More Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread

[DaGawd]

I generally agree with you, but the optics are bringing in someone like LeBron seems like a culture killer to me. He wins a championship in NY -- or even just signs or get traded here -- instantly makes it more about LeBron than it is about the NYK.

There's zero chance he's leaving LA, anyway.

Never say never.

If a team outside of Los Angeles were to draft Bronny, Lebron would be all but gone from the Lakers.

I just don't want that team to be us. KNICKS can do without Lebron.

Philly has a ton of cap space.

Embiid
LeBron
Maxey

i’m not sure that team really scares me with embiid’s durability issues and lebron being 80 years of age

[Jstock12]

If we lose I-Hart, Bitdazi is a 24 year old free agent.

Other options:

Drummond?

Valencunas?

Looney?

Capela?

Gotta go with Looney. Best defender out of the bunch, and proven to be a valuable player in the playoffs.

[Wildcat]

I generally agree with you, but the optics are bringing in someone like LeBron seems like a culture killer to me. He wins a championship in NY -- or even just signs or get traded here -- instantly makes it more about LeBron than it is about the NYK.

There's zero chance he's leaving LA, anyway.

Never say never.

If a team outside of Los Angeles were to draft Bronny, Lebron would be all but gone from the Lakers.

I just don't want that team to be us. KNICKS can do without Lebron.

Philly has a ton of cap space.

Embiid
LeBron
Maxey

He is not going to gritty arse Philly.

[spree2kawhi]

Knicks are trading Bogs and picks for Markkanen

I’ll take you at your word.

[Wildcat]

Bojan is really bad defensively so we wouldn’t start him based on that alone. He could get some bench minutes though if we go into the season with him on the roster still and maybe look for a deadline deal if nothing happens this summer.

Yeah, that's where I'm getting at. And I'm absolutely fine with him as a bench piece. I thought he was getting into a groove and getting that stroke back before that hand injury (and the ankle injury). I think he vibes off Josh well, too.

"Start the season" aka "be on the Knicks as the season starts".....was not intended to mean that he should be a starter....obviously starting Randle and Bogdan alongside each other would be bad defensively and push OG to the 2. I do think however a McBride-Hart-Bogdan-Mitch bench unit could be pretty lethal....you have great defense along with some shotmaking and slashing ability next to Bogdan.

Got it. And you're right, indeed. I do agree that the bench has a good blend of offense/defense.

[knicksstuff]

They can do it immediately after the finals.

Not with og, since they have to wait 6 months after trade. June 30.

Is that the official day he can sign or the day they are allowed to talk to him?

Fred Katz saying we can start discussing with all of our free agents today

[thebuzzardman]

Not with og, since they have to wait 6 months after trade. June 30.

Is that the official day he can sign or the day they are allowed to talk to him?

Fred Katz saying we can start discussing with all of our free agents today

Legal tampering! Would be exciting, but no FA wants to come to the Knicks to play 15 minutes off the bench. Very sad.

Moar Burks and Bogs it is

[WargamesX]

Is that the official day he can sign or the day they are allowed to talk to him?

Fred Katz saying we can start discussing with all of our free agents today

Legal tampering! Would be exciting, but no FA wants to come to the Knicks to play 15 minutes off the bench. Very sad.

Moar Burks and Bogs it is

I wonder will teams announce there deals now or waste each other’s time by not saying nothing until they can officially sign their players so opposing teams don’t know who to target.

[spree2kawhi]

Who will leave the rotation? OG, Donte? I doubt Thibs would play Randle or Lauri as a Center.

Sixth or seventh man

Lauri is not playing a reserve role. He is after a max next season.

He is the center we need. Bring Mitch off the bench, then he can move down to PF. It isn’t happening but it would be great. Pure shooter at 7‘0, good rebounder too.

[robillionaire]

Markkanen has never played on a winning team, he’s entering year 8 and has never played in a playoff game and the 3 teams he has played for all seemed to improve with him gone. I say this because the price tag would be very high just to trade for him, then he wants an max contract and would be for a player who hasn’t even had any regular season success and and never has been to the playoffs. So a colossal gamble

[kNicksGmen]

random semi off topic thought. There's been a bunch of random "OG could leave" articles but haven't seen any about Siakam. Is that a function of knicks for clicks more than anything? Or the idea that Pacers are going to give him the Max where as with OG it's more of an unknown number?

[robillionaire]

random semi off topic thought. There's been a bunch of random "OG could leave" articles but haven't seen any about Siakam. Is that a function of knicks for clicks more than anything? Or the idea that Pacers are going to give him the Max where as with OG it's more of an unknown number?

It’s Knicks for clicks, OG isn’t leaving, don’t forget to smash that like and subscribe button for the latest Knicks rumors

[Wildcat]

random semi off topic thought. There's been a bunch of random "OG could leave" articles but haven't seen any about Siakam. Is that a function of knicks for clicks more than anything? Or the idea that Pacers are going to give him the Max where as with OG it's more of an unknown number?

Zero chance OG leaves. It's Knicks for Clicks. But also, front office/agent probably seeding things to avoid tampering charges. Siakam is getting that max from Indiana.

[HarthorneWingo]

Never say never.

If a team outside of Los Angeles were to draft Bronny, Lebron would be all but gone from the Lakers.

I just don't want that team to be us. KNICKS can do without Lebron.

Philly has a ton of cap space.

Embiid
LeBron
Maxey

He is not going to gritty arse Philly.

He grew up in and played for Cleveland. LeBron loves gritty.

[Knicksfan1992]

If we get Okoro in a sign and trade, it would be hard to keep Bojan because we would be hard-capped in the first apron (178M) and with OG, IHart and Bojan, our payroll would hit 170M (9 players). If we are using the MLE to sign Okoro, we will have to waive Bojan. Otherwise, we surely would pass.

I like Okoro. Why would the Cavs sign-and-trade him for 12m per year? Every year he has improved and his defense has been above average.

Jeremy thinks Cavs will be in a salary cap hell in 2025 after Donovan and Mobley get their max.

I think Cavs should re-sign him for cheap and trade him next season if they need to. But I can see the Cavs sign and trading him if the negotiations are tough. But the price should be at least a late FRP.

Yeah this is where Jeremy's analysis falls flat IMO. He assumes the worst for other teams while thinking the Knicks hold the leverage in every situation they're in. I also think he's too cap minutiae oriented in how he decides who is a fit and who isn't.

The Cavs are competing to win now...Why would they just let Okoro walk for a TPE and maybe an ok 2nd rounder just to avoid the 2nd apron? He's young, ready to contribute now and also has some runway to improve. The exact kind of guy you need to keep to stay competitive. That kind of offer will be there next summer if they really need to shed him. Assuming the Cavs make the rest of their moves in the offseason, the 2nd Apron would really only come into play if they wanted to make an in season trade or a move the following off-season.

[Wildcat]

I like Okoro. Why would the Cavs sign-and-trade him for 12m per year? Every year he has improved and his defense has been above average.

Jeremy thinks Cavs will be in a salary cap hell in 2025 after Donovan and Mobley get their max.

I think Cavs should re-sign him for cheap and trade him next season if they need to. But I can see the Cavs sign and trading him if the negotiations are tough. But the price should be at least a late FRP.

Yeah this is where Jeremy's analysis falls flat IMO. He assumes the worst for other teams while thinking the Knicks hold the leverage in every situation they're in. I also think he's too cap minutiae oriented in how he decides who is a fit and who isn't.

The Cavs are competing to win now...Why would they just let Okoro walk for a TPE and maybe an ok 2nd rounder just to avoid the 2nd apron? He's young, ready to contribute now and also has some runway to improve. The exact kind of guy you need to keep to stay competitive. That kind of offer will be there next summer if they really need to shed him. Assuming the Cavs make the rest of their moves in the offseason, the 2nd Apron would really only come into play if they wanted to make an in season trade or a move the following off-season.

Not that I agree with Jeremy, but their team right now is not a win-now team and they are not a team positioned right now to handle the 2nd apron.

[Richard4444]

random semi off topic thought. There's been a bunch of random "OG could leave" articles but haven't seen any about Siakam. Is that a function of knicks for clicks more than anything? Or the idea that Pacers are going to give him the Max where as with OG it's more of an unknown number?

Zero chance OG leaves. It's Knicks for Clicks. But also, front office/agent probably seeding things to avoid tampering charges. Siakam is getting that max from Indiana.

I do not think you can be charged for tempering for talking to your own players.

[Richard4444]

Sixth or seventh man

Lauri is not playing a reserve role. He is after a max next season.

He is the center we need. Bring Mitch off the bench, then he can move down to PF. It isn’t happening but it would be great. Pure shooter at 7‘0, good rebounder too.

He barely played as a center. And Thibs loves rim protection and offensive rebounds.

[Knicksfan1992]

Jeremy thinks Cavs will be in a salary cap hell in 2025 after Donovan and Mobley get their max.

I think Cavs should re-sign him for cheap and trade him next season if they need to. But I can see the Cavs sign and trading him if the negotiations are tough. But the price should be at least a late FRP.

Yeah this is where Jeremy's analysis falls flat IMO. He assumes the worst for other teams while thinking the Knicks hold the leverage in every situation they're in. I also think he's too cap minutiae oriented in how he decides who is a fit and who isn't.

The Cavs are competing to win now...Why would they just let Okoro walk for a TPE and maybe an ok 2nd rounder just to avoid the 2nd apron? He's young, ready to contribute now and also has some runway to improve. The exact kind of guy you need to keep to stay competitive. That kind of offer will be there next summer if they really need to shed him. Assuming the Cavs make the rest of their moves in the offseason, the 2nd Apron would really only come into play if they wanted to make an in season trade or a move the following off-season.

Not that I agree with Jeremy, but their team right now is not a win-now team and they are not a team positioned right now to handle the 2nd apron.

I definitely disagree with that. We've won one more series than them over the past 2 years...Would you not consider us win-now?

They can make just as many injury excuses as we could tbh. They beat Boston in Boston before Mitchell went down and they didn't have Allen for most of the playoffs.

They have an All-NBA player in his prime. A budding all-Defense level big. Another all-star big and an all-star pg. Whether they keep that whole core together remains to be seen but they definitely are trying to win.

Also Gilbert isn't a cheap owner. He's proven he'll spend if he has a contender on their hands.

I just don't think they're going to let a 22 year old wing who happens to have a good relationship with their current star walk because of possible future money concerns.

[Knicksfan1992]

Also, as a clarifier, I like Okoro's game. I was a big fan pre-draft. If his shot continues to improve he is a very valuable archetype to have and the Knicks should explore it. I just don't think the Cavs are going to let that walk for basically nothing like Jeremy insinuates