Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread

[booyaka_jones]

It's pretty imperative we re-sign D Rose. His arrival sparked the team and transformed us from a middling team into a winner. At seasons end we were 24-11 when he played, 17-20 without, and probably 90% of us watch every game, so you know that was no fluke. He straight up carried the team for stretches of multiple games.

The good news is he and Thibs have an obvious rapport and chemistry, so you would assume he stays based on him merely preferring to play for Los Knicks. But yeah, this is kind of an underrated, under-talked about need-to-do offseason transaction.

Am I the only one that doesn't want to give Thibs his favorite toys back? He really is like my toddler at times - I buy this kid better shinier toys but he just wants to play with the damn amazon boxes all day instead.

Not only was Rose one of the better players on our team, he had a tremendous rapport with the rookies. Not sure what’s not to like

Not that I disagree, entirely of course - I didn't mean to give the impression that I don't have much love for D-Rose. I really just can't trust our couch to NOT run it back on big minutes all over again with guys like Rose, Bullock and Taj if we bring them back. As much as each of those aging vets contributed last season, we need to look forward, not backward. I don't see how if we somehow bring Bullock back (we shouldn't, ate his current asking price), Thibs won't just slot him right into the starting unit again. Taj is just another roadblock to small ball experimentations with Obi and Randle. My issue isn't with the vets themselves - I appreciate every one of their contributions. My issue lies in Thibs and his usage of these guys and what happens if we basically just run it back next season.

[8516knicks]

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[WargamesX]

Notice how Knicks aren't in any Woj rumors? That's because they aren't going to get anything done.

Just get ready for some more Noel and Burks 1 style 1 year deals.

The most exciting thing you might get is Kelly Oubre on a 1 year deal.

And Elf is coming back.

We’ll see if anything the Knicks are waiting so Woj can have the exclusive on dropping their moves. That CAA loyalty runs deep

Either the Knicks have nothing going on, or they've asked Woj to be silent and then he'll get to drop the bomb. The CAA thing is actually true, as WOJ generally wrote hit pieces about the Knicks, but after Rose/WWW got hired, it's been generally positive.
He's on the payroll\inside. Which I think was always a Woj thing. If not literally taking cash, at the least he traded access for favorable write ups.

I'd bet it's the Knicks have nothing going on though.

So many teams want to make deals and so many teams have superior front offices, that they'll be dealing among themselves while Knicks will be watching.

We’ll see. Other teams do like to offer the Knicks bad deals historically, but this FO has ties to other ones. There is no way to know for sure until the dust settles, but I do expect them to make some draft moves. Mostly because while we all are aware Thibs doesn’t play rookies, the team needs talent and bodies.

I also think the Woj bomb factor is real. All the Knicks rumors have come from other reporters but the actual deal will come from Woj who’ll act like them making a trade is a brand new exclusive.

[thebuzzardman]

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I see they modeled it's game after RJ Barrett

[newyorker4ever]

Been pounding the table for Fournier for months now.

Dude simply plays winning basketball.

Do you get that from the winning he did in Orlando or in Boston last year?

[thebuzzardman]

Been pounding the table for Fournier for months now.

Dude simply plays winning basketball.

Do you get that from the winning he did in Orlando or in Boston last year?

So true. Knicks don't need any wings that can shoot, pass and handle the ball.

[newyorker4ever]

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Dolan spent a Kool billion on this.

[newyorker4ever]

Been pounding the table for Fournier for months now.

Dude simply plays winning basketball.

Do you get that from the winning he did in Orlando or in Boston last year?

So true. Knicks don't need any wings that can shoot, pass and handle the ball.

Damn it Bzzzzz, i didn't say he couldn't do all of that, i was just wondering where the winning basketball got played from him.

[thebuzzardman]

Do you get that from the winning he did in Orlando or in Boston last year?

So true. Knicks don't need any wings that can shoot, pass and handle the ball.

Damn it Bzzzzz, i didn't say he couldn't do all of that, i was just wondering where the winning basketball got played from him.

I think he's a good player, but a complimentary player. If a team is good enough, he'll help it to win, but he won't carry any team specifically.

I like him, but he's probably not a fit in that getting him with another necessary player would cap out the Knicks and maybe lock them in as a 2nd round exit for 4 years.

[newyorker4ever]

So true. Knicks don't need any wings that can shoot, pass and handle the ball.

Damn it Bzzzzz, i didn't say he couldn't do all of that, i was just wondering where the winning basketball got played from him.

I think he's a good player, but a complimentary player. If a team is good enough, he'll help it to win, but he won't carry any team specifically.

I like him, but he's probably not a fit in that getting him with another necessary player would cap out the Knicks and maybe lock them in as a 2nd round exit for 4 years.

We need shooting so if they did decide making a playoff run again next year is what they want to do then i'd be good with signing him, unless we could get Duncan Robinson or another legit shooter cheaper.

[Fortune55]

I been a fan of the Knicks for 20+ years and never seen them make a good move. I hope things change this year like every year. I never bought coke before but I definitely will buy some to celebrate if we make a awesome move.

[F N 11]

We gunna be looking at 1 year deal vets and wondering if we’re bringing back Payton by Wednesday.

[Jimmit79]

Knicks continue to believe that star players want to come here but in the process they skip the roster building and asset collecting part. Look at Presti and Perry the difference in strategy is the difference between heaven and earth.

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[nykballa2k4]

Knicks continue to believe that star players want to come here but in the process they skip the roster building and asset collecting part. Look at Presti and Perry the difference in strategy is the difference between heaven and earth.

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Think we are trying to rebuild with an eye on a super-team. Presti is doing a Process. Thunder are basically an NBA farm team right now...

[Marty McFly]

the knicks need to not be dumb and make that Pel's deal happen,. we're not getting a star this year nor there next. Just snag that #10 pick and try to move up with all the first rounders.

[KnixinSix]

Knicks are better poised than in many years to pull something off:

1. Stabilized culture and front office, headed by people with strong connections to agents/players
2. Quality coaching staff which was proven by last years overacheiving performance to finish 4th in East
3. 5 FRPs in next 3 years
4. A few young decent quality tradeable assets headed by RJ Barrett
5. Most cap space in NBA, even possible 2 clear room to sign TWO maxes.
6. A young ascending player who can be part of a big 2 or 3 in Julius Randle
7. Best Hospitals and treatment centers arguably in the world


To just assume automatic doom and gloom is a bit pessimistic. This doesn't garantee we get a superstar or two but I have a feeling we end up with some pretty good upgrades. Ranging from Sexton low end to Lillard and Kawhi high end.

[DaGawd]

Knicks are better poised than in many years to pull something off:

1. Stabilized culture and front office, headed by people with strong connections to agents/players
2. Quality coaching staff which was proven by last years overacheiving performance to finish 4th in East
3. 5 FRPs in next 3 years
4. A few young decent quality tradeable assets headed by RJ Barrett
5. Most cap space in NBA, even possible 2 clear room to sign TWO maxes.
6. A young ascending player who can be part of a big 2 or 3 in Julius Randle
7. Best Hospitals and treatment centers arguably in the world


To just assume automatic doom and gloom is a bit pessimistic. This doesn't garantee we get a superstar or two but I have a feeling we end up with some pretty good upgrades. Ranging from Sexton low end to Lillard and Kawhi high end.

The assets aren’t good enough yet.. not saying we can’t have a off season like that but it’s very easy to see a quiet one again with 1 year deals and maybe Lonzo sprinkled in for added effect

[F N 11]

the knicks need to not be dumb and make that Pel's deal happen,. we're not getting a star this year nor there next. Just snag that #10 pick and try to move up with all the first rounders.

We never get in on these deals. Grizzlies would gain #10 and a back up to Ja. Get it together Leon. Aller you know Griff, stop playing.

[KnixinSix]

Knicks are better poised than in many years to pull something off:

1. Stabilized culture and front office, headed by people with strong connections to agents/players
2. Quality coaching staff which was proven by last years overacheiving performance to finish 4th in East
3. 5 FRPs in next 3 years
4. A few young decent quality tradeable assets headed by RJ Barrett
5. Most cap space in NBA, even possible 2 clear room to sign TWO maxes.
6. A young ascending player who can be part of a big 2 or 3 in Julius Randle
7. Best Hospitals and treatment centers arguably in the world


To just assume automatic doom and gloom is a bit pessimistic. This doesn't garantee we get a superstar or two but I have a feeling we end up with some pretty good upgrades. Ranging from Sexton low end to Lillard and Kawhi high end.

The assets aren’t good enough yet.. not saying we can’t have a off season like that but it’s very easy to see a quiet one again with 1 year deals and maybe Lonzo sprinkled in for added effect

RJ is a pretty good asset. Obi has teams that like his projections. So while we may not have elite prospects we have pretty good ones.

[louisorr]

grew up in NYC, went to Kentucky, 22 yo, 39% from 3, wing, freak athlete, free agent, what's not to like about Diallo