[Pre-Season] Wizards @ Knicks - 10/17/10 6:00 PM EST

[NBAonNBC]

when will the excuses end for Gallo

[Bigmo5246]

Gallo def is a concern.

One thing to note tho is he dropped 8/4 on 30% shooting last pre season, only to put up 22 opening night, 30 in his 3rd game.

But right now I dont like what I see. At least he attempted to drive, post up, and work the mid range today even if he didnt hit a damn thang. He just hasnt put it all together in one game yet.

Chandler looked like dog poop until his last few shots. Today it was all Dougie, Amare, and Mogov.

Might want to include Felton in there. He had a real solid game and ran this team well tonight

[Rooster8]

Gallo did the same thing last preseason. On the bright side the Knicks won without hime making a single shot, and he grabbed 5 rebs in 21 minutes. Eventually he's gonna find his rhythm. Idk if he hasn't gotten his sleep schedule straight since coming back from Europe or what, but I have confidence that he'll fix it.

[Fury]

He did fine just didn't hit shots. I can't believe people take preseason this seriously.

[Falstaffxx]

when will the excuses end for Gallo

He doesn't really need them. It's the preseason. There are preseason games for a reason.

[moocow007]

Missed the game, hopefully they'll have it on again.

[blueNorange]

when will the excuses end for Gallo

you won't be here to witness it, no worries on your side brochacho

[KnicksScholar24]

Good win. Big scoring game for Toney Douglas, although it took 17 FGA. Anyway, it's good to see he bounced back from his 0-7 game. Chandler, Gallinari, and Randolph played mediocre. The Knicks NEED consistency from these three young players, even if it's a consistent 10 PPG. No 15 and then 5 point games. Chandler needs to take it all the way to the basket and get some contract. Forget the stupid floater/runners from 10-15 out. That's not a shot he's going to hit consistently. He also shot too many 3-pointers. Slashing (all the way to the hoop), backdoor cuts, transition hoops, and mid-range off the dribble is his bread and butter. Stick to that and he'll be efficient and effective consistently. Gallinari and Randolph need to hit the weight room and develop their game inside 15 feet. They shoot too many shots outside of 18 feet. What's the use of being 6'11" and being almost completely ineffective inside 15 feet? Nice work on the boards by Gallinari early in the game. Amar'e too. I haven't looked at the box score yet so I don't know who else did a good job on the board.

Movgoz didn't get in foul trouble, caught several alley-oops, and protected the paint. Good game. I definitely would like to see Amar'e get some easier baskets. He's going one-on-one, off-the-dribble way too much. I still don't think Felton is running the pick-and-roll enough, nor is he taking advantage or exploiting the fact that he player with an athletic finisher like Stoudemire. They were a lot better on the defensive glass this game. I like to see Randolph, Fields, and Douglas on the second unit. Ronny played tough and challenged shots. I would still rather see Turiaf start a C, and moving Mozgov to the second unit, which would make that unit even more potent. Putting Turiaf in the starting 5 also ensures the offense is going through Amar'e, Chandler, and Gallinari and Mozgov could provide some offensive consistency to the second unit. Mason's shooting is still off, and I wonder why Walker isn't playing. I saw him in a suit, but I didn't hear about him being injured.

[janquinn]

Good win. Big scoring game for Toney Douglas, although it took 17 FGA. Anyway, it's good to see he bounced back from his 0-7 game. Chandler, Gallinari, and Randolph played mediocre. The Knicks NEED consistency from these three young players, even if it's a consistent 10 PPG. No 15 and then 5 point games. Chandler needs to take it all the way to the basket and get some contract. Forget the stupid floater/runners from 10-15 out. That's not a shot he's going to hit consistently. He also shot too many 3-pointers. Slashing (all the way to the hoop), backdoor cuts, transition hoops, and mid-range off the dribble is his bread and butter. Stick to that and he'll be efficient and effective consistently. Gallinari and Randolph need to hit the weight room and develop their game inside 15 feet. They shoot too many shots outside of 18 feet. What's the use of being 6'11" and being almost completely ineffective inside 15 feet? Nice work on the boards by Gallinari early in the game. Amar'e too. I haven't looked at the box score yet so I don't know who else did a good job on the board.

Movgoz didn't get in foul trouble, caught several alley-oops, and protected the paint. Good game. I definitely would like to see Amar'e get some easier baskets. He's going one-on-one, off-the-dribble way too much. I still don't think Felton is running the pick-and-roll enough, nor is he taking advantage or exploiting the fact that he player with an athletic finisher like Stoudemire. They were a lot better on the defensive glass this game. I like to see Randolph, Fields, and Douglas on the second unit. Ronny played tough and challenged shots. I would still rather see Turiaf start a C, and moving Mozgov to the second unit, which would make that unit even more potent. Putting Turiaf in the starting 5 also ensures the offense is going through Amar'e, Chandler, and Gallinari and Mozgov could provide some offensive consistency to the second unit. Mason's shooting is still off, and I wonder why Walker isn't playing. I saw him in a suit, but I didn't hear about him being injured.

Chandlers is shooting over 60% from three

[Knicker23]

Everyone knows it's preseason - but struggling is struggling..performing poorly is performing poorly..the fact that it isn't regular season has no relavance to whether a player is playing well or not / isn't an excuse... at the same time, Gallo for example, having off nights now won't matter so long as he works whatever kinks need to be worked out out before the season starts.

[Falstaffxx]

Everyone knows it's preseason - but struggling is struggling..performing poorly is performing poorly..the fact that it isn't regular season has no relavance to whether a player is playing well or not / isn't an excuse... at the same time, Gallo for example, having off nights now won't matter so long as he works whatever kinks need to be worked out out before the season starts.

If the fact that it's the preseason "doesn't have relevance" to way someone is playing and "performing poorly is performing poorly" then they wouldn't have preseason at all. They'd have training camp and then start the regular season immediately. Preseason exists for a reason - to prepare for the regular season. I'd of course prefer that everyone play great in the preseason, but struggling in the preseason really does not mean nearly as much as many seem to think it does.

[Knicker23]

Playing poorly can't be excused by saying 'it's what the preseason is for'. I agree that preseason is for finding your groove and getting in the rhythm of things, but if you're not playing well it doesn't make it any less of a problem in my book... just like the rebounding is an issue and can't be written off as 'preseason'...but i agree with you, it's better to struggle now than in the middle of the season, and i do think Gallo will find his groove.. but you have to call it what it is.

[Falstaffxx]

Playing poorly can't be excused by saying 'it's what the preseason is for'. I agree that preseason is for finding your groove and getting in the rhythm of things, but if you're not playing well it doesn't make it any less of a problem in my book... just like the rebounding is an issue and can't be written off as 'preseason'...but i agree with you, it's better to struggle now than in the middle of the season, and i do think Gallo will find his groove.. but you have to call it what it is.

The bolded text is ludicrous. Moving on:

Playing poorly in the preseason doesn't need to "be excused." It's not desirable for someone to play poorly in the preseason, but the preseason exists solely for the purpose of allowing preparation for the regular season. It's not at all rare for good players to play erratically in the preseason - or even for good players to have bad stretches in the regular season for that matter.

[Knicker23]

Right - so there's no such thing as playing poorly because it's preseason and preseason is meant for players to play poorly.. got it.

[Future Soldier]

no, playing poorly in the preseason means nothing once the regular season starts. Everyone here will forget about these games in two weeks. I swear Knick fans are the only ones who are overthinking these relatively meaningless games. The Lakers are about to lose to the Jazz on their homecourt and Kobe is on the bench laughing. If Kobe doesn't take preseason games THAT serious, then that should tell you something.

[Knicker23]

I agree that everything, whether you played well or poorly, will be wiped clean once the regular season starts... I do think there's something to be taken / worked on from the games though... be it a player not playing well or team stats etc.. it's not totally meaningless, but it is what it is, preseason.

[thegianttank]

I agree that everything, whether you played well or poorly, will be wiped clean once the regular season starts... I do think there's something to be taken / worked on from the games though... be it a player not playing well or team stats etc.. it's not totally meaningless, but it is what it is, preseason.

Exactly.. nothing in the preseason counts, they just need to take these games and use them to help them improve for the regular season.. I saw an interview with the few of the guys after the game and they definitely seem to know that..http://video.msg.com/Home/Knicks-Postga ... ards-10-17

[adjacent2bench]

no, playing poorly in the preseason means nothing once the regular season starts. Everyone here will forget about these games in two weeks. I swear Knick fans are the only ones who are overthinking these relatively meaningless games. The Lakers are about to lose to the Jazz on their homecourt and Kobe is on the bench laughing. If Kobe doesn't take preseason games THAT serious, then that should tell you something.

I agree that preseason is meaningless, but the Lakers are proven winners. They really don't need this preseason. It's basically a given that this team will make at the very least the Western Conference Finals, where as it's not a given that this team might even sniff the playoffs.

[seren]

Well, the rebounding problem is still there and it needs to be addressed.