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Post#941 » by Strick » Mon May 20, 2024 3:11 am

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Post#942 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon May 20, 2024 3:36 am

1. Brunson
2. Randle
3. OG

We need to get a solid backup PG who has length and plays defense. If we do that, then we can keep Deuce.

I would be okay keeping Burks who can play 1-3. I’d keep Bojan too.
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Post#943 » by WaltFrazier » Mon May 20, 2024 3:41 am

Raptor commentator Blake Murphy was saying before Christmas the Raps needed to identify a young guard with upside who was maybe being held back on his current team. He suggested IQ then looked smart when they did acquire him.

Seems like a good formula. Knicks could use an athletic 3-4 who could spell off OG and Randle both. Who would be a young gettable 6'8 wing kinda like IQ? Kuzma, Jerami Grant, guys like that are expensive. Is there a younger unsung one out there?
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Post#944 » by WaltFrazier » Mon May 20, 2024 3:43 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:1. Brunson
2. Randle
3. OG

We need to get a solid backup PG who has length and plays defense. If we do that, then we can keep Deuce.

I would be okay keeping Burks who can play 1-3. Same with Bojan.

Brogdon would be that long backup PG but has injury issues. Dejonte Murray but he'd be harder to acquire.
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Post#945 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon May 20, 2024 3:45 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:1. Brunson
2. Randle
3. OG

We need to get a solid backup PG who has length and plays defense. If we do that, then we can keep Deuce.

I would be okay keeping Burks who can play 1-3. Same with Bojan.

Brogdon would be that long backup PG but has injury issues. Dejonte Murray but he'd be harder to acquire.

Brogdan makes a lot of money. I don’t know that we can afford him. He would be great though.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#946 » by ezmoney707 » Mon May 20, 2024 4:05 am

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Meat wrote:you dont see how jb, who was clearly dead on his feet at the end of this series could be helped by having someone to share the offensive load with?

Of course he needs help, doesn’t necessarily mean that’s the correct help he needs from a fit perspective

What do you mean “fit?”

Two undersized guards especially two that are ball dominant isn’t an ideal fit and is quite clunky on both sides of the ball. The ideal fit is a player that can play off-ball, create for themselves if needed, and not be a defensive liability, when you’re already hiding Jalen on defense

Point of the attack defense is important come playoff time. So unless DM is going to learn to be a lock down defender and be willing to play off the ball more, the fit is not right for this current build.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#947 » by matchman » Mon May 20, 2024 4:16 am

Not jumping in here until season is over.

Some highlights in this summer:
1) We have seen enough the potential and cohesiveness of NOVA boys, would Leon Rose consider to complete the puzzle by getting Mikal? Nets would not let go of him easily if any, would you trade Randle or even sign and trade OG to get it done? Just picks would not be enough.
2) iHart. To me it's straightforward, if 70M/4 years can get it done it is a no-brainer. But will he consider a fat paycheck from lower teams or e.g. Raptors and Jazz who have the money to spend?
3) Backup PG. I like Mcbride a lot, he could be one of the best NBA contract now, and can play alongside Brunson but at this moment he's not a PG. If we decide to keep him we should try to look for a veteran PG who can spell Brunson a break or occasionally start if Brunson goes to maintenance mode.
4) To my ideal scenario, the 10-man squad for next season would probably be:

Brunson/new sign vet PG/draft project?
Divo/ Mcbride /Hart
OG/Hart/another draftee
Bridges or Randle/Precious or his replacement/Hart
Hartenstein/Mitch

Hart should be our fuse of the engine or for a NOVA4 lineup with a center to go. The 11th guy onwards should be trustable guys, not cheerleaders.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#948 » by aggo » Mon May 20, 2024 4:26 am

matchman wrote:Not jumping in here until season is over.

Some highlights in this summer:
1) We have seen enough the potential and cohesiveness of NOVA boys, would Leon Rose consider to complete the puzzle by getting Mikal? Nets would not let go of him easily if any, would you trade Randle or even sign and trade OG to get it done? Just picks would not be enough.
2) iHart. To me it's straightforward, if 70M/4 years can get it done it is a no-brainer. But will he consider a fat paycheck from lower teams or e.g. Raptors and Jazz who have the money to spend?
3) Backup PG. I like Mcbride a lot, he could be one of the best NBA contract now, and can play alongside Brunson but at this moment he's not a PG. If we decide to keep him we should try to look for a veteran PG who can spell Brunson a break or occasionally start if Brunson goes to maintenance mode.
4) To my ideal scenario, the 10-man squad for next season would probably be:

Brunson/new sign vet PG/draft project?
Divo/ Mcbride /Hart
OG/Hart/another draftee
Bridges or Randle/Precious or his replacement/Hart
Hartenstein/Mitch

Hart should be our fuse of the engine or for a NOVA4 lineup with a center to go. The 11th guy onwards should be trustable guys, not cheerleaders.



Not having a bonafide ball handler off the bench hurt us so bad at the end of the season and in the playoffs. McBride simply doesn’t have the handles to initiate offense.

We can’t sit here and ask for a guy like tyus jones who currently plays 30mpg to get traded here so we’d only play him 15.

So we’re gonna have to scrape the barrel. DSJ can probably be had for a 2 year deal. Deanthony melton can probably be had for a 3-4 year deal.

Then the other priority of shoring up the team is adding a backup PF or C that can space. Maybe the call we make to Brooklyn isn’t for Mikal but for DFS.

I’m not gonna pretend to figure out the big moves but if ihart comes back, trading Mitch becomes a priority, especially with sims still on the roster.

OKC, SAC, Pels make a lot of sense for a Mitch destination
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Post#949 » by GettinitDone » Mon May 20, 2024 4:29 am

Divo should never be included in any deal even for a superstar imo... he's 3rd in 3pt makes in the whole L behind Steph and Luka, he can catch and shoot, and shoot off dribble or shake and bake, he can shoot off a full speed attack dribble and pull up on a dime, these are rare qualities. To have him as our 3rd/ 4th option after JB and Randle (or another star if we trade Randle) is an extremely lethal weapon to have... again he's one of the top 3 shooters in the L... you can't just replace his shooting production and the way he makes his 3s. And for cream on the top, he has ability to cut/ slash to the cup too. He makes our O special the way OG makes our D special. Total keeper for me.
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Post#950 » by matchman » Mon May 20, 2024 4:33 am

GettinitDone wrote:Divo should never be included in any deal even for a superstar imo... he's 3rd in 3pt makes in the whole L behind Steph and Luka, he can catch and shoot, and shoot off dribble or shake and bake, he can shoot off a full speed attack dribble and pull up on a dime, these are rare qualities. To have him as our 3rd/ 4th option after JB and Randle (or another star if we trade Randle) is an extremely lethal weapon to have... again he's one of the top 3 shooters in the L... you can't just replace his shooting production and the way he makes his 3s. And for cream on the top, he has ability to cut/ slash to the cup too. He makes our O special the way OG makes our D special. Total keeper for me.

With Brunson here the number of NOVA boys would only increase not vice versa, especially before his contract extension is signed. :D
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Post#951 » by MeloFromTheLeft » Mon May 20, 2024 4:39 am

WaltFrazier wrote:Raptor commentator Blake Murphy was saying before Christmas the Raps needed to identify a young guard with upside who was maybe being held back on his current team. He suggested IQ then looked smart when they did acquire him.

Seems like a good formula. Knicks could use an athletic 3-4 who could spell off OG and Randle both. Who would be a young gettable 6'8 wing kinda like IQ? Kuzma, Jerami Grant, guys like that are expensive. Is there a younger unsung one out there?


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Post#952 » by WargamesX » Mon May 20, 2024 4:53 am

I said this a week ago but I still stand by it….. except I am no longer for bringing back Precious. They might as well grab a rookie.

Bog+deuce+picks for Bridges
Re-sign IHart
Let Burks, Precious, and Sims walk.
OG is returning no matter what we think
Bring over Rokas to run the defense when Brunson is sitting.

IHart/Mitch
Randle/Rookie
OG/Hart
Bridges/DDV
Brunson/Rokas

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Post#953 » by Context » Mon May 20, 2024 5:34 am

GettinitDone wrote:Divo should never be included in any deal even for a superstar imo... he's 3rd in 3pt makes in the whole L behind Steph and Luka, he can catch and shoot, and shoot off dribble or shake and bake, he can shoot off a full speed attack dribble and pull up on a dime, these are rare qualities. To have him as our 3rd/ 4th option after JB and Randle (or another star if we trade Randle) is an extremely lethal weapon to have... again he's one of the top 3 shooters in the L... you can't just replace his shooting production and the way he makes his 3s. And for cream on the top, he has ability to cut/ slash to the cup too. He makes our O special the way OG makes our D special. Total keeper for me.
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Post#954 » by matchman » Mon May 20, 2024 5:46 am



He has pointed out that even keeping current roster will be quite a challenge already, and not a fan for trading for Donovan.
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Post#955 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon May 20, 2024 5:48 am

WargamesX wrote:I said this a week ago but I still stand by it….. except I am no longer for bringing back Precious. They might as well grab a rookie.

Bog+deuce+picks for Bridges
Re-sign IHart
Let Burks, Precious, and Sims walk.
OG is returning no matter what we think
Bring over Rokas to run the defense when Brunson is sitting.

IHart/Mitch
Randle/Rookie
OG/Hart
Bridges/DDV
Brunson/Rokas

Dedicate the whole season to revenge :evil:


We can't go into next season with only a rookie behind Randle. I would consider bringing Precious back especially if we're trading Sims, which I support.
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Post#956 » by Ma10 » Mon May 20, 2024 8:10 am

I would say Alex Caruso would complement our roster great. And even if I really hated on Randle we could have really needed some post presence in the playoffs.
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Post#957 » by Galou » Mon May 20, 2024 8:17 am

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Post#958 » by ozwizard8 » Mon May 20, 2024 9:41 am

GettinitDone wrote:Randle is 30 and is our most valuable asset for us if we wanna make a splash move, so it's logical wanting to trade him. But it's easier said than done, he provides physicality especially on offense to give us the yang to JB's yin... they perfectly complement each other imo.

OG is great but I have concerns about his durability esp if Thibs can't control himself and keep playing him 42mpg... watching players like Jaden McDaniels I can't lie, OG is the better defender but Jaden isn't really far behind, can shoot as well and maybe score better, and stays healthy... I'd happily swap OG for Jaden for our team. But as coveted as OG is across the L I doubt Minny does it.

My dream player to add to our team is Jaren Jackson Jr... but I guess he's off limits.

Get Bobby Portis, he's a baller (16ppg and 11rpg in playoffs) and an enforcer we need.

Trading Jalen Duren on draft night stings he may be the best player in the L to fill Mitch's shoes if we trade Mitch.

Deuce had a disappointing 2nd rd series, but I'm mostly still happy with his progress and production this year, he should keep improving and learn from his mistakes, wouldn't be mad to keep him or move him for someone like Gary Trent Jr (ring ring Masai again), but I'd keep Deuce.

Jaden Mcdaniels has a plot armor in this playoffs. Refs try to avoid calling anything on him. OG is objectively a better defender.

Ingram is a good fit. I'd suggest Paul George if he is available. Would anyone consider Lebron if he wanted to sign with Knicks?
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Post#959 » by ozwizard8 » Mon May 20, 2024 9:45 am

matchman wrote:Not jumping in here until season is over.

Some highlights in this summer:
1) We have seen enough the potential and cohesiveness of NOVA boys, would Leon Rose consider to complete the puzzle by getting Mikal? Nets would not let go of him easily if any, would you trade Randle or even sign and trade OG to get it done? Just picks would not be enough.
2) iHart. To me it's straightforward, if 70M/4 years can get it done it is a no-brainer. But will he consider a fat paycheck from lower teams or e.g. Raptors and Jazz who have the money to spend?
3) Backup PG. I like Mcbride a lot, he could be one of the best NBA contract now, and can play alongside Brunson but at this moment he's not a PG. If we decide to keep him we should try to look for a veteran PG who can spell Brunson a break or occasionally start if Brunson goes to maintenance mode.
4) To my ideal scenario, the 10-man squad for next season would probably be:

Brunson/new sign vet PG/draft project?
Divo/ Mcbride /Hart
OG/Hart/another draftee
Bridges or Randle/Precious or his replacement/Hart
Hartenstein/Mitch

Hart should be our fuse of the engine or for a NOVA4 lineup with a center to go. The 11th guy onwards should be trustable guys, not cheerleaders.

PG situation probably looks worse due to absence of Randle and Bogdanovic.
Randle's usage was pretty high. When he comes, especially in the stretches where Brunson sits, Randle will consume enough possessions by himself so PG may look like a less of a need. Bogdanovic can give that entry pass or Deuce play p&r.
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Post#960 » by WargamesX » Mon May 20, 2024 9:46 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
WargamesX wrote:I said this a week ago but I still stand by it….. except I am no longer for bringing back Precious. They might as well grab a rookie.

Bog+deuce+picks for Bridges
Re-sign IHart
Let Burks, Precious, and Sims walk.
OG is returning no matter what we think
Bring over Rokas to run the defense when Brunson is sitting.

IHart/Mitch
Randle/Rookie
OG/Hart
Bridges/DDV
Brunson/Rokas

Dedicate the whole season to revenge :evil:


We can't go into next season with only a rookie behind Randle. I would consider bringing Precious back especially if we're trading Sims, which I support.


That makes sense, but if Randle isn’t injured his backup is probably going to be split between OG and Hart. Precious is good for what he is, but he’s not seeing any real minutes behind Randle if everyone is healthy. I can see a scenario where they bring him back, or where they grab a Rookie and just have them learn all season.
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