

Right. We are in great shape like the Hawks and Bulls. I cant believe some people really think the Knicks are a 20 win team.

Its crazy what the media can do to people’s perceptions lol

[GONYK]

I broke up but fell right back in love with Frank

Dsj frank rj knox randle iggy mitch the foundation. The rest are just journey men

Ill keep morris and bp if its on a nice contract if they fit in with what we doing

That’s like 6 or 7 core guys if we got lucky with a few. That’s a lot compared to most teams.

Right. We are in great shape like the Hawks and Bulls. I cant believe some people really think the Knicks are a 20 win team.

Its crazy what the media can do to people’s perceptions lol

Well, most people are predicting a 10-12 win improvement. That's pretty significant.

I'll have to see a commitment to defense from Fiz before more than that is realistic, IMO

[F N 11]

knicks gunna be crazy this year.

[iLLmatic860]

That’s like 6 or 7 core guys if we got lucky with a few. That’s a lot compared to most teams.

Right. We are in great shape like the Hawks and Bulls. I cant believe some people really think the Knicks are a 20 win team.

Its crazy what the media can do to people’s perceptions lol

Well, most people are predicting a 10-12 win improvement. That's pretty significant.

I'll have to see a commitment to defense from Fiz before more than that is realistic, IMO

Ive read season predictions from non Knicks fans. This 2 guys in particular had the Knicks as the 2nd worst team in the east with 20 wins. But yeah ive seen quite a few people have us 30+ wins

[br7knicks]

A lot of the positive talk is because Frank was pretty mucgh getting trashed. He is now playing well in some meangingful games and showing signs of progress so its fair that people are discussing it and liking what they see. Maybe it means he is getting better, or maybe not. Nothing really to get upset about though just cause there is some positive talk about Frank....especially when perimeter defense is such a huge need for us

and has been, for years.


we're going to run out of feet to shoot, if we get rid of players like frank

[HarthorneWingo]

that's when he got starter minutes, but he played all year.

Here's the thing, Mitch got starter minutes earl on. The team played better by most measures. He still went back to the bench because Enes Kanter was pouting too hard. Fizdale never did a damned thing that made me think defense was even in the equation for why players got minutes. This ain't even a defense of Frank, Fizdale promised us defense and didn't hold anyone accountable at all on that end.

Fizdale = Snake Oil Salesman

[HarthorneWingo]

Nice article on Frank’s performance in the Jordan game.

https://elitesportsny.com/2019/09/04/new-york-knicks-takeaways-from-frank-ntilikina-strong-showing/

Batum calls Frank “The future of French basketball.”

https://elitesportsny.com/2019/09/04/new-york-knicks-news-nicolas-batum-calls-frank-ntilikina-the-future-of-france/

[VECTORMAN]

To this day, it boggles me how much some people here haven't learned from this.

This behavior produces NO chance of winning; we've learned that the last 10 years.

Time to try defense and smart basketball, like the other successful teams

True. All the good teams defend. Much of our success from the 90's was from defense. We have been one of the worst defensive teams in the league the last few years.

If we want to get the most out of this roster it has to start on defense and Frank would need to be a part of that. There are def some rotations we can run out there that should be able to defend avg to good.

It just never seems like me make it a huge priority though.

unfortunately, defense and winning hasn't been much of a priority. not too many of the previous NBA champs were awful at defense.

it helps to have generational talent, but if you don't get one of them (some here still think all 13 guys need to be HOF players in their prime ), you build a culture of defense so a perennial all-star can be inserted. it's much tougher, as us knicks fans have learned, to have an all-star player and try to build around them.


but still...some people here refuse to learn from past mistakes, apparently...


i'm not saying you have to like frank. hell, i'm not really a fan. but i have basic basketball knowledge. enough to know you need guys like him to be successful

Nicely said. It's ridiculous to expect a 25 ppg scorer out of every draft pick. When you look at the rest of the talent on this team, people should be thrilled to have a prospect like Frank who we know will be a great defender and a willing and effective role player at his peak. That's the perfect compliment to guys like RJ and DSJ and Knox if any or all of them pan out. Figure in Randle who is going to get a lot of touches. Then add Mitch who looks to be a dominant defender in the paint. The tandem of Mitch and Frank brings balance and provides intangibles that a high-scoring lineup NEEDS to balance itself and compete on both ends.

Frank can be the guy diving for loose balls, igniting fast breaks with steals and deflections, locking up the other team's best player down the stretch, and hitting the open 3 when he gets looks. He's also pretty adept as a passer in the pick and roll, which is why I love the idea of him and Mitch getting a lot of minutes together. He'll be a fan favorite in no time with that type of game.

[thebuzzardman]

I don't think Frank is part of that mix for this administration, but I've been saying since last year the Knicks have been auditioning their bench/role players.

RJ is the one guy who might be that "star" level player. Everyone else is being assessed as a complimentary piece.

[br7knicks]

I don't think Frank is part of that mix for this administration, but I've been saying since last year the Knicks have been auditioning their bench/role players.

RJ is the one guy who might be that "star" level player. Everyone else is being assessed as a complimentary piece.

i actually think you're right.


i, unfortunately, don't think frank is going to stick around in the NBA too long.


defense is not an emphasis in the NBA, and it's all about being able to score. the best teams are defensive, but guys that stick around are the ones who can score the **** out of the ball.


i think frank is going to end up heading back to france where he can take over. i think if he goes back to europe, he'll end up being like a billups - a quiet, defense first, leader of a championship team.

[Sark]

The best Knick in FIBA 2019.

[robillionaire]

ok let's go

[robillionaire]

Frank already hit a three OOOOooooOOOooo

[MadGrinch]

I just want to see a DSJR and Frank backcourt for a few games. Have frank guard the PG position while DSJR run the offense.

In my head it works perfectly as long as frank is hitting his shots.

Ive always felt that Frank was only suited for a guard role with a dominant ball handler / play maker next to him

that doesn't have to be another guard as we saw with Kobe and MJ in the triangle or LBJ in whatever he tells his coaches to call his offense

Frank would do great in Houston

obviously he needs to hit shots though no matter where that happens


but if DSJ and RJ are taking the ball down the defenses throats then Frank can play D and spot up, as he better be ready to do this year

This actually one of the big reasons I think Frank will start this season ...ultimately Fizdale is going to coach to his principles and he’ll have to do it in a way that makes Perry and Mills happy .

Frank is best suited to ease RJ’s transition to the nba because he can be useful while allowing RJ to do what he does best(dominate the ball) while protecting him on defense . And at the end of it all RJ’s success is more important because he can be a max player whom the team uses as its offensive star. Also Fizdale has let it be known he’d rather coach a big defensive team .

Smith jr doesn’t fit that at all defensively and he had issues playing off the ball with Luka offensively. It’s hard for me to see it differently with Barrett.

[god shammgod]

I just want to see a DSJR and Frank backcourt for a few games. Have frank guard the PG position while DSJR run the offense.

In my head it works perfectly as long as frank is hitting his shots.

Ive always felt that Frank was only suited for a guard role with a dominant ball handler / play maker next to him

that doesn't have to be another guard as we saw with Kobe and MJ in the triangle or LBJ in whatever he tells his coaches to call his offense

Frank would do great in Houston

obviously he needs to hit shots though no matter where that happens


but if DSJ and RJ are taking the ball down the defenses throats then Frank can play D and spot up, as he better be ready to do this year

This actually one of the big reasons I think Frank will start this season ...ultimately Fizdale is going to coach to his principles and he’ll have to do it in a way that makes Perry and Mills happy .

Frank is best suited to ease RJ’s transition to the nba because he can be useful while allowing RJ to do what he does best(dominate the ball) while protecting him on defense . And at the end of it all RJ’s success is more important because he can be a max player whom the team uses as its offensive star. Also Fizdale has let it be known he’d rather coach a big defensive team .

Smith jr doesn’t fit that at all defensively and he had issues playing off the ball with Luka offensively. It’s hard for me to see it differently with Barrett.

there's zero chance of that

[robillionaire]

frank had a few really bad turnovers in the 1st half, ones that would have him nailed to the bench if he did them here

[MaseInYourFace]

How is this Frank Ntilikina biopic shaping up?

[robillionaire]

Frank benched for the 2nd half again. Uh oh.

[GONYK]

8 points (40% from 3)
4 assists
2 rebounds
25 minutes (led the team)
+26

Another solid game from Frank

[remi_222]

Great 4th quarter for Frank where he was aggressive, provoking fouls, not refusing the physical challenge ! Thats the Frank we want to see, and more important after each missed shot by Frank the whole bench stood up and claped him for the effort and it was always a good shot in the rythm ! that's the biggest diff with Knicks bench.
He's the one who played the most tonight (25min), another proof that he's being consistent