[Camelo Thread] - Update: He's Pushing for NYK! Part 5

sol537 · Post #941 » by **sol537** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:09 pm

JohnStarksTheDunk wrote:
sol537 wrote:I wonder how much value they are placing on a guy who might not re-sign there.

...about 2 first rounders and a young prospect (like Favors) as far as I can tell... :wink:

BBALLER4FR · Post #942 » by **BBALLER4FR** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:13 pm

JohnStarksTheDunk wrote:Also, for #3, keep in mind that DEN could lose Chandler for nothing at the end of the season as well, and he has been quoted as saying he doesn't want to go to Denver. I wonder how much value they are placing on a guy who might not re-sign there.

Chandler would be a flipping fool to go elsewhere (coming off of a rookie contract) when Denver could offer the most $$$ and the Nuggets know that. What Chandler's saying now is what he should be saying when the team is winning. Nobody believes he won't resign with Denver anymore than Denver believed Melo would leave. The difference is where they are at opposite points in their respective careers. Melo is in his prime looking to get win a title, team up with a friend and return home while Chandler is in search of his first big contract ala David Lee.

JohnStarksTheDunk · Post #943 » by **JohnStarksTheDunk** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:13 pm

sol537 wrote:
JohnStarksTheDunk wrote:
sol537 wrote:I wonder how much value they are placing on a guy who might not re-sign there.

...about 2 first rounders and a young prospect (like Favors) as far as I can tell...

Ha, fair enough.

FieldsMedal · Post #944 » by **FieldsMedal** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:20 pm

Restricted free agents can't be centerpieces of deals.

And it has nothing to do with any comments he might have made regarding Denver.

There is just too much uncertainty.

The centerpiece of your deal could accept the QO and play his one season on your team with his foot out the door.

Worse, another team could swoop in and sign him to an offer sheet that exceeds what you perceive to be his value.

You can talk all day about what Chandler may likely get on the market, or what he might do it traded there, but either way Denver cannot predict or control it, which is the inherent problem.

seren · Post #945 » by **seren** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:30 pm

FieldsMedal wrote:Restricted free agents can't be centerpieces of deals.

And it has nothing to do with any comments he might have made regarding Denver.

There is just too much uncertainty.

The centerpiece of your deal could accept the QO and play his one season on your team with his foot out the door.

Worse, another team could swoop in and sign him to an offer sheet that exceeds what you perceive to be his value.

You can talk all day about what Chandler may likely get on the market, or what he might do it traded there, but either way Denver cannot predict or control it, which is the inherent problem.

Yes. It is not even certain whether the next CBA will do away with RFA altogether. Chandler's trade value is low in a rebuilding trade. It is more likely he goes to another contending team in a three team deal if he is added in a trade.

soby22 · Post #946 » by **soby22** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:31 pm

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM CAN WE GET.MELO ALREDY

Iron Mantis · Post #947 » by **Iron Mantis** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:49 pm

Walsh is Definitely not going to make ANY kinda major trade, going into the most hyped game in ages.

Lord Commander · Post #948 » by **Lord Commander** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:24 pm

knickabocker88 wrote:http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_16881004

-Woody Paige smoking that good stuff, I'm not even going to bother quoting his garbage

"Wow us"...LOLLLLL. I guess the snow and cow dung in Denver must make the ground extra fertile for growing that goooooood weed. :lol:

captain subtext · Post #949 » by **captain subtext** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:53 pm

defjux21 wrote:
Nice, but isn't #15 retired?

Twice. Earl "the Pearl" Monroe and Dick McGuire.

Post #950 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:52 pm

"knowledgeable league sources say Melo hasn't necessarily ruled out the Nets"

Boy that's a very definitive statement.

AllanHoustonFan · Post #951 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:56 pm

KnicksGod wrote:"knowledgeable league sources say Melo hasn't necessarily ruled out the Nets"

Boy that's a very definitive statement.

I smell fake hustle

Lord Commander · Post #952 » by **Lord Commander** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:56 pm

KnicksGod wrote:"knowledgeable league sources say Melo hasn't necessarily ruled out the Nets"

Boy that's a very definitive statement.

All this speculation is very funny. If there was a deal to be made with Jersey, it would behoove Denver to make it ASAP. What's the hold-up?

AllanHoustonFan · Post #953 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:58 pm

ToHoleWithSoul wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:"knowledgeable league sources say Melo hasn't necessarily ruled out the Nets"

Boy that's a very definitive statement.

All this speculation is very funny. If there was a deal to be made with Jersey, it would behoove Denver to make it ASAP. What's the hold-up?

Post #954 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:17 pm

AllanHoustonFan wrote:
ToHoleWithSoul wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:"knowledgeable league sources say Melo hasn't necessarily ruled out the Nets"

Boy that's a very definitive statement.

All this speculation is very funny. If there was a deal to be made with Jersey, it would behoove Denver to make it ASAP. What's the hold-up?

Pretty much. I used to think NJ had a real shot. Not so much anymore, all jinx aside.

ITGM · Post #955 » by **ITGM** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:18 pm

ToHoleWithSoul wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:"knowledgeable league sources say Melo hasn't necessarily ruled out the Nets"

Boy that's a very definitive statement.

All this speculation is very funny. If there was a deal to be made with Jersey, it would behoove Denver to make it ASAP. What's the hold-up?

Yea pretty much this "Dawg"

NYman15 · Post #956 » by **NYman15** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:19 pm

A nice article on the carmelo situation with thoughts on him and shares a lot of opinions like us.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/17/sport ... howardbeck

god shammgod · Post #957 » by **god shammgod** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:21 pm

KnicksGod wrote:

Pretty much. I used to think NJ had a real shot. Not so much anymore, all jinx aside.

the nets already had the best offer. so now they've improved on it and still nothing is happening. you'd think at some point they'd realize that it's not gonna happen and denver has been playing with them.

AllanHoustonFan · Post #958 » by **AllanHoustonFan** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:27 pm

god shammgod wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:

Pretty much. I used to think NJ had a real shot. Not so much anymore, all jinx aside.

the nets already had the best offer. so now they've improved on it and still nothing is happening. you'd think at some point they'd realize that it's not gonna happen and denver has been playing with them.

I think they know they're out of it so they're trying to make the Knicks sell the farm just to get Melo by putting more pressure on us. Too bad they fail to realize Melo and Amar'e are close friends and Amar'e relays messages to Donnie Walsh.

Punk · Post #959 » by **Punk** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:33 pm

So, basically all season long so far we've been seeing NJ getting close to finalizing a deal for Melo and they failed at it in September. Why the hell do these "sources" keep saying he hasnt ruled them out yet when clearly he would be there if wanted NJ.

Marty McFly · Post #960 » by **Marty McFly** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:59 pm

woody paige is just mad all of denver stars are leaving. that old ****'s league sources are none other then the nets.