Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) V - Elfrid Payton Sucks

[moocow007]

Chlamydia or gonorrhea?

Gored up the butt by a full grown adult male rhino or bitten in the nuts by a great white shark?

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Yo y’all cats are crazy
Who thinks of these things??

I have a very vivid imagination?

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[antmason15]

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Ok..its getting crazy. Maybe Adam Silver told the owners they have a cure for Covid?

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I think lot of players didn't want to move different state because of covid and its hard find place in 2 weeks. Plus if you are married and have kids that means different schools finding house in 2 weeks will be very hard annoying. Look at obi and quickley both from nyc don't need look for apartment can stay where there at for right and lock for apartment after season is over.

[moocow007]

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Ok..its getting crazy. Maybe Adam Silver told the owners they have a cure for Covid?

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I think lot of players didn't want to move different state because of covid and its hard find place in 2 weeks. Plus if you are married and have kids that means different schools finding house in 2 weeks will be very hard annoying. Look at obi and quickley both from nyc don't need look for apartment can stay where there at for right and lock for apartment after season is over.

But then the teams should have been able to sign these guys for less. Theres some crazy contracts going on. I can understand Rose being caught off guard cause I have.

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[K_ick_God]

John Wall or Russell Westbrook?

Elfrid Payton

lol

[K_ick_God]

I don’t really get Dwight to Philly but okay.

[moocow007]

If the Knicks are going to punt (again) i would just wait before I add more guys. Money running out fast and there are going to be some solid guys left hiding the "Will Work for Scraps" sign. Thats the value for a team that is punting. You get these guys for cheap and then move them before the deadline for assets.

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[jermsknicks]

John Wall or Russell Westbrook?

Chlamydia or gonorrhea?

What, you can "Live" with both.

[moocow007]

I don’t really get Dwight to Philly but okay.

My guess is he was set to return to the Lakers until Montrezl Harrell agreed to take the MLE then panicked and took the next closest offer. He could have gotten more. Philly got a great deal.

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[mpharris36]

If the Knicks are going to punt (again) i would just wait before I add more guys. Money running out fast and there are going to be some solid guys left hiding the "Will Work for Scraps" sign. Thats the value for a team that is punting. You get these guys for cheap and then move them before the deadline for assets.

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or teams want to add one or two more pieces but don't have the space and need to move a little salary and maybe we can get a few more smaller assets just to clear a few million.

[moocow007]

If the Knicks are going to punt (again) i would just wait before I add more guys. Money running out fast and there are going to be some solid guys left hiding the "Will Work for Scraps" sign. Thats the value for a team that is punting. You get these guys for cheap and then move them before the deadline for assets.

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or teams want to add one or two more pieces but don't have the space and need to move a little salary and maybe we can get a few more smaller assets just to clear a few million.

Yep.

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[snadler]

Surprised Burks and Noel who could play for a contender decide to a join a team to tank for a year

[NYG]

If the Knicks are going to punt (again) i would just wait before I add more guys. Money running out fast and there are going to be some solid guys left hiding the "Will Work for Scraps" sign. Thats the value for a team that is punting. You get these guys for cheap and then move them before the deadline for assets.

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or teams want to add one or two more pieces but don't have the space and need to move a little salary and maybe we can get a few more smaller assets just to clear a few million.

Yep.

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In another thread I mentioned we have this year's Payton (Payton), Ellington (Burks), Gibson (Noel) and we're just waiting on this year's Portis and Morris in Giles and Saric.

[Chanel Bomber]

Randle starting is way worse than Payton starting. If you keep those two separated it will force Payton to pass to other people other than Randle. I don’t think he’s a bad playmaker by any means, Thibs just need keep them apart. Or they really need to just trade Randle. Plus I can’t imagine Rose letting his new prized lottery pick waste away on the bench.

Hmm so you think it was a question of Elfrid being a ****head and not passing to other players as opposed to him just not having the ability? I actually don’t know myself

Absolutely, I don’t think you could average 7 assists a game without being at least decent playmaker. K-Dot found a stat that Payton passed to Randle like 19 times a game and the rest of the starters like 16 or 17 times. Him and Randle came here to stat pad and never planned on playing as a team. That’s why’d freeze RJ out at all the time. I’m gonna harp on this for the rest of time Payton is on this team. He went away from the hot hand to help his buddy get stats and I don’t think for one second that it wasn’t intentional.

Elfrid Payton is a fraud.

He intentionally froze out RJ because he knew RJ was a threat to him as a playmaker, and he couldn’t have anyone in the way of him stat-padding for his next contract. He was clearly dominating the ball and forcing passes to Randle, who may or may not have been helping his buddy too.

I’m convinced Payton couldn’t care less about the team or winning. He’s always playing for his next contract, ie for money.

You could tell there was something off about the way he interacted with the rest of the team during time-outs by the way. It’s like he was keeping some sort distance, or generally showing some level of restraint. I don’t know, maybe it’s just an impression.

[K_ick_God]

Every once in a while I catch myself feeling like the season is a ways off as usual. We get to see the results of a failed offseason without delay. Mere weeks.

[Capn'O]

If the Knicks are going to punt (again) i would just wait before I add more guys. Money running out fast and there are going to be some solid guys left hiding the "Will Work for Scraps" sign. Thats the value for a team that is punting. You get these guys for cheap and then move them before the deadline for assets.

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It seems like that's what we're doing. There might be a bigger move coming.

Another option is to hold cap into the season an facilitate deals later.

[K_ick_God]

Surprised Burks and Noel who could play for a contender decide to a join a team to tank for a year

Playing time.

[DaGawd]

John Wall or Russell Westbrook?

Westbrook. Not even close. Now if the Wizards are willing to include a lot of assets, then that changes. Wall wasn't the player Westbrook was when Wall was healthy. With Wall suffering the absolute worst injury a player like him can possibly have (short of dismemberment or decapitation), its not even close. Both players contracts are pretty much identical so you go with the better player and thats Westbrook by a mile right now.

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Think I’d rather Wall... 1 I know the Wizards will def be sending picks.. Rockets sound like they think they should be getting picks..
2 I feel like wall is more of a true point than Westbrook ever was. He’ll find guys open if nothing else and get them good looks

[YungKnicks]

Seriously besides Drafting Toppin, why wouldn't you try to upgrade your team... this really feels and looks like the same team from last year.

This is what we get from the highest (im sure it is) paid front office?

I really hope there's more to come...

[EricAnderson]

Every once in a while I catch myself feeling like the season is a ways off as usual. We get to see the results of a failed offseason without delay. Mere weeks.

Lol yeah it’s still hard to comprehend the season starts in a month from now during FA.

Also odd to think the next offseason starts in just 6 or 7 months from now and we’ve had a year in a half in between last offseason and this one.

[YungKnicks]

Furkan Korkmaz, Cheick Diallo, Bryn Forbes are still available.