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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#901 » by spree8 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:13 pm

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I turned it off when he said a neutral front office would have given the picks with no protections. We're not in the position to be trading unprotected picks, let alone ones that far out, only people who want to be mad about something are upset we didn't do that.


If we keep trading back and out of drafts and won't ante up for a 25 yr old all star ascending player at an area of biggest need we have no hope. All we did was take care and prioritize a CAA family member. For the record Murray to me is twice as attractive as DMitch even.



Twice is a stretch, but if there’s no Jalen Brunson, and it’s between Mitchell at the 2 or Murray at the 1… I might go Murray too. Just didn’t make sense having him next to Brunson at all.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#902 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:14 pm

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I turned it off when he said a neutral front office would have given the picks with no protections. We're not in the position to be trading unprotected picks, let alone ones that far out, only people who want to be mad about something are upset we didn't do that.


If we keep trading back and out of drafts and won't ante up for a 25 yr old all star ascending player at an area of biggest need we have no hope. All we did was take care and prioritize a CAA family member. For the record Murray to me is twice as attractive as DMitch even.




We're not in a position to trade unprotected picks, the 2025 draft isn't even that far off. DeJounte Murray isn't good enough or a big enough difference maker for us to trade a package like that for, the Hawks already have their number 1 guy, we're still in search of ours.

People who wanted Murray just got caught up in the FOMO of trade/free agency, we potentially have our guy in Brunson, who will most likely be a 20ppg scorer with increased usage, and most importantly he has proven he can play off ball dominant players. Murray is one of the most ball dominant players in the league, he can't shoot off the ball and you're trying to add that to a team that has two other players that need the ball. It's not a smart move at all, less if you know the history of teams trading future picks like that, example, Tatum and Brown were Nets picks.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#903 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:15 pm

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dukeknicksirish wrote:How worried would you be for a defense started by 6’1 Brunson & 6’1 Mitchell ? Or is the defensive concern overrated

Very.. they’d be exploited every night


They dont have to play all 33-34 minutes together. In fact they could be paired only 20 minutes give or take depending on match ups. Also Mitchell can be a good perimeter defender and has a 6'10 wingspan.

If we came away with Mitchell R/Hartenstein (better stretch 5) at 5, Randle/Obi at 4, RJ and maybe Grimes at 3, Mitchell/IQ/RJ at 2, Brunson/IQ/McBride at 1

That would be a very very improved team over last years.
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#904 » by spree8 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:15 pm

dukeknicksirish wrote:Prediction:

- We sign Brunson
- We sign a backup big
- We make a trade at the deadline for a playoff push
- We win play in game and advance



-Get embarrassed in the 1st round by a real playoff team
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#905 » by Capn'O » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:15 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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I turned it off when he said a neutral front office would have given the picks with no protections. We're not in the position to be trading unprotected picks, let alone ones that far out, only people who want to be mad about something are upset we didn't do that.


If we keep trading back and out of drafts and won't ante up for a 25 yr old all star ascending player at an area of biggest need we have no hope. All we did was take care and prioritize a CAA family member. For the record Murray to me is twice as attractive as DMitch even.




We're not in a position to trade unprotected picks, the 2025 draft isn't even that far off. DeJounte Murray isn't good enough or a big enough difference maker for us to trade a package like that for, the Hawks already have their number 1 guy, we're still in search of ours.

People who wanted Murray just got caught up in the FOMO of trade/free agency, we potentially have our guy in Brunson, who will most likely be a 20ppg scorer with increased usage, and most importantly he has proven he can play off ball dominant players. Murray is one of the most ball dominant players in the league, he can't shoot off the ball and you're trying to add that to a team that has two other players that need the ball. It's not a smart move at all, less if you know the history of teams trading future picks like that, example, Tatum and Brown were Nets picks.


You don't even need to look beyond our own history. Aldridge, Noah, Hayward, etc.
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Post#906 » by F N 11 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:16 pm



Knicks turned down 18 and Brunson for 8. Mavs wanted Haliburton apparently.

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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#907 » by DaGawd » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:17 pm

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dukeknicksirish wrote:How worried would you be for a defense started by 6’1 Brunson & 6’1 Mitchell ? Or is the defensive concern overrated

Very.. they’d be exploited every night


They dont have to play all 33-34 minutes together. In fact they could be paired only 20 minutes give or take depending on match ups. Also Mitchell can be a good perimeter defender and has a 6'10 wingspan.

If we came away with Mitchell R/Hartenstein (better stretch 5) at 5, Randle/Obi at 4, RJ and maybe Grimes at 3, Mitchell/IQ/RJ at 2, Brunson/IQ/McBride at 1

That would be a very very improved team over last years.

Brunson exposed Mitchell as a lousy defender in these playoffs
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Post#908 » by snadler » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:17 pm

It’s not happening but where would this lineup put the Knicks in the east, top 5?

Ayton
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Post#909 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:17 pm

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Aren’t they only sold in Puerto Rico. I remember you told me you paid like $20 for them on Amazon :lol:



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Post#910 » by Jeffrey » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:19 pm

We usually Woj and Sham would have a few nuggets before the opening of FA. I wonder if GMs told them to STFU this year or they might lose draft capital for tampering.
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Post#911 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:19 pm

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Translation: we are not getting Mitchell and stay in school kids
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Post#912 » by Jimmit79 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:19 pm

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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#913 » by spree8 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:19 pm

Capn'O wrote:
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If we keep trading back and out of drafts and won't ante up for a 25 yr old all star ascending player at an area of biggest need we have no hope. All we did was take care and prioritize a CAA family member. For the record Murray to me is twice as attractive as DMitch even.




We're not in a position to trade unprotected picks, the 2025 draft isn't even that far off. DeJounte Murray isn't good enough or a big enough difference maker for us to trade a package like that for, the Hawks already have their number 1 guy, we're still in search of ours.

People who wanted Murray just got caught up in the FOMO of trade/free agency, we potentially have our guy in Brunson, who will most likely be a 20ppg scorer with increased usage, and most importantly he has proven he can play off ball dominant players. Murray is one of the most ball dominant players in the league, he can't shoot off the ball and you're trying to add that to a team that has two other players that need the ball. It's not a smart move at all, less if you know the history of teams trading future picks like that, example, Tatum and Brown were Nets picks.


You don't even need to look beyond our own history. Aldridge, Noah, Hayward, etc.



I don’t think it’d comparable to the picks we own from the other teams. Those things are gunna end up as 2nd rounders, not top 5 picks.

Moot point because there’s no way Leon would’ve passed on his boy for Murray.
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Post#914 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:20 pm

Deandre Ayton Folksssss DEANDRE AYTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IN LEON WE TRUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post#915 » by snadler » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:20 pm

Jeffrey wrote:We usually Woj and Sham would have a few nuggets before the opening of FA. I wonder if GMs told them to STFU this year or they might lose draft capital for tampering.


Actually think it’s more because there aren’t the marquee names they have been involved in past free agency
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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#916 » by GONYK » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:21 pm

spree8 wrote:
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We're not in a position to trade unprotected picks, the 2025 draft isn't even that far off. DeJounte Murray isn't good enough or a big enough difference maker for us to trade a package like that for, the Hawks already have their number 1 guy, we're still in search of ours.

People who wanted Murray just got caught up in the FOMO of trade/free agency, we potentially have our guy in Brunson, who will most likely be a 20ppg scorer with increased usage, and most importantly he has proven he can play off ball dominant players. Murray is one of the most ball dominant players in the league, he can't shoot off the ball and you're trying to add that to a team that has two other players that need the ball. It's not a smart move at all, less if you know the history of teams trading future picks like that, example, Tatum and Brown were Nets picks.


You don't even need to look beyond our own history. Aldridge, Noah, Hayward, etc.



I don’t think it’d comparable to the picks we own from the other teams. Those things are gunna end up as 2nd rounders, not top 5 picks.

Moot point because there’s no way Leon would’ve passed on his boy for Murray.


And the Spurs didn't want protected picks
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Post#917 » by G_K_F » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:22 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:Deandre Ayton Folksssss DEANDRE AYTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IN LEON WE TRUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Knicks Free Agent Frenzy 

Post#918 » by spree8 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:23 pm

snadler wrote:It’s not happening but where would this lineup put the Knicks in the east, top 5?

Ayton
Obi
RJ
Mitchell
Brunson



Bucks
Celtics
Heat
Sixers
Nets

Hmm, depending on how they mesh, and the level of defense Thibs gets them to play, and his rotations/utilizing our depth, that team could compete for 5th or 6th depending on how Atlanta turns out.
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Post#919 » by Jay10 » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:23 pm

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People really wanted the Knicks to give up 4 unprotected first round picks for a guy that isn't a superstar type player, and then in 2 years be forced to give him a max contract because of the compensation you had to give up to acquire him? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#920 » by Kampuchea » Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:24 pm

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