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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#921 » by Apples » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:29 pm

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K P 6 wrote:Jennings is cool but Rose will have a bigger impact. Just watch. Jennings fast pace with control of the ball is exactly what the second unit needs. We are set up perfectly.


Having both these dudes is what eventually puts us in a class with the Celtics or the Raptors. I have no doubt we're atleast as good as those teams once we get familiar with each other. Even know , those team can't claim to have a better starting 5 . Also, once it becomes clear that Kuz, Willie, and the rest of our youngins are for real you wont be hearing that our bench is weak either.


Plus one of Melo or KP probably will be out there a lot with the second unit.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

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K P 6 wrote:Jennings is cool but Rose will have a bigger impact. Just watch. Jennings fast pace with control of the ball is exactly what the second unit needs. We are set up perfectly.


Having both these dudes is what eventually puts us in a class with the Celtics or the Raptors. I have no doubt we're atleast as good as those teams once we get familiar with each other. Even know , those team can't claim to have a better starting 5 . Also, once it becomes clear that Kuz, Willie, and the rest of our youngins are for real you wont be hearing that our bench is weak either.

Jenning running that second unit is nothing to toy around with. Especially since lineups will be staggered. Jennings will be getting KP looks. And I dont see why Courtney wont be playing 30mpg at SG. Either way im anxious to see the rotation.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

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Post#925 » by MetaKnick13 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:50 pm

Man, I really want this stupid trial to be over. I have the utmost sympathy and respect for real victims of sexual abuse, but the details in this case just don't add up and this whole thing has wasted time, money, and growth for the team as well as an attempt on destroying a man's life who seems to be innocent.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#927 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:52 pm

ny-n-md wrote:I can't help but think of a bad Maury episode when it comes to this case. The first person to come out and present their side of the story always gets the support of the audience. Then when the other person comes out they are met by boos. They're never even really given a chance to explain their side. When Maury brings out the envelope, the moment of truth is here. "You are NOT THE FATHER." Now the audience shifts their stance and heckles the first person and cheers for the second person. I'm hoping Rose is innocent and found not guilty and the audience stops booing him and leaves this case alone. Not a perfect parallel but a lot of similarities. If he's guilty then he should get what's coming to him.


did you really just compare a rape case to maury?
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#928 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:55 pm

moocow007 wrote:Rose might not be the sharpest tool in the shed and his sexual predilections probably can be considered borderline deviant but at the end of the day, there is no law against being dumb and/or having odd sexual fetishes about ménage-a-many nor should someone be responsible for paying any money (much less millions of dollars) for it (unless you are paying for a tutor or a hooker). Hopefully for Rose, the jury understands that. The scary/sad part is that a good number of people that serve on juries can't and pass judgments based on what they think of the person and not based on evidence.


agree 100%...

unless he raped someone. then, no.

and i don't know how we will ever know the truth. i can only hope justice is served.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#929 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:59 pm

NYKAL wrote:I said it HERE when they first came to the team and guys like B&O killed me but, I still think Jennings was the best piece we brought in and is also our PG going forward. Would love to see Rose return to Allstar from (MVP Rose is gone and never coming back) but, as the PG going forward, he's never been the type of guard to set teammates up with easy shots which is something Jennings can do. In a perfect world, Rose will stay healthy and we keep them both.


price tag could be a reason for jennings getting the job going forward.

but, as talented as jennings is, he's volatile. he's like jean grey. the phoenix comes out... but can't be controlled. scary prospect for the most important position on the floor.

but you can do worse. i like jennings, but at his best he is a middle-of-the-pack type of starter. as a super-sub, he's an excellent choice. first guy off the bench is really the best role for him. if you need him to log 35 mpg and lead your team, you might be in trouble.

we've seen rose win the MVP in that role, and we're banking on him being a top-tier starter again. but if he doesn't show, it's best to let him walk and lean on jennings for a year if need be.

i wonder how noah would feel if rose got his papers.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#930 » by NYKAL » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:19 pm

K P 6 wrote:
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K P 6 wrote:Jennings is cool but Rose will have a bigger impact. Just watch. Jennings fast pace with control of the ball is exactly what the second unit needs. We are set up perfectly.


Having both these dudes is what eventually puts us in a class with the Celtics or the Raptors. I have no doubt we're atleast as good as those teams once we get familiar with each other. Even know , those team can't claim to have a better starting 5 . Also, once it becomes clear that Kuz, Willie, and the rest of our youngins are for real you wont be hearing that our bench is weak either.

Jenning running that second unit is nothing to toy around with. Especially since lineups will be staggered. Jennings will be getting KP looks. And I dont see why Courtney wont be playing 30mpg at SG. Either way im anxious to see the rotation.



I have a different outlook. I'd rather have Jennings getting easy shots for Melo and Proz as opposed to taking shot away from them. With Rose in the starting Lineup, he's looking to Score 1st while we already have very good scorers on the floor.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#931 » by trophywinner » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:24 pm

i don't feel like jennings is a starter (if he ever was). certainly not a starter on a team with hopes of making a deep playoff run. i just don't think he's that good. he's not someone teams double team or gameplan for. easy to confuse flashy for good and that's about what he's been this preseason, flashy. people seem to be really high on jennings rn

if rose doesn't work out, and if there's nothing in FA worth going after, sure jennings becomes an option at pg as a stop gap, while they groom young pg or bring in a legitimate option through fa/trade. imo i think jennings is best suited for that 6th man/bench role.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#932 » by BKlutch » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:26 pm

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NYKAL wrote:I said it HERE when they first came to the team and guys like B&O killed me but, I still think Jennings was the best piece we brought in and is also our PG going forward. Would love to see Rose return to Allstar from (MVP Rose is gone and never coming back) but, as the PG going forward, he's never been the type of guard to set teammates up with easy shots which is something Jennings can do. In a perfect world, Rose will stay healthy and we keep them both.


price tag could be a reason for jennings getting the job going forward.

but, as talented as jennings is, he's volatile. he's like jean grey. the phoenix comes out... but can't be controlled. scary prospect for the most important position on the floor.

but you can do worse. i like jennings, but at his best he is a middle-of-the-pack type of starter. as a super-sub, he's an excellent choice. first guy off the bench is really the best role for him. if you need him to log 35 mpg and lead your team, you might be in trouble.

we've seen rose win the MVP in that role, and we're banking on him being a top-tier starter again. but if he doesn't show, it's best to let him walk and lean on jennings for a year if need be.

i wonder how noah would feel if rose got his papers.

That last sentence is a major point. Judging the team chemistry is going to be an important factor in deciding on Rose's new contract, if any. If Noah is not working out, any decision on Rose can relate to him and rest of the team only. If Noah is really an important cog in the team, they won't be able to ignore that in looking at what to offer Rose. Of course, this is only if all are healthy.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#933 » by GONYK » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:26 pm

NYKAL wrote:
K P 6 wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Having both these dudes is what eventually puts us in a class with the Celtics or the Raptors. I have no doubt we're atleast as good as those teams once we get familiar with each other. Even know , those team can't claim to have a better starting 5 . Also, once it becomes clear that Kuz, Willie, and the rest of our youngins are for real you wont be hearing that our bench is weak either.

Jenning running that second unit is nothing to toy around with. Especially since lineups will be staggered. Jennings will be getting KP looks. And I dont see why Courtney wont be playing 30mpg at SG. Either way im anxious to see the rotation.



I have a different outlook. I'd rather have Jennings getting easy shots for Melo and Proz as opposed to taking shot away from them. With Rose in the starting Lineup, he's looking to Score 1st while we already have very good scorers on the floor.


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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#934 » by F N 11 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:26 pm

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Having both these dudes is what eventually puts us in a class with the Celtics or the Raptors. I have no doubt we're atleast as good as those teams once we get familiar with each other. Even know , those team can't claim to have a better starting 5 . Also, once it becomes clear that Kuz, Willie, and the rest of our youngins are for real you wont be hearing that our bench is weak either.

Jenning running that second unit is nothing to toy around with. Especially since lineups will be staggered. Jennings will be getting KP looks. And I dont see why Courtney wont be playing 30mpg at SG. Either way im anxious to see the rotation.



I have a different outlook. I'd rather have Jennings getting easy shots for Melo and Proz as opposed to taking shot away from them. With Rose in the starting Lineup, he's looking to Score 1st while we already have very good scorers on the floor.

Thats what I said. getting KP easy looks. Rose played 1 game but already seems to have his fave target in KP. Jennings will get everyone looks. I See a lot of

Jennings
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possibly happening a lot. 3 point specialist with a driver in Jennings along with 2 finishers.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#935 » by Swoosh_Stripes » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:31 pm

NYKAL wrote:
K P 6 wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Having both these dudes is what eventually puts us in a class with the Celtics or the Raptors. I have no doubt we're atleast as good as those teams once we get familiar with each other. Even know , those team can't claim to have a better starting 5 . Also, once it becomes clear that Kuz, Willie, and the rest of our youngins are for real you wont be hearing that our bench is weak either.

Jenning running that second unit is nothing to toy around with. Especially since lineups will be staggered. Jennings will be getting KP looks. And I dont see why Courtney wont be playing 30mpg at SG. Either way im anxious to see the rotation.



I have a different outlook. I'd rather have Jennings getting easy shots for Melo and Proz as opposed to taking shot away from them. With Rose in the starting Lineup, he's looking to Score 1st while we already have very good scorers on the floor.


Jennings is not exactly J. Kidd out there either, he's also a score 1st PG.
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#936 » by NoLayupRule » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:45 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
NYKAL wrote:I said it HERE when they first came to the team and guys like B&O killed me but, I still think Jennings was the best piece we brought in and is also our PG going forward. Would love to see Rose return to Allstar from (MVP Rose is gone and never coming back) but, as the PG going forward, he's never been the type of guard to set teammates up with easy shots which is something Jennings can do. In a perfect world, Rose will stay healthy and we keep them both.


price tag could be a reason for jennings getting the job going forward.

but, as talented as jennings is, he's volatile. he's like jean grey. the phoenix comes out... but can't be controlled. scary prospect for the most important position on the floor.

but you can do worse. i like jennings, but at his best he is a middle-of-the-pack type of starter. as a super-sub, he's an excellent choice. first guy off the bench is really the best role for him. if you need him to log 35 mpg and lead your team, you might be in trouble.

we've seen rose win the MVP in that role, and we're banking on him being a top-tier starter again. but if he doesn't show, it's best to let him walk and lean on jennings for a year if need be.

i wonder how noah would feel if rose got his papers.

Im extremely excited to see how well Jennings is playing too

but lets not overrate

Jennings has a lot of turnovers and bad shots in his future in Orange and Blue

Rose is a battle tested leader and MVP winner
this team is vastly superior with Rose over Jennings

Im very hopeful that Jennings becomes the 6th man he has the potential to be

but this team goes beyond expectation with a healthy and productive Rose, not Jennings
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#937 » by NYKAL » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:19 pm

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Glad we're all here to debate semantics instead of engaging what my point quite obviously was.

Let me spell it out: Rose is a waste of cap space and he will be bad this year (if he plays at all).


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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#938 » by ny-n-md » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:19 pm

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ny-n-md wrote:I can't help but think of a bad Maury episode when it comes to this case. The first person to come out and present their side of the story always gets the support of the audience. Then when the other person comes out they are met by boos. They're never even really given a chance to explain their side. When Maury brings out the envelope, the moment of truth is here. "You are NOT THE FATHER." Now the audience shifts their stance and heckles the first person and cheers for the second person. I'm hoping Rose is innocent and found not guilty and the audience stops booing him and leaves this case alone. Not a perfect parallel but a lot of similarities. If he's guilty then he should get what's coming to him.


did you really just compare a rape case to maury?


Not every accusation is true. We have to see how it plays out in the court of law, just like the accusations on the show that are not always true. No disrespect to rape victims but just the similarities in scenarios.
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Post#939 » by F N 11 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:46 pm



Jennings was playing so good before his injury
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Re: Rose may face Criminal Charges 

Post#940 » by CJackson » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:50 pm

So what's up wid dis trial?

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