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Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion

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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#941 » by KnixinSix » Sun Jul 3, 2022 7:15 pm

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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#942 » by Reign23 » Sun Jul 3, 2022 7:24 pm

Dragic to Chicago. Fine depth signing for them.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#943 » by robillionaire » Sun Jul 3, 2022 7:26 pm

if woj said it that’s how it is. They aren’t trading him.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#944 » by Guano » Sun Jul 3, 2022 7:38 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:Hmm if Ayton joins Utah that means I will have to join forces with my enemy, guan0 and be a Utah fan

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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#945 » by Polk377 » Sun Jul 3, 2022 7:41 pm

Reign23 wrote:Dragic to Chicago. Fine depth signing for them.

Glad he is not going to Dallas. Chicago has too many PGs now though.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#946 » by HopelessKnick » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:12 pm

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So he's absolutely right stating the obvious that most everyone else has already been saying and he is merely repeating what he heard? Brilliant analysis, he's the best evar! Are you his mom?



Seems more like you are his jealous Ex-girlfriend.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#947 » by HEZI » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:15 pm

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What I was saying yesterday. They moved the guy who he didn’t want to play with and who was crippling them as far flexibility during to his contract and they acquired pieces that can use to still remain competitive while also having the assets to make a big move or two in addition to what they have. Doesn’t make sense to move him now
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#948 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:33 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Hmm if Ayton joins Utah that means I will have to join forces with my enemy, guan0 and be a Utah fan

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Very risky to have Ayton under the guan0 curse
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#949 » by Jimmit79 » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:42 pm

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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#950 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:47 pm

robillionaire wrote:if woj said it that’s how it is. They aren’t trading him.


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Post#951 » by newyorker4ever » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:50 pm

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Post#952 » by omerome » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:54 pm

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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#953 » by newyorker4ever » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:59 pm

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What I was saying yesterday. They moved the guy who he didn’t want to play with and who was crippling them as far flexibility during to his contract and they acquired pieces that can use to still remain competitive while also having the assets to make a big move or two in addition to what they have. Doesn’t make sense to move him now


They also got rid of his two best friends on the team and from what's been said it was Minn who called and kept calling and were being aggressive for the Gobert trade.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#954 » by stuporman » Sun Jul 3, 2022 9:00 pm

The Bricklyn Nyets....final answer
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Post#955 » by Madskillzz024 » Sun Jul 3, 2022 9:03 pm

Surprised Dallas didn’t land Dragic. I wonder if a sign and trade with Derrick Rose would work to open cap space ? We are still sitting on Taj Gibson’s 5 mill contract as well
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#956 » by HEZI » Sun Jul 3, 2022 9:13 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
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What I was saying yesterday. They moved the guy who he didn’t want to play with and who was crippling them as far flexibility during to his contract and they acquired pieces that can use to still remain competitive while also having the assets to make a big move or two in addition to what they have. Doesn’t make sense to move him now


They also got rid of his two best friends on the team and from what's been said it was Minn who called and kept calling and were being aggressive for the Gobert trade.


They traded one trash role player for a 1st round pick and the other is likely never going to be the same after having acl tear at a late age in his career. Now the team has flexibility it never had during his time there
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#957 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jul 3, 2022 9:59 pm

stuporman wrote:I don't think I have seen a summer where this many 'stars' with 3 and 4 years left on contracts are being moved. It's unusual for sure.


It’s the new trend. Get your money and then request a trade.
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Post#958 » by nedleeds » Sun Jul 3, 2022 10:10 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
stuporman wrote:I don't think I have seen a summer where this many 'stars' with 3 and 4 years left on contracts are being moved. It's unusual for sure.


It’s the new trend. Get your money and then request a trade.


Next CBA will be a bloodbath. I'm not even putting all the blame on either side, actually they deserve each other for everything.

Take the Durant example, has 4 years left on a deal where the ink was barely dry.

Well, the Nets knew and know he's a front running diva that signed there to try to win a ring with another diva -- Kyrie. Once the Harden situation exploded in their faces (another diva, only at least KD tries on the court) they should have traded all these clowns.

Durant can request a trade and put it out there that he did. But what's his leverage? He can essentially threaten to play badly, or not try and it's very hard to no pay a player if they are showing up and playing. But like A.D. and Harden it can get bad quickly. His real leverage is the CBA itself, which makes NBA contracts guaranteed (almost bullet proof 100%, guys like Gilbert Arenas and Larry Sanders both got paid, 1 in jail and 1 who told them straight up he hated basketball and wanted to smoke weed and play Xbox all day). It's the only pro sports league with guaranteed deals AND a salary cap. In the NFL there's a cap, but you can cut a player at almost any time (signing bonuses are pro-rated), in baseball there's no cap and deals are guaranteed.

Somehow the owners have **** themselves by having the worst situation. Even if they prove KD isn't trying and withhold game checks it doesn't actually help them win or sign players because he's eating 35% of their cap.

At this point, assuming the player actually has positive value, the team pretty much has to trade them, but loses quite a bit of leverage because if KD ends up in New Orleans he can just pull the same act and leave them screwed trying to make up for what they gave up.

Anyway, all this is to say it's not sustainable for team building. As players get more and more post millennial we'll see this more as these bitchmade social media starved infants don't get everything they want handed to them. Next CBA is going to be a total warzone and I don't expect the owners to get **** so hard. They're asking players to fulfill their contracts and come to work, they'll go to ground with numerous examples of the players doing the opposite. We got the amnesty clause with the last big CBA, which addressed having a max cat get injured severely and having that sink your franchise by having 30% of your cap devoted to nothing. I see something similar but to address this new problem directly.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#959 » by nedleeds » Sun Jul 3, 2022 10:17 pm

HEZI wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
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What I was saying yesterday. They moved the guy who he didn’t want to play with and who was crippling them as far flexibility during to his contract and they acquired pieces that can use to still remain competitive while also having the assets to make a big move or two in addition to what they have. Doesn’t make sense to move him now


They also got rid of his two best friends on the team and from what's been said it was Minn who called and kept calling and were being aggressive for the Gobert trade.


They traded one trash role player for a 1st round pick and the other is likely never going to be the same after having acl tear at a late age in his career. Now the team has flexibility it never had during his time there

Utah just pulled off one of the 5 most lopsided trades in modern NBA history. Turning one of the 3 worst contracts in the league into infinite picks, a replacement defensive center on a rookie scale deal and 3 reasonable contracts (maybe Vanderbilt is negative value). If Mitchell can't see that then he's a clown and an idiot. They weren't winning anything of significance with Gobert's inability to do anything against a switch on offense, being played off the floor in the playoffs and with him taking up 31% of your cap.
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#960 » by TheGreenArrow » Sun Jul 3, 2022 10:22 pm

Madskillzz024 wrote:Surprised Dallas didn’t land Dragic. I wonder if a sign and trade with Derrick Rose would work to open cap space ? We are still sitting on Taj Gibson’s 5 mill contract as well

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