ImageImageImageImageImage

Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion

Moderators: Jeff Van Gully, Deeeez Knicks, HerSports85, j4remi, NoLayupRule, dakomish23, GONYK, mpharris36

User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 82,543
And1: 96,561
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#901 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 3, 2022 1:27 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:This guy's voice is annoying (like bad 60s AM pop radio) but he makes some good points.


It's essentially what the Knicks did by trading KP, which was absolutely the right move - unfortunately for a decent but unimpressive return due to them shedding contracts for capspace.

Knicks fans could take some notes from that.

Massive contracts for inefficient players never work out, except for rare exceptions (e.g. Jrue Holiday as a third option for Milwaukee).

I think the Murray trade is the first domino that will eventually lead to Trae asking out a few years from now.

Murray is a horrible fit, and not a difference-maker. I am for one am relieved the Knicks didn't trade for him.


Maybe they just want him to be tall Lou Williams so Trae doesn't have to play 40 mpg
Image
User avatar
Chanel Bomber
RealGM
Posts: 23,902
And1: 42,015
Joined: Sep 20, 2018
 

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#902 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Jul 3, 2022 1:36 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:This guy's voice is annoying (like bad 60s AM pop radio) but he makes some good points.


It's essentially what the Knicks did by trading KP, which was absolutely the right move - unfortunately for a decent but unimpressive return due to them shedding contracts for capspace.

Knicks fans could take some notes from that.

Massive contracts for inefficient players never work out, except for rare exceptions (e.g. Jrue Holiday as a third option for Milwaukee).

I think the Murray trade is the first domino that will eventually lead to Trae asking out a few years from now.

Murray is a horrible fit, and not a difference-maker. I am for one am relieved the Knicks didn't trade for him.


Maybe they just want him to be tall Lou Williams so Trae doesn't have to play 40 mpg

To quote sham, jesus.
User avatar
Snacks
Rookie
Posts: 1,082
And1: 1,130
Joined: Jun 25, 2020

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#903 » by Snacks » Sun Jul 3, 2022 1:40 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Nobody's touching him until this is resolved. He could face jail time and a multi year suspension or even ban. Plus, it's a PR nightmare to even consider him and utterly foul behavior.

I can't imagine that he didn't do this. On top of the evidence, the wife had something in the neighborhood of a hundred million reasons to wait a few days if she was going to fabricate something. This is extremely bad for Miles.

Could you imagine the fiasco in NYC if the team was to bring him here. It would be a publicity nightmare for Dolan (remember Anucha Brown Sanders?).


Nobody remembers that lying ugly skunk.
iHart
Jules
OG
DD
JB
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 82,543
And1: 96,561
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#904 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 3, 2022 1:43 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:It's essentially what the Knicks did by trading KP, which was absolutely the right move - unfortunately for a decent but unimpressive return due to them shedding contracts for capspace.

Knicks fans could take some notes from that.

Massive contracts for inefficient players never work out, except for rare exceptions (e.g. Jrue Holiday as a third option for Milwaukee).

I think the Murray trade is the first domino that will eventually lead to Trae asking out a few years from now.

Murray is a horrible fit, and not a difference-maker. I am for one am relieved the Knicks didn't trade for him.


Maybe they just want him to be tall Lou Williams so Trae doesn't have to play 40 mpg

To quote sham, jesus.


The Hawks combined a lesser talented player in Huerter and the corpse of Gallo into more talent.
I think the picks were dumb.
They can always move him or some other player later on, since they still have depth to deal.
You're just upset because he doesn't fit your TS% ideal.
Image
User avatar
FrozenEnvelope
Analyst
Posts: 3,654
And1: 5,051
Joined: Feb 03, 2020

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#905 » by FrozenEnvelope » Sun Jul 3, 2022 1:45 pm

Trading unprotected picks for Murray and Gobert are the worst moves of the offseason so far imo.
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 82,543
And1: 96,561
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#906 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 3, 2022 1:48 pm

FrozenEnvelope wrote:Trading unprotected picks for Murray and Gobert are the worst moves of the offseason so far imo.


I want to see Hawks do well with Murray just so Chanel is annoyed
Image
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 82,543
And1: 96,561
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#907 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 3, 2022 1:49 pm

I want to see Towns take 10 3's a game this year
Image
duetta
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 31,437
And1: 12,886
Joined: Aug 28, 2002
Location: Patrolling the middle....

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#908 » by duetta » Sun Jul 3, 2022 1:58 pm

Jimmit79 wrote:The Lakers with zero assets can get Kyrie and Knicks with 11 draft picks can't get one superstar the Knicks have zero pull in this league thanks Dolan.


You really want this self-centered knucklehead on this team?
User avatar
Chanel Bomber
RealGM
Posts: 23,902
And1: 42,015
Joined: Sep 20, 2018
 

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#909 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Jul 3, 2022 1:58 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Maybe they just want him to be tall Lou Williams so Trae doesn't have to play 40 mpg

To quote sham, jesus.


The Hawks combined a lesser talented player in Huerter and the corpse of Gallo into more talent.
I think the picks were dumb.
They can always move him or some other player later on, since they still have depth to deal.
You're just upset because he doesn't fit your TS% ideal.

You don't trade away 3 picks for a player who can't play off the ball and thus doesn't fit with your franchise player.

It's like bringing in Westbrook to play with Harden. It makes no basketball sense.

I'm not upset. In fact, I am relieved.

It's not about the name of the back of the jersey. High-usage, low-efficiency players generally don't help their teams win unless they are generational playmakers.
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 82,543
And1: 96,561
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#910 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 3, 2022 1:59 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:To quote sham, jesus.


The Hawks combined a lesser talented player in Huerter and the corpse of Gallo into more talent.
I think the picks were dumb.
They can always move him or some other player later on, since they still have depth to deal.
You're just upset because he doesn't fit your TS% ideal.

You don't trade away 3 picks for a player who can't play off the ball and thus doesn't fit with your franchise player.

It's like bringing in Westbrook to play with Harden. It makes no basketball sense.

I'm not upset. In fact, I am relieved.

It's not about the name of the back of the jersey. High-usage, low-efficiency players generally don't help their teams win unless they are generational playmakers.


30 professional basketball organizations and this guy is still in the league. Shocking.

He is on his 3rd team though. :D
Image
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 82,543
And1: 96,561
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#911 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 3, 2022 2:01 pm

duetta wrote:
Jimmit79 wrote:The Lakers with zero assets can get Kyrie and Knicks with 11 draft picks can't get one superstar the Knicks have zero pull in this league thanks Dolan.


You really want this self-centered knucklehead on this team?


He probably has an RJ extension and trade for Kyrie thing in mind
Image
User avatar
Capn'O
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 91,115
And1: 111,588
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Location: Bone Goal
 

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#912 » by Capn'O » Sun Jul 3, 2022 2:12 pm

RHODEY wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
So what were her injuries? I saw the bruises....and I heard she had a ruptured eardrum...if true that would be pretty tough to fake..


Her nose was broken too. Concussion.


Oh well damn...he did that **** :nod:


Aye. He did that ****.
BAF Clippers

PG: Brunson/Coleworld
SG: CJ/Merrill
SF: Black/Thybulle
PF: Kuminga/Kenrich Williams
C: Looney/Sharpe

Hugo | DWade | Craig Porter | Dadiet | Minott


:beer:
HarthorneWingo
RealGM
Posts: 97,546
And1: 62,686
Joined: May 16, 2005

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#913 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jul 3, 2022 3:35 pm

Oscirus wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Nobody's touching him until this is resolved. He could face jail time and a multi year suspension or even ban. Plus, it's a PR nightmare to even consider him and utterly foul behavior.

I can't imagine that he didn't do this. On top of the evidence, the wife had something in the neighborhood of a hundred million reasons to wait a few days if she was going to fabricate something. This is extremely bad for Miles.

Could you imagine the fiasco in NYC if the team was to bring him here. It would be a publicity nightmare for Dolan (remember Anucha Brown Sanders?).

KP had charges on him on the way out and the publicity was hushed up real quick. Honestly , Im shocked that the hornets didnt try and get her as soon as they heard the news, Id be willing to bet there are certain messed up stories we'll never hear cuz the victims were paid off.


I don’t know what happened between KP and the woman and who, if anyone, intervened on his behalf. Also, these players can be targets for certain types of people.
HarthorneWingo
RealGM
Posts: 97,546
And1: 62,686
Joined: May 16, 2005

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#914 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jul 3, 2022 3:36 pm

Capn'O wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Her nose was broken too. Concussion.


Oh well damn...he did that **** :nod:


Aye. He did that ****.


I can’t see him not going to jail.
HarthorneWingo
RealGM
Posts: 97,546
And1: 62,686
Joined: May 16, 2005

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#915 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jul 3, 2022 3:42 pm

duetta wrote:
Jimmit79 wrote:The Lakers with zero assets can get Kyrie and Knicks with 11 draft picks can't get one superstar the Knicks have zero pull in this league thanks Dolan.


You really want this self-centered knucklehead on this team?


The only person who can control Kyrie is LeBron. Of course.
User avatar
3toheadmelo
RealGM
Posts: 96,278
And1: 138,191
Joined: Feb 15, 2015
 

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#916 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Jul 3, 2022 4:12 pm

Hmm if Ayton joins Utah that means I will have to join forces with my enemy, guan0 and be a Utah fan
Image
It’s like when lil bitches make subliminal records, if it ain’t directed directly at me, I don’t respect it
User avatar
stuporman
RealGM
Posts: 32,092
And1: 21,158
Joined: Nov 27, 2005
Location: optimistic skeptical realist

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#917 » by stuporman » Sun Jul 3, 2022 5:17 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:This guy's voice is annoying (like bad 60s AM pop radio) but he makes some good points.



So he made the same points many others have made... he can't shoot, he's going to be paid too much soon and they want to tank for chumbawumba. Stating the obvious in a goofy voice, um, ok.

Oh and at the end he made the same point so many others have about the Knicks that is absolute nonsense... the Knicks moved their whole team for Brunson?... I didn't realize a backup guard, although good one, and two guys who barely played last year are the Knicks 'whole team'.

It's the same as the people who claim the Knicks mortgaged their whole future for Brunson...as if a bunch of second round picks when the team still has around 20 picks over the next half dozen years and a 4 year contract at about $25milper completely destroys the Knicks future with ho hope to improve.

Guy is clueless and he sounds like he should be doing voice over for one of those D level funniest video shows on some back water channel. :lol:
If you'd rather see your team fail so you can be right
...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
Image?
Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
Wisdom is knowing what to pull out of the bag to do the job
User avatar
Meat
Head Coach
Posts: 7,317
And1: 5,090
Joined: Jun 30, 2013
     

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#918 » by Meat » Sun Jul 3, 2022 5:24 pm

Adelheid wrote:Hornets making MB a UFA

Perry's eyes lit. Would swoop in with his tired and tested reclamation project magic :crazy: :noway: :nonono: :banghead:

get the **** of here, this isnt a reclamation project. This is human trash,
HopelessKnick
Analyst
Posts: 3,293
And1: 3,002
Joined: Aug 03, 2021

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#919 » by HopelessKnick » Sun Jul 3, 2022 5:26 pm

stuporman wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:This guy's voice is annoying (like bad 60s AM pop radio) but he makes some good points.



So he made the same points many others have made... he can't shoot, he's going to be paid too much soon and they want to tank for chumbawumba. Stating the obvious in a goofy voice, um, ok.

Oh and at the end he made the same point so many others have about the Knicks that is absolute nonsense... the Knicks moved their whole team for Brunson?... I didn't realize a backup guard, although good one, and two guys who barely played last year are the Knicks 'whole team'.

It's the same as the people who claim the Knicks mortgaged their whole future for Brunson...as if a bunch of second round picks when the team still has around 20 picks over the next half dozen years and a 4 year contract at about $25milper completely destroys the Knicks future with ho hope to improve.

Guy is clueless and he sounds like he should be doing voice over for one of those D level funniest video shows on some back water channel. :lol:


While he does not seem to know anything about the Knicks, his general point is absolutely correct. The Spurs are seeing that they are going nowhere so they are entering a full rebuild. Watch the Spurs emerge again as a solid up-and-coming team within the next 3-4 years while the Knicks will still be begging other teams to trade them their all-star/superstar. The Spurs are going about this the right way and will be ahead of the Knicks soon enough.
User avatar
Meat
Head Coach
Posts: 7,317
And1: 5,090
Joined: Jun 30, 2013
     

Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#920 » by Meat » Sun Jul 3, 2022 5:30 pm

Knox wrote:
DOT wrote:
Knox wrote:To imply it’s not is disgusting . Why?? because women are made of sugar and spice and everything nice? They can’t be terrible to men?

You sound like someone jaded by a personal experience going out of your way to find data to back up your feelings

If you genuinely believe that women falsely accuse men at near the same rate that they don't report domestic violence/sexual assault, then you do not live in reality

The rate of false allegations is somewhere in the 2.5%-5% range. It's difficult to say how many go unreported, but some studies suggest at least half go unreported

So at best, 1 in 20 cases are false allegations, but for every allegation, there's also one that goes unreported

It's not even close, you're clouded by your own experiences not gathering data and reacting impulsively

Knox wrote:Did I say gather the facts and decide for men only ?


No, but the fact that you're more concerned about false allegations than women not reporting when one is significantly more common than the other says a lot.



You clearly haven’t read anything I posted in its totality. Still waiting to see if I mistyped…. That or said gathering the facts apply to Men only. To assume that Men are inherently more evil than women because of their private parts is crazy to me. I am saying treat every person equally and gather the facts. More than likely the male is the aggressor because of his sex is sexism.


it's scientific fact that testosterone has a facilitative effect on aggression.

Return to New York Knicks