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Official Melo Trade Thread: WOJ BOMB UPDATE PG 21: Will Waive NTC for HOU and CLE

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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: WOJ BOMB UPDATE PG 21: Will Waive NTC for HOU and CLE 

Post#921 » by Greenie » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:14 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:Three players that like to massage the basketball is not gonna work out favorably. harden wasn't always the man on his teams, so it might work with him.

CP3 gonna get injured, Harden will pick the worst moment to no show and Melo will be inefficient as normal.

I ain't really feeling it...

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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: WOJ BOMB UPDATE PG 21: Will Waive NTC for HOU and CLE 

Post#922 » by dablackprodigy » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:16 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:New Melo Alert.




Look at his HAIR?!! Don't trade him everyone knows when a black man aint get a haircut in a while he's FOCUSED
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Post#923 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:17 pm

Z-Bo jumps off the ground higher than melo now.
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: WOJ BOMB UPDATE PG 21: Will Waive NTC for HOU and CLE 

Post#924 » by blueNorange » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:17 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:New Melo Alert.



loll he's moving so slow :rofl:
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Post#925 » by Greenie » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:17 pm

Hill is gone.
We bout to be trashhhhhhh.
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Post#926 » by NoLayupRule » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:18 pm

VirginiaKnickFan wrote:http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/07/03/schmeelk-carmelo-anthony-trade-teams/

What seemed impossible just a couple weeks ago might now be possible: The Knicks might actually be able to find a landing spot for Carmelo Anthony.

The great and powerful Adrian Wojnarowski, now with ESPN, reported Sunday that Anthony would be willing to accept a trade to either the Cleveland Cavaliers or Houston Rockets.

Unfortunately for the Knicks, neither the Rockets nor the Cavaliers have anything resembling the assets the Knicks desire. The Rockets understandably want to unload the contract of Ryan Anderson, who would play a role similar to Anthony in Mike D’Antoni’s offense. Anderson has three years and $61.3 million left on his contract, making him more of a toxic asset than someone desirable.

The Cavaliers have only one truly tradable asset: Kevin Love. The contracts and skill-sets of Tristan Thompson, J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert make them all undesirable. It does not appear the Cavaliers want to deal Love for Anthony, but even if they did, the three years and $70 million left on Love’s deal don’t exactly make him attractive for a rebuilding team such as the Knicks.

It means the Knicks are going to have to find a third team to get involved in the process to get either one of these trades done. New York’s only goal should be to acquire young players or draft picks in any deal. If they have to take on a contract of two or fewer seasons to also get those types of assets, it is worth the bang for the buck. The Knicks are going to have to get creative, and it won’t be easy. Here are some teams who could get in the mix to make a trade like that happen:

Portland Trail Blazers: I saw Moke Hamilton of Basketball Insiders first mention the Blazers, and it makes sense. They are in luxury-cap hell with $132 million committed to players this season. If the Blazers are willing to take on Anderson’s deal, the Knicks could take back two of their bad contracts — some combination of Maurice Harkless and either Evan Turner or Allen Crabbe — to alleviate that stress. Since the Knicks would be taking such a huge salary dump (Harkless has three years, $30 million remaining, Turner three years, $53 million and Crabbe three years, $56 million), the Blazers would have to really sweeten the pot with a future draft pick and another young asset. The Lakers had to trade D’Angelo Russell to dump Timofey Mozgov. Portland might not agree to a package that strong, but the Knicks could at least inquire. You might be able to find a deal here somewhere, but the Knicks should be leery of taking on a big-money, three-year deal since it would negatively affect their cap for so long. They need something substantial back.

Boston Celtics: Boston becomes interesting again whether or not they lose out Gordon Hayward. They still have a ton of assets. They already lost out on Paul George and Jimmy Butler, which would theoretically make them open to trying to add another star to the team in an attempt to come out of the Eastern Conference this season. The only way the Celtics would be interested in Anthony directly is if Hayward re-signs with the Jazz. With George and Butler already moved, there would be no shooters left of interest to the Celtics. The return would not be huge. The Knicks would hope for Jae Crowder and one of the protected or late first-round picks the Celtics have. Boston can also just take Anthony into their space.

If the Celtics land Hayward, they might want to re-engage for a chance to land Love. If the Cavs are open to an Anthony-for-Love swap, a three-way deal could get done. The Cavs would receive Anthony and another player they desire from the Celtics – someone from the group of Marcus Smart, Avery Bradley and Crowder. The Celtics would get Love, and the Knicks would get some kind of combination of future picks and young players from the Celtics. If Boston still wants Love and the Cavs decide they prefer Anthony to him, this could work.

Phoenix Suns: This is something a few of my Twitter followers brought up to me. I don’t think it makes sense for the Suns, but if they are that desperate to move one of their guards — Eric Bledsoe or Brandon Knight — it could work. In this deal, the Cavs would once again have to be willing to swap Love for Anthony. The Suns would take on Love’s deal, while the Knicks would take back either Bledsoe or Knight. New York would also try to get a future pick from the Suns, and the Cavs could try to get another role player to assist a possible championship run. If I’m the Suns, I want to rebuild and wouldn’t do this . But it depends on the front office.

As you can see, the Knicks are still going to be very hard-pressed to find a taker for Anthony. His contract, no-trade clause, trade kicker and deteriorating defense and athleticism make him very hard to move.


there really isnt much here but what the hell, lets entertain it for a second



Portland and cleveland and NY -

Clev keeps love. instead they send out contracts and take back contracts

Portland sheds salary and has to sweeten the pot to do so

NY gets players and some salary but also picks



Clev trades:
JR Smiff, Sumpert, Frye, Jefferson, 2022 1st round pick top 3 protected
Clev gets:
Melo, Evan Turner


Portland trades:
Crabbe, Turner, Harkless, Caleb Swanigan, Zach Collins, 2018 1st round pick top 10 protected
Portland gets:
JR Smiff, Shumpert, Jefferson, O'Quinn, Kuzminskis

NY Trades:
Melo, KOQ, Kuzminskis

NY gets:
Frye, Crabbe, Harkless, Collins, Swanigan, clev 2022 pick, portland 2018 pick



Clev gets Turner, who could work well, and Melo without giving up anything of value beyond a future pick

Portland sheds Turner, Harkless and Carbbe salary. thats massive for them. It costs them their pick next year and their expendables from this draft.

NY moves melo, adds a lot of salary, but gets much younger and more promising and also gets 2 picks


I think Colins might be the sticking point for Portland in which case Id keep KOQ and let them keep colins and make the pick top 5 protected
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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: WOJ BOMB UPDATE PG 21: Will Waive NTC for HOU and CLE 

Post#927 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:18 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:Z-Bo jumps off the ground higher than melo now.


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Re: Official Melo Trade Thread: WOJ BOMB UPDATE PG 21: Will Waive NTC for HOU and CLE 

Post#928 » by GEOLINK » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:18 pm

dablackprodigy wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:New Melo Alert.




Look at his HAIR?!! Don't trade him everyone knows when a black man aint get a haircut in a while he's FOCUSED

Melo on his JAY Z Blueprint 3 hair era.
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Post#929 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:18 pm

Greenie wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Three players that like to massage the basketball is not gonna work out favorably. harden wasn't always the man on his teams, so it might work with him.

CP3 gonna get injured, Harden will pick the worst moment to no show and Melo will be inefficient as normal.

I ain't really feeling it...

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As long as we don't take back ridiculous deals, I honestly don't care. but when they come up short if this happens, you know who is gonna get blamed for it. :lol:
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Post#930 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:18 pm

Greenie wrote:Hill is gone.
We bout to be trashhhhhhh.


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Post#931 » by Greenie » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:19 pm

Melo was never a leaper. He was quick as all hell, but not a jump out the building type of guy.
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Post#932 » by Fat » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:19 pm

Greenie wrote:
ozwizard8 wrote:
Nyk_Fatboy wrote:
3 dudes who want the ball in their hand. the only way it works is if melo is willing to play the role he did on the olympics i dont like it though especially not them 3 defensively. cavs make the most sense to me out of the 2

Cavs make more sense for sure.

CP3-Harden duo doesnt make sense imo. Two bad defenders for backcourt. They're also operating at similar spots.
Top p&r plays.

Irving-Lebron duo is better. They have one good defender. Irving is great scorer. Lebron has some post offense.

3 way trade makes sense for us too.
Send Melo to Cavs, Love to 3rd team and young players or picks to Knicks.

Paul is a very good defensive player.


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Post#933 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:19 pm

Melo + cp3 + harden

Melo + lebron + kyriee

Which big 3 is better?
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Post#934 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:19 pm

blueNorange wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:New Melo Alert.



loll he's moving so slow :rofl:

Copeland is upset by this.
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Post#935 » by GEOLINK » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:20 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Melo + cp3 + harden

Melo + lebron + kyriee

Which big 3 is better?

CAVS easily.
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Post#936 » by islanders11040 » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:20 pm

Greenie wrote:Hill is gone.
We bout to be trashhhhhhh.

ur just saying what assume right? nothing official yet?
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Post#937 » by egelband » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:20 pm

GEOLINK wrote:
Nyk_Fatboy wrote:washington and baltimore hoods got beef with each other i bet thats one reason the wizards arent on melos list despite him being from baltimore

What a story it would be for Carmelo to bring those cities together though?

Baltimore and D.C. Unite in agreement that Melo is more of a Robin than a Batman. The problem, they agree, is he considers himself to be a Batman.
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Post#938 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:21 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Melo + cp3 + harden

Melo + lebron + kyriee

Which big 3 is better?


Melo + lebron + kyrie
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Post#939 » by Greenie » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:21 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:
Greenie wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:Three players that like to massage the basketball is not gonna work out favorably. harden wasn't always the man on his teams, so it might work with him.

CP3 gonna get injured, Harden will pick the worst moment to no show and Melo will be inefficient as normal.

I ain't really feeling it...

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As long as we don't take back ridiculous deals, I honestly don't care. but when they come up short if this happens, you know who is gonna get blamed for it. :lol:



This is why I said I like what Mills is doing. We want to move him, but we are not here for the shenanigans of taking back garbage. Dude has a year left. It's not that serious for us. These other teams trying to win need to understand that.
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Post#940 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Jul 3, 2017 8:21 pm

Greenie wrote:Melo was never a leaper. He was quick as all hell, but not a jump out the building type of guy.

fat guys usually can't jump very high
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