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Re: Magic PG: So Let Me Get This Straight... 

Post#921 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:00 pm

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He lost the team because they went away from what worked and they were losing.

And still proves my point that Melo did not in any way shape or form push Woodson out the door


Knicks keep turning the roster over, turning the coaches over, and yet still play offense a certain way and tend to have the same issues on defense? Yet who is the constant? I've generally supported Melo but it's time to see what the issue is.

Players can be good but ultimately not that conducive to good teams. Part of it is the Knicks, always firing coaches and trying another. But the teams sure do seem to quit or tune coaches out here pretty damn quick. I'm not saying Melo led the revolt on Woodson. He lost the team; it was clear as day. But it sure seems to be a trend that coaches get tuned out pretty quick. Some of them deserve it, others maybe not.

Name a coach that didn't deserve it.
The only one I can think of is Woody.

D'Antoni deserved it and before he got linked up with Harden people wondered why the fuq he would ever be considered for another head coaching job.

Rambis is a poor coach. Period.
Fisher was inexperienced and it showed.


Every coach that comes here ain't sh*t this has been since JVG.


Woody deserved it, ultimately

D'Antoni who knows. He's a good offensive coach who can't coach D. You'd have to figure Carmelo would love that. I guess he's the wrong kind of good offense only coach.
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Post#922 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:03 pm

Capn'O wrote:Melo did click with Fisher for whatever reason.


Kobe.
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Post#923 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:05 pm

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You could lead the team in assists with a ferret in your shorts and lead boots playing next to last year's backcourt

So he got assists while playing with bums

Wow. You really do like Melo. That's a pro Melo argument


The team ranked 26th in assists last year with 20.5 APG so Melo getting 4.2 APG is no great accomplishment.


25 per cent is a great accomplishment.
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Post#924 » by ozwizard8 » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:14 pm

El Poochio wrote:Melo haters gonna be lost for words when his leadership leads us to 10th pick and a young guard to ride the Unicorn for the next 15 years

If we need leader for tanking process we can use ****. Calderon would help too but ...
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Post#925 » by Jeffrey » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:17 pm

GONYK wrote:Are we really stooping to idolizing Mike D'Antoni?


No, but there is a lot of revision with D'antoni's history.
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Post#926 » by NewEra » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:18 pm

Same ole Melo, but he drops 40 tomorrow and everybody loves him again.
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Post#927 » by CJackson » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:20 pm

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Yankeeknickfan wrote:So he got assists while playing with bums

Wow. You really do like Melo. That's a pro Melo argument


The team ranked 26th in assists last year with 20.5 APG so Melo getting 4.2 APG is no great accomplishment.


25 per cent is a great accomplishment.


Like I said, you could do the same when you're trapped inside a bowl of hamsters

Melo did play his best ball as a Knick the first half of last season, but you don't give a trophy to a guy who spent the previous dozen seasons lacking in fundamental all-around play because he passed a little bit more than he did before

The never-ending tale of Melo the guy who could and should do this and that because he has the talent, but rarely does is not something that gets wiped clean because of 30-40 games

That he added an extra assist to his average last season simply shows he had the talent to do so all along and it was not hard to accomplish when all Jose did was rotate the ball around the perimeter and Grant was leaping headfirst into the rim and crashing to the floor like a bag of chicken bones

25 percent on a team without passers is not an accomplishment to get stoked about. It is 20% actually if it matters
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Post#928 » by Damas » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:21 pm

NewEra wrote:Same ole Melo, but he drops 40 tomorrow and everybody loves him again.


Before or after he lets the other team score on him with ease and we lose in a nice blow out fashion? Chucking to get your 40 and playing putrid defence isn't going to get us to the playoffs.
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Post#929 » by Jeffrey » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:23 pm

More posts in the postgame thread than the game itself. This might be the game where majority of the fans wants him out.
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Post#930 » by El Poochio » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:26 pm

ozwizard8 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Melo haters gonna be lost for words when his leadership leads us to 10th pick and a young guard to ride the Unicorn for the next 15 years

If we need leader for tanking process we can use ****. Calderon would help too but ...


Calderon or a shİtter like Vujashİt doesnt worth wearing the Knicks jersey sorry, someone who is a world beater in spurts but mostly inconsistent and getting "injured" is a better cover, we are not Heat we have fans and Sixers is no different than a Dleague team, you need stealth tank to stroll in New York City
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Post#931 » by Mecca » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:28 pm

El Poochio wrote:
ozwizard8 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Melo haters gonna be lost for words when his leadership leads us to 10th pick and a young guard to ride the Unicorn for the next 15 years

If we need leader for tanking process we can use ****. Calderon would help too but ...


Calderon or a shİtter like Vujashİt doesnt worth wearing the Knicks jersey sorry, someone who is a world beater in spurts but mostly inconsistent and getting "injured" is a better cover, we are not Heat we have fans and Sixers is no different than a Dleague team, you need stealth tank to stroll in New York City


Al Harrington will forever be the OG tank commander for this very reason
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Post#932 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:31 pm

Capn'O wrote:Melo did click with Fisher for whatever reason.


Because he knew he could run right over his fake stoic/mute *ss? :D
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Post#933 » by El Poochio » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:32 pm

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El Poochio wrote:Its hard to see smart people like Dolan PJax Mills Houston and whoever is involved in front office to not realize what has been wrong with Knicks for past decades, not being bad enough, I genuinely think Tank Job could have been priority without doing blatantly, just like the last one we did, they are the New York Knicks, not Sixers, one of the biggest and most valuable franchises, they need to keep a face on, team not competing due to injuries is a better excuse

Trading Rolo was part of that conspiracy too maybe, and let Rose miss some games :o

Team started to fade (initiation of the master plan) as soon as Phil ended his relationship with Jeanie (commitment to the cause), coincidence? Or just another piece of the long term puzzle
I'm going to open my BS notebook and put more BS into it. Let's see, Phil actually has a systematic (triangle) and elaborate scheme (media interviews) of tanking this season. It's beautiful to watch. Hire Jeff who's coaching philosophy is opposite to him (misdirection) and then non-challant gives Jeff authority to hire any assistants. But unknowingly traps him. How? Jeff looks like someone who like's to give back to his boss, easy way to do that to Phil is hire his buddy Rambis.

Aha! Phil's winking at us the moment a paparazzi snap that stolen photo of them (Phil, Mills and Jeff) coming out of a restaurant.

The sabotage is clear (Rambis) the moment Jeff hire that goon. The pieces then collapse in its place; Noah injury in preseason, Rose trial and consequently missing practice (great excuse to not form a defensive scheme), pour money into the future assistant coach Lance Thomas, Phil already planted Sasha last season and he accomplished his mission in seducing KP.

So why do all this to tarnish his rep? Phil believes in the Basketball Gods. And the Bball gods hate tanking. It taints the sport. No sane coach or player or anyone involved in bball will confess to tanking in fear of divine retribution.

Phil and the Knicks are now in the process of tanking but in disguise of the team self destructing. Phil made a choice. It was cemented when e broke up with Jeanie. Phil has one goal in mind now. And Lord have mercy, it will be both the most ugly and beautiful basketball that will ever grace the court. KP is a mere glimpse of that bball heaven. PJax and his ring studded fingers will opened the bball heavenly gates to NY


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Post#934 » by NewEra » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:33 pm

Damas wrote:
NewEra wrote:Same ole Melo, but he drops 40 tomorrow and everybody loves him again.


Before or after he lets the other team score on him with ease and we lose in a nice blow out fashion? Chucking to get your 40 and playing putrid defence isn't going to get us to the playoffs.


Nah he drops a non chucking efficient 40 in a win and everybody will love him again. This Melo drama/ Fire the coach/ Fire the GM/ Tank the season...blah blah blah happens every year. It's getting old.

Team goes on a win streak however, and KP is suddenly a superstar (which he is by far not), Melo is a savior, Rose is back, and they all should make the all star team, make a run at Cleveland blah blah blah.
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Post#935 » by CJackson » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:36 pm

El Poochio wrote:
ozwizard8 wrote:
El Poochio wrote:Melo haters gonna be lost for words when his leadership leads us to 10th pick and a young guard to ride the Unicorn for the next 15 years

If we need leader for tanking process we can use ****. Calderon would help too but ...


Calderon or a shİtter like Vujashİt doesnt worth wearing the Knicks jersey sorry, someone who is a world beater in spurts but mostly inconsistent and getting "injured" is a better cover, we are not Heat we have fans and Sixers is no different than a Dleague team, you need stealth tank to stroll in New York City


Bring back Mardy Collins to run the team
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Post#936 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:38 pm

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Post#937 » by Deeeez Knicks » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:41 pm

Mecca wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
ozwizard8 wrote:If we need leader for tanking process we can use ****. Calderon would help too but ...


Calderon or a shİtter like Vujashİt doesnt worth wearing the Knicks jersey sorry, someone who is a world beater in spurts but mostly inconsistent and getting "injured" is a better cover, we are not Heat we have fans and Sixers is no different than a Dleague team, you need stealth tank to stroll in New York City


Al Harrington will forever be the OG tank commander for this very reason


We didn't tank right back then though. We had too many vets and won just enough games to miss out on the top players.
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Post#938 » by Johnny Hoops » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:42 pm

Lotsix wrote:ppl really defending melo? bro how many wide open uncontested, not within 4 feet 3s did he allow? no effort bum, get him the hell away from KP, ship him to CLEV,LAC,GSW,HOU,SAS,IDGAF I am done with this guy, Name me one other teams best player that never gives any effort on D



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Post#939 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:46 pm

This just in. On the TV show Legends Of The NBA, George Gervin said Melo's defensive effort is embarrassing.
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Post#940 » by delvec19 » Tue Jan 3, 2017 8:46 pm

Thank god for the Giants (even though it may be over soon) and Seton Hall Basketball looks pretty decent right now.

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