BallSacBounce wrote:aq_ua wrote:BallSacBounce wrote:Direct and irrefutable.
In the biggest election so far in 2020, one in four South Koreans voted early, either by mail or at early voting stations. There was no evidence of fraud. However, South Korea relied on voting in embassies and consulates for its citizens living abroad, and found themselves at the mercy of local Covid-19 lockdowns, disenfranchising at least 8,000 registered voters.
In Poland, the lower house of Parliament voted to approve an all-mail ballot for this year’s presidential election, but the Senate rejected the move just days before the vote was due to take place in May, forcing the election to be delayed. It eventually took place seven weeks later, via a mix of in-person and mail voting.
In Europe, the United Kingdom and 15 of the 27 EU countries allow postal voting. Germany, which has a federal system comparable to the United States, dropped requirements to request absentee and mail ballots in 2008.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/06/coronavirus-election-safe-fair-391962
The South Korean one took place in April. The Poland one was scheduled for May as an all mail-in vote and delayed 7 weeks when that had resistance. The other example didn't cite an election. He's not talking about April and May when Covid was a much larger problem.
Anyway, even at its height you had these massive in person turnouts:
Globally, there’s been little indication that voters are sitting out 2020 elections due to the pandemic. While French voters shunned the first round of mayoral elections in March, the same week the World Health Organization declared the Covid-19 pandemic, voter turnout for South Korea's parliamentary election in April reached a 28-year high, at 67 percent. And in Singapore turnout hit 95 percent in its July 10 parliamentary election, despite the fact that the country was experiencing a second wave of infection.
Wear a mask, social distancing. Are these effective or not? If they are cover everyone up and distance them and let's get this party started. If not do away with these requirements. You have to pick a side here.
The South Korea timeframe is an interesting point to pick up on. The elections in South Korea were held a couple of months after it hit peak daily cases (1,000/day). The US hit its peak sometime in July (76,000/day) and the number hasn’t fallen the way it did in South Korea. There are still 30,000 to 40,000 new cases every day. Therefore, If anything, more stringent precautions seem in order.
Each country is finding a way through election during the pandemic that works within the confines and realities of their system.
Since you brought it up, for this General Election, Singapore set up specific voting times and prioritized at risk demographics.
It’s something a small population with efficient infrastructure can handle. The second wave in Singapore was actually limited to migrant worker dormitories, and cases outside these dormitories were in single digits. Which is to say, the situation is significantly more benign than in the US, but the election process was distinctly not normalized. To say that the world has not implemented significant safety measures and returned to normalcy is just patently false.
