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Post#921 » by HEZI » Tue Jun 9, 2020 5:01 am

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HEZI wrote:Another great read

https://elitesportsny.com/2020/06/04/new-york-knicks-draft-profile-north-carolina-pg-cole-anthony/

Whether it be poor management or lackluster performance on the court, the New York Knicks have been mired in a tumultuous playoff slump over the past several seasons.Not only does the team lack a formidable attack on either end of the court, but a glaring identity crisis has consumed the team in recent years, further pressing the narrative that the Knicks can’t get over the hump.
Cole Anthony may just be the tenacious young spurt that the Knicks have been searching for. There may be concerns over picking a ball-dominant guard just one year after selecting RJ Barrett, but drafting a pass-first point guard and slotting them into a lineup that places in the bottom of the league in offensive efficiency isn’t the move. Taking a chance on Anthony’s raw ability as a scorer and giving the team an identity will be a surefire way to inject hope back into the franchise.

Last year’s hopes and dreams of landing Duke product Zion Williamson were all for naught, but greener pastures look to be on the horizon in the 2020 NBA Draft. Cole Anthony has all the tools to change the tide of the franchise and become the star Knicks fans have been yearning for.


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Was it the Zion line? :lol:

There's no denying Cole got more star potential than Brickillian "Mediocre" Hayes

Speaking of Zion, it's sad he might never be healthy to make it in the NBA. Dude looks extra chubby lately



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Post#922 » by 8516knicks » Tue Jun 9, 2020 5:59 am

Cole Anthony feels like this years Knox. There's got to be a reason his slid down the lottery totem pole.
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Post#924 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Jun 9, 2020 12:10 pm

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Hayes isn't the only one who has room to improve. He's just the one who has the most improving to do imo. Why take him?


But every single player will either improve a lot or a little or not at all and there's no way to know which ones will or won't so not sure how any of us can sit on here and talk like we have facts on which ones will and won't make it in the NBA because that's impossible for any of us to know. If any of us could then we could be making millions as the best GM to ever be a GM in the NBA. Hayes could become a star in the NBA and we would never know and that goes for Cole and Hali and every other kid taking that leap.

Sorry but i had to get that off my chest cause it just bothers the crap out of me when people talk in facts when it's impossible to have those facts. I can breath now... :lol:


Ok then, lock the thread up it serves no purpose to further discuss prospects because you know every single player will improve a lot a little or not at all and we don't know who that will be so there is nothing really to discuss. :lol:

I know you aren't new here so you should know by now how intense It gets here. This is nothing, it used to be way more live than this. Good times!


I know how intense it can get on here, all i was saying is that talking with facts when nobody has facts annoys me, but i get that this all all about debating with each other about what your opinions are on whatever topic it is we're talking about. Maybe people should use more IMO's instead of saying things that would mean they can somehow see the future.

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Post#926 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jun 9, 2020 1:19 pm

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Trust me I watched that video 10 times already. It gives me all types of tingles.

But Hayes is simply more advanced offensively than frank in terms of every category outside of spot up shooting.

Hayes has a floater, he has a step back jumper, he gets into the paint more consistently then Frank. Hayes was charged with more with creation and playmaking while frank before he was drafted was more of that glue type player. Frank value also comes on the defensive end being able to guard multiple positions and be switchable nearly 1-5.

Frank is very important to this team but Hayes is much more advanced at his age then Frank has ever been in terms of scoring and passing.


man, frank was starting to go in fools mouths as the season progressed. he really needed the rest of this year with PT to make a statement.

this WAS year 3. next season is 4 and even if he's solid, i don't see them putting long-term money into him.


I hoping Kenny Atkinson is the coach. Dude speaks volumes about Frank. And I think he would get him to another level. Even if frank is a super glue guy I do think its important to have some consistency with the roster. Right now the only two other guys I see a for certain are RJ and Mitch. If you can get him to a reasonable deal especially with the cap going down. It might make sense as when the cap starts to shoot up role players will be more expensive.


to the choir you preach. you know i love and believe in this kid.
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Post#927 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Jun 9, 2020 1:43 pm

HEZI wrote:Another great read

https://elitesportsny.com/2020/06/04/new-york-knicks-draft-profile-north-carolina-pg-cole-anthony/

Whether it be poor management or lackluster performance on the court, the New York Knicks have been mired in a tumultuous playoff slump over the past several seasons.Not only does the team lack a formidable attack on either end of the court, but a glaring identity crisis has consumed the team in recent years, further pressing the narrative that the Knicks can’t get over the hump.
Cole Anthony may just be the tenacious young spurt that the Knicks have been searching for. There may be concerns over picking a ball-dominant guard just one year after selecting RJ Barrett, but drafting a pass-first point guard and slotting them into a lineup that places in the bottom of the league in offensive efficiency isn’t the move. Taking a chance on Anthony’s raw ability as a scorer and giving the team an identity will be a surefire way to inject hope back into the franchise.

Last year’s hopes and dreams of landing Duke product Zion Williamson were all for naught, but greener pastures look to be on the horizon in the 2020 NBA Draft. Cole Anthony has all the tools to change the tide of the franchise and become the star Knicks fans have been yearning for.


:nod:


But is he what the team needs when their built and ready to contend for the playoffs and more is the question? Right now we only have 2 starting level players on the team and they both still have question marks with their games as well in RJ and Mitch. I want a PG that actually plays PG the way a winning team needs their PG to play when we are ready to win, not a guy that can play the PG spot for us when we're not even in the middle of a rebuild yet cause we're so far away still. Now i do think Cole could become that player but that's up to him if he'll be able to change his game from being a scoring PG to a PG that will set the offense up and make the right passes instead of always looking to score when we are a built team that needs an actual PG. I sure hope so if we draft him but seems like Ball, Hali and Hayes are much closer to that as of now.
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Post#928 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Jun 9, 2020 1:46 pm

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man, frank was starting to go in fools mouths as the season progressed. he really needed the rest of this year with PT to make a statement.

this WAS year 3. next season is 4 and even if he's solid, i don't see them putting long-term money into him.


I hoping Kenny Atkinson is the coach. Dude speaks volumes about Frank. And I think he would get him to another level. Even if frank is a super glue guy I do think its important to have some consistency with the roster. Right now the only two other guys I see a for certain are RJ and Mitch. If you can get him to a reasonable deal especially with the cap going down. It might make sense as when the cap starts to shoot up role players will be more expensive.


to the choir you preach. you know i love and believe in this kid.


I'm also on the keep Frank and let him keep growing with the Knicks team. I've also fully switched to the Kenny Atkinson and Mike Miller combo for HC and top assistant for the Knicks. Thibs scares the crap out of me and this team is way too far away to need a HC like THibs IMO.
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Post#929 » by moocow007 » Tue Jun 9, 2020 2:10 pm

8516knicks wrote:Cole Anthony feels like this years Knox. There's got to be a reason his slid down the lottery totem pole.


The reasons he slid down the lottery totem pole.

1. He was injured and spent part of the year trying to play himself back into it.
2. He didn't look as explosive as hyped coming out of HS. Was it just the fluff that most HS "phenoms" come with or was it the injury? IMO it was both.
3. He is best when he's got his head down going to the basket looking for his own. It's always been his best skill so it's not something that was somehow related to the injury. He is what he is. His selling card coming out of HS was a scoring point that was tough and able to board and just carry the load.
4. A 6'3" shoot first point guard that doesn't shoot well, was inefficient and couldn't show that he was able to consistently get by opposing college defenders (again, some NOT all was due to injury) raises some red flags.

Right now, he is this drafts Dennis Smith Jr. Smith was a similar type of PG (Smith was more explosive). Smith was also coming off of injury (Smith's injury was more serious). The hope is that if the Knicks do draft Cole Anthony that he's able to adjust to the game mentally better than Dennis Smith has. Cole Anthony should so I'm not so worried about that part.

My concern would be what type of leader he'd be for this team. I'm dubious about his ability to make others better and I'm dubious about his ability to create enough for himself at the NBA level to offset his inability to make others better. I've said this before, he is a shoot first PG in the line of Stephon Marbury. The problem is, he's not Stephon Marbury from a pure talent standpoint with respect to getting his own. He may not be as nutty as Marbs but he's also not near as talented.
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Post#930 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jun 9, 2020 2:24 pm

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8516knicks wrote:Cole Anthony feels like this years Knox. There's got to be a reason his slid down the lottery totem pole.


The reasons he slid down the lottery totem pole.

1. He was injured and spent part of the year trying to play himself back into it.
2. He didn't look as explosive as hyped coming out of HS. Was it just the fluff that most HS "phenoms" come with or was it the injury? IMO it was both.
3. He is best when he's got his head down going to the basket looking for his own. It's always been his best skill so it's not something that was somehow related to the injury. He is what he is. His selling card coming out of HS was a scoring point that was tough and able to board and just carry the load.
4. A 6'3" shoot first point guard that doesn't shoot well, was inefficient and couldn't show that he was able to consistently get by opposing college defenders (again, some NOT all was due to injury) raises some red flags.

Right now, he is this drafts Dennis Smith Jr. Smith was a similar type of PG (Smith was more explosive). Smith was also coming off of injury (Smith's injury was more serious). The hope is that if the Knicks do draft Cole Anthony that he's able to adjust to the game mentally better than Dennis Smith has.


Yeah DSJ was def more explosive (and probably had more PG skills/feel for the game). The one thing I do believe Cole has going for him is even through a tough season at UNC you don't see any reports about Cole quitting on the team or his work ethic. Those were some of my concerns with DSJ coming out of NC State.

I think Cole has a good head on his shoulders especially with a father that played in the league.

But I just don't think you can ultimately make him something he is not. He is a high volume low eff scoring guard. It has its place in the NBA but I just think there are better options.
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Post#931 » by RHODEY » Tue Jun 9, 2020 2:29 pm

8516knicks wrote:Cole Anthony feels like this years Knox. There's got to be a reason his slid down the lottery totem pole.


He played poorly -bad play making and inefficient scoring. DJR 2.0...I would stay away
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Post#932 » by RHODEY » Tue Jun 9, 2020 2:33 pm

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8516knicks wrote:Cole Anthony feels like this years Knox. There's got to be a reason his slid down the lottery totem pole.


The reasons he slid down the lottery totem pole.

1. He was injured and spent part of the year trying to play himself back into it.
2. He didn't look as explosive as hyped coming out of HS. Was it just the fluff that most HS "phenoms" come with or was it the injury? IMO it was both.
3. He is best when he's got his head down going to the basket looking for his own. It's always been his best skill so it's not something that was somehow related to the injury. He is what he is. His selling card coming out of HS was a scoring point that was tough and able to board and just carry the load.
4. A 6'3" shoot first point guard that doesn't shoot well, was inefficient and couldn't show that he was able to consistently get by opposing college defenders (again, some NOT all was due to injury) raises some red flags.

Right now, he is this drafts Dennis Smith Jr. Smith was a similar type of PG (Smith was more explosive). Smith was also coming off of injury (Smith's injury was more serious). The hope is that if the Knicks do draft Cole Anthony that he's able to adjust to the game mentally better than Dennis Smith has. Cole Anthony should so I'm not so worried about that part.

My concern would be what type of leader he'd be for this team. I'm dubious about his ability to make others better and I'm dubious about his ability to create enough for himself at the NBA level to offset his inability to make others better. I've said this before, he is a shoot first PG in the line of Stephon Marbury. The problem is, he's not Stephon Marbury from a pure talent standpoint with respect to getting his own. He may not be as nutty as Marbs but he's also not near as talented.


Forget Marbs, Is he any more talented than DSJ?
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Post#933 » by malik959 » Tue Jun 9, 2020 2:35 pm

HEZI wrote:Another great read

https://elitesportsny.com/2020/06/04/new-york-knicks-draft-profile-north-carolina-pg-cole-anthony/

Whether it be poor management or lackluster performance on the court, the New York Knicks have been mired in a tumultuous playoff slump over the past several seasons.Not only does the team lack a formidable attack on either end of the court, but a glaring identity crisis has consumed the team in recent years, further pressing the narrative that the Knicks can’t get over the hump.
Cole Anthony may just be the tenacious young spurt that the Knicks have been searching for. There may be concerns over picking a ball-dominant guard just one year after selecting RJ Barrett, but drafting a pass-first point guard and slotting them into a lineup that places in the bottom of the league in offensive efficiency isn’t the move. Taking a chance on Anthony’s raw ability as a scorer and giving the team an identity will be a surefire way to inject hope back into the franchise.

Last year’s hopes and dreams of landing Duke product Zion Williamson were all for naught, but greener pastures look to be on the horizon in the 2020 NBA Draft. Cole Anthony has all the tools to change the tide of the franchise and become the star Knicks fans have been yearning for.


:nod:

Man what did anyone expect Cole to do with this sorry North Carolina team? Bacot was garbage, he is a slow footed big man that can't do anything outside of put backs. He shot less than 50% in the key, and basically played volleyball with himself under the rim. Leaky black shot 35% from the field and 25% from the three. Brandon Robinson was purified garbage, very inefficient and inconsistent. Brooks was the only other player that could be reliable and that's not saying much. The team was pure garbage.

When was the last time we had a point guard we could rely on to score? Lin? Do you remember how MSG reacted to him? Having a guard that can score in MSG is like the second coming of Jesus where New York becomes the talk in a positive way. Cole has the ability to create for himself and he's able to do it from all areas on the court. Giving him reliable players around him (Barrett/ Woods/Mitchell) helps to put him in a position to where he can put the weight on his fellow teammates. A Cole/Robinson connection would be the best thing sense sliced bread because unlike having Payton/Frank, Cole is a threat from outside so teams can not back off and just play Robinson. A Cole/Woods connection would be great too because a pick and pop option is possible unlike Payton/Randle where the ONLY option is to go to the hoops. Personally I wouldn't mind a Cole/Frank back court with RJ at the 3, but Bullock would work well too.

Now don't get me wrong I love Hayes and Haliburton, Haliburton being the safe bet, but are we as fans willing to wait another 3-4 years on Hayes? People on this board would call him a bust on the first week because he wont be good enough to push Frank out of the starting seat. Cole to me, although I don't feel like he will be that "Dame, Fransis, Marbury, B. Davis, Walls level of a star, I do see him as a Lowry, Conley, Murray level player. A guy that may not be that All Star player, but plays close to that level. Someone that you don't cringe when he goes to take an outside shot, someone that your not hollering "SHOOT THE DAMN BALL!" when he's open at the top of key.

The thing I like most about Cole is his confidence to take over when needed. He's caught a lot of flak for the same reasons Melo did when he was here. Get the ball with 2 seconds left on the clock after everyone else has failed and expect him to do something with the ball. We talk about efficiency and numbers, but fail to observe a players surroundings, oh player A doesn't pass the ball to player B who only makes 25% of the 10 shots he takes. Cole is my pick and will forever be my pick, if we don't get him I feel (like Donovan Mitchell or SGA) we will regret not picking him up.
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Post#934 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jun 9, 2020 2:53 pm

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HEZI wrote:Another great read

https://elitesportsny.com/2020/06/04/new-york-knicks-draft-profile-north-carolina-pg-cole-anthony/

Whether it be poor management or lackluster performance on the court, the New York Knicks have been mired in a tumultuous playoff slump over the past several seasons.Not only does the team lack a formidable attack on either end of the court, but a glaring identity crisis has consumed the team in recent years, further pressing the narrative that the Knicks can’t get over the hump.
Cole Anthony may just be the tenacious young spurt that the Knicks have been searching for. There may be concerns over picking a ball-dominant guard just one year after selecting RJ Barrett, but drafting a pass-first point guard and slotting them into a lineup that places in the bottom of the league in offensive efficiency isn’t the move. Taking a chance on Anthony’s raw ability as a scorer and giving the team an identity will be a surefire way to inject hope back into the franchise.

Last year’s hopes and dreams of landing Duke product Zion Williamson were all for naught, but greener pastures look to be on the horizon in the 2020 NBA Draft. Cole Anthony has all the tools to change the tide of the franchise and become the star Knicks fans have been yearning for.


:nod:

Man what did anyone expect Cole to do with this sorry North Carolina team? Bacot was garbage, he is a slow footed big man that can't do anything outside of put backs. He shot less than 50% in the key, and basically played volleyball with himself under the rim. Leaky black shot 35% from the field and 25% from the three. Brandon Robinson was purified garbage, very inefficient and inconsistent. Brooks was the only other player that could be reliable and that's not saying much. The team was pure garbage.

When was the last time we had a point guard we could rely on to score? Lin? Do you remember how MSG reacted to him? Having a guard that can score in MSG is like the second coming of Jesus where New York becomes the talk in a positive way. Cole has the ability to create for himself and he's able to do it from all areas on the court. Giving him reliable players around him (Barrett/ Woods/Mitchell) helps to put him in a position to where he can put the weight on his fellow teammates. A Cole/Robinson connection would be the best thing sense sliced bread because unlike having Payton/Frank, Cole is a threat from outside so teams can not back off and just play Robinson. A Cole/Woods connection would be great too because a pick and pop option is possible unlike Payton/Randle where the ONLY option is to go to the hoops. Personally I wouldn't mind a Cole/Frank back court with RJ at the 3, but Bullock would work well too.

Now don't get me wrong I love Hayes and Haliburton, Haliburton being the safe bet, but are we as fans willing to wait another 3-4 years on Hayes? People on this board would call him a bust on the first week because he wont be good enough to push Frank out of the starting seat. Cole to me, although I don't feel like he will be that "Dame, Fransis, Marbury, B. Davis, Walls level of a star, I do see him as a Lowry, Conley, Murray level player. A guy that may not be that All Star player, but plays close to that level. Someone that you don't cringe when he goes to take an outside shot, someone that your not hollering "SHOOT THE DAMN BALL!" when he's open at the top of key.

The thing I like most about Cole is his confidence to take over when needed. He's caught a lot of flak for the same reasons Melo did when he was here. Get the ball with 2 seconds left on the clock after everyone else has failed and expect him to do something with the ball. We talk about efficiency and numbers, but fail to observe a players surroundings, oh player A doesn't pass the ball to player B who only makes 25% of the 10 shots he takes. Cole is my pick and will forever be my pick, if we don't get him I feel (like Donovan Mitchell or SGA) we will regret not picking him up.


i hear all that. but cole's shooting was abysmal. not a good look for someone whose biggest draw is his ability to "get his."
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Post#936 » by aq_ua » Tue Jun 9, 2020 3:34 pm

I know we’ve got our hearts set on a point guard in the lottery...but... Devin Vassell anyone? Seems like the perfect combination of size, shooting, creativity and defense at the two guard slot. Rather than try to pick from the flawed point guard prospects, seems we would be better off picking up a prototypical shooting guard that would fit nicely with RJ instead.
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Post#937 » by King of Canada » Tue Jun 9, 2020 3:44 pm

I think this draft is going to be a bit of a crap shoot, with limited workouts and no tourney to scout. Smart teams are going to walk away with some draft steals, even into the second round.
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Post#938 » by HEZI » Tue Jun 9, 2020 3:58 pm

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HEZI wrote:Another great read

https://elitesportsny.com/2020/06/04/new-york-knicks-draft-profile-north-carolina-pg-cole-anthony/

Whether it be poor management or lackluster performance on the court, the New York Knicks have been mired in a tumultuous playoff slump over the past several seasons.Not only does the team lack a formidable attack on either end of the court, but a glaring identity crisis has consumed the team in recent years, further pressing the narrative that the Knicks can’t get over the hump.
Cole Anthony may just be the tenacious young spurt that the Knicks have been searching for. There may be concerns over picking a ball-dominant guard just one year after selecting RJ Barrett, but drafting a pass-first point guard and slotting them into a lineup that places in the bottom of the league in offensive efficiency isn’t the move. Taking a chance on Anthony’s raw ability as a scorer and giving the team an identity will be a surefire way to inject hope back into the franchise.

Last year’s hopes and dreams of landing Duke product Zion Williamson were all for naught, but greener pastures look to be on the horizon in the 2020 NBA Draft. Cole Anthony has all the tools to change the tide of the franchise and become the star Knicks fans have been yearning for.


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But is he what the team needs when their built and ready to contend for the playoffs and more is the question? Right now we only have 2 starting level players on the team and they both still have question marks with their games as well in RJ and Mitch. I want a PG that actually plays PG the way a winning team needs their PG to play when we are ready to win, not a guy that can play the PG spot for us when we're not even in the middle of a rebuild yet cause we're so far away still. Now i do think Cole could become that player but that's up to him if he'll be able to change his game from being a scoring PG to a PG that will set the offense up and make the right passes instead of always looking to score when we are a built team that needs an actual PG. I sure hope so if we draft him but seems like Ball, Hali and Hayes are much closer to that as of now.


As long as the Kncks are among the worst shooting teams in the league they aren't making the playoffs. If RJ and Robinson are our two starters, adding more dudes who struggle with shooting only adds to our current weakness, it doesn't solve it.

Change his game? For what? If anybody needs to change their game it's the two starters you just mentioned. RJ plays like a shorter Julius Randle and Robinson hasn't attempted a jumper in his entire NBA career nor has he shown any skills with the ball other than dunking.
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Post#939 » by HEZI » Tue Jun 9, 2020 4:05 pm

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HEZI wrote:Another great read

https://elitesportsny.com/2020/06/04/new-york-knicks-draft-profile-north-carolina-pg-cole-anthony/

Whether it be poor management or lackluster performance on the court, the New York Knicks have been mired in a tumultuous playoff slump over the past several seasons.Not only does the team lack a formidable attack on either end of the court, but a glaring identity crisis has consumed the team in recent years, further pressing the narrative that the Knicks can’t get over the hump.
Cole Anthony may just be the tenacious young spurt that the Knicks have been searching for. There may be concerns over picking a ball-dominant guard just one year after selecting RJ Barrett, but drafting a pass-first point guard and slotting them into a lineup that places in the bottom of the league in offensive efficiency isn’t the move. Taking a chance on Anthony’s raw ability as a scorer and giving the team an identity will be a surefire way to inject hope back into the franchise.

Last year’s hopes and dreams of landing Duke product Zion Williamson were all for naught, but greener pastures look to be on the horizon in the 2020 NBA Draft. Cole Anthony has all the tools to change the tide of the franchise and become the star Knicks fans have been yearning for.


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Man what did anyone expect Cole to do with this sorry North Carolina team? Bacot was garbage, he is a slow footed big man that can't do anything outside of put backs. He shot less than 50% in the key, and basically played volleyball with himself under the rim. Leaky black shot 35% from the field and 25% from the three. Brandon Robinson was purified garbage, very inefficient and inconsistent. Brooks was the only other player that could be reliable and that's not saying much. The team was pure garbage.

When was the last time we had a point guard we could rely on to score? Lin? Do you remember how MSG reacted to him? Having a guard that can score in MSG is like the second coming of Jesus where New York becomes the talk in a positive way. Cole has the ability to create for himself and he's able to do it from all areas on the court. Giving him reliable players around him (Barrett/ Woods/Mitchell) helps to put him in a position to where he can put the weight on his fellow teammates. A Cole/Robinson connection would be the best thing sense sliced bread because unlike having Payton/Frank, Cole is a threat from outside so teams can not back off and just play Robinson. A Cole/Woods connection would be great too because a pick and pop option is possible unlike Payton/Randle where the ONLY option is to go to the hoops. Personally I wouldn't mind a Cole/Frank back court with RJ at the 3, but Bullock would work well too.

Now don't get me wrong I love Hayes and Haliburton, Haliburton being the safe bet, but are we as fans willing to wait another 3-4 years on Hayes? People on this board would call him a bust on the first week because he wont be good enough to push Frank out of the starting seat. Cole to me, although I don't feel like he will be that "Dame, Fransis, Marbury, B. Davis, Walls level of a star, I do see him as a Lowry, Conley, Murray level player. A guy that may not be that All Star player, but plays close to that level. Someone that you don't cringe when he goes to take an outside shot, someone that your not hollering "SHOOT THE DAMN BALL!" when he's open at the top of key.

The thing I like most about Cole is his confidence to take over when needed. He's caught a lot of flak for the same reasons Melo did when he was here. Get the ball with 2 seconds left on the clock after everyone else has failed and expect him to do something with the ball. We talk about efficiency and numbers, but fail to observe a players surroundings, oh player A doesn't pass the ball to player B who only makes 25% of the 10 shots he takes. Cole is my pick and will forever be my pick, if we don't get him I feel (like Donovan Mitchell or SGA) we will regret not picking him up.


Good post! Cole and Wood offseason would be fantastic for us. Just need to dump Randle and Smith somewhere and clean up that rotation.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) -LOTTO 8/25 DRAFT 10/15! 

Post#940 » by Deeeez Knicks » Tue Jun 9, 2020 4:10 pm

aq_ua wrote:I know we’ve got our hearts set on a point guard in the lottery...but... Devin Vassell anyone? Seems like the perfect combination of size, shooting, creativity and defense at the two guard slot. Rather than try to pick from the flawed point guard prospects, seems we would be better off picking up a prototypical shooting guard that would fit nicely with RJ instead.


If Hayes and Haliburton are gone, I think Vassell makes a lot of sense and is high on my board. Could be a really nice SG/wing to pair next to RJ.

If we could somehow trade up with our other pick for Kira Lewis and come away with Vassell and Lewis that could be a nice draft.
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