Around the NBA - 2024-25 Season Continued Again

[3toheadmelo]

Have to rethink the what ifs of doing the Kat trade all over again.

Add Mikal, keep Randle and Donte, where would we be now?

Finch is a very good offensive coach so that's helping Randle, plus playing with Ant

Remember it takes Julius a year to get comfortable. If they keep him next year he will probably get back to all NBA or All Star level.

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It hasn’t even been a year. He’s already back at an all nba all star level and now just went 29 8 and 5 on 13-18 shooting in an elimination game. I don’t expect apologies from the people who tormented his fans for years for backing him insisting he can’t mentally perform in the playoffs and ignoring all the circumstances because that’s just not what we do here but just the sweet sound of their continued silence on the matter is enough

[KnicksGadfly]

Have to rethink the what ifs of doing the Kat trade all over again.

Add Mikal, keep Randle and Donte, where would we be now?

Finch is a very good offensive coach so that's helping Randle, plus playing with Ant

Meh...Randle had 5 years here to show us what he had...went to Minnesota and started hitting threes and playing defense. Randle really was the guy before Brunson...the cheap contract extension, the signing, returning us to the playoffs, even leading a tough defensive team during COVID...but his poor decisionmaking outweighed the good in the end. He was given many chances here - the opportunity to have his jersey in the rafters, the opportunity to lead and make this his team - and he gave it up. We talk about what we lost, but he lost a shyt-ton because he didn't treasure his opportunity.

Yea, I can't blame the Front Office for finally saying, enough. I don't know anyone else in New York professional sports who got the chances he did and I think he's probably set up a record for eat crow and vomit crow threads. Yes, Randle was done in by injuries in the end, but that's why he shouldn't have taken things for granted and why he should have played hard from the get-go. Once he lost his final chance to redeem himself because of injuries, we were left with his poor body of work as evidence and guys citing a single month, when it should have been years of evidence. We get pissed off at the Knicks for not playing hard in Game 6. That's basically Randle for the past few years with us. Not sure if he got too comfortable here or maybe that his contract situation is spurring him to be different, but we've seen this before. This was the Randle we had during 2021-2022, the Randle I felt we should have always had. All he had to do was play hard tbh...that's on him. He's playing well in Minnesota? He's playing hard in Minnesota? Good on him. That's why we kept asking him to try hard, cause we knew he could do it.

I think the other question is how our center rotation would have resolved itself too. No KAT in the regular season, no Mitch. I might still regret KAT though...I think in the end, I'd rather dump all those dudes for Giannis.

[spree8]

Remember it takes Julius a year to get comfortable. If they keep him next year he will probably get back to all NBA or All Star level.

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It hasn’t even been a year. He’s already back at an all nba all star level and now just went 29 8 and 5 on 13-18 shooting in an elimination game. I don’t expect apologies from the people who tormented his fans for years for backing him insisting he can’t mentally perform in the playoffs and ignoring all the circumstances because that’s just not what we do here but just the sweet sound of their continued silence on the matter is enough

Yea I never understood the playoff thing… it seemed like people (more non Knick fans) just didn’t know wtf they were talking about because they didn’t watch and only looked at stats.

But it was obvious to anyone who knew what they were talking about that the Hawks series was like 1 man against 5 and he was physically destroyed the next playoffs. Just dunno how people insisted on making themselves look foolish just to hate

[3toheadmelo]

It hasn’t even been a year. He’s already back at an all nba all star level and now just went 29 8 and 5 on 13-18 shooting in an elimination game. I don’t expect apologies from the people who tormented his fans for years for backing him insisting he can’t mentally perform in the playoffs and ignoring all the circumstances because that’s just not what we do here but just the sweet sound of their continued silence on the matter is enough

Yea I never understood the playoff thing… it seemed like people (more non Knick fans) just didn’t know wtf they were talking about because they didn’t watch and only looked at stats.

But it was obvious to anyone who knew what they were talking about that the Hawks series was like 1 man against 5 and he was physically destroyed the next playoffs. Just dunno how people insisted on making themselves look foolish just to hate

They’re just looking at stats without any context. even the post above you from knicksgadfly.. he’s saying Randle was given multiple chances to redeem himself in the playoffs. What reality did that happen in where he wasn’t hurt or the #1 option? Like come on man.

[3toheadmelo]

Randle headed to the conference finals before us

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He's been consistent too so far in the playoffs. You can rely on him most nights to get 24/5/6. That would be nice to have...

We’re really seeing all nba version of Randle in the playoffs. He just needed to be healthy..

[robillionaire]

Yea I never understood the playoff thing… it seemed like people (more non Knick fans) just didn’t know wtf they were talking about because they didn’t watch and only looked at stats.

But it was obvious to anyone who knew what they were talking about that the Hawks series was like 1 man against 5 and he was physically destroyed the next playoffs. Just dunno how people insisted on making themselves look foolish just to hate

They’re just looking at stats without any context. even the post above you from knicksgadfly.. he’s saying Randle was given multiple chances to redeem himself in the playoffs. What reality did that happen in where he wasn’t hurt or the #1 option? Like come on man.

Well look, his critics weren’t wrong that he wasn’t good in those two playoff series, but as I said, there were clear and obvious circumstances to explain each of those from inexperience to a bad roster to major injury and good reason to believe that if he could ever get back again and healthy, on a talented team with another option like the one he was on with Brunson when they were both all stars or now with Edwards, he would prove it. but when you just hate someone, you ignore the circumstances. I was sad that he got injured last season because if he didn’t, now in hindsight knowing this is who he could have been, perhaps we’d have won the championship. But he’s proven himself capable of doing the main thing his top critics always said he couldn’t do as their last and final goalposts, he demonstrably can be a great player in the playoffs. I guess the new hurdle will be that he can’t win a ring and well, idk maybe he will maybe he won’t, Charles Barkley Karl Malone and Patrick Ewing didn’t win rings either, it is what it is.

[Gravy]

He's been consistent too so far in the playoffs. You can rely on him most nights to get 24/5/5. That would be nice to have...

KAT is giving us 20 and 11 on 49/37/91 shooting splits in the playoffs. He has been rebounding the ball very well for us and scoring very difficult shots in the paint and mid-range.

The roles that Randle and KAT have are different.

Randle is clearly given the green light to be the 2nd leading scorer on the Wolves. The only other two guys scoring in double figures in the playoffs for the Wolves are JAden McDaniels with 15 ppg and Naz Reid with 11 ppg.

On the Knicks, not only do we have Brunson scoring 29+ ppg, we have OG and Mikal both at 15 ppg, and Josh at 14 ppg. That is happening because of KAT's willingness to be unselfish, play within his role on the offensive end, and do what the team is asking of him.

One of big points here is Thibs system favors Randle over KAT, which made this trade stupid because this team absolutely needs a 2nd ISO guy to make Thibs offense look brilliant.

I mean Thibs system made him start the as game for the first time in his career. This is the way KAT has always been, even Mitch is like wtf is he doing. I know someone must have blamed Thibs for that too lol

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[MrDollarBills]

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After last night, I'm begging for it as long as we can keep Brunson and OG.

[Guano]

last years team plus the mikal trade so hart and divo can come off the bench. we would win the chip this year with ease.

thanks a lot ihart **** bozo

Without any reliable center we would be far worse.

Is kat a reliable c ?

[ctorres]

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somehow, KAT and either Mikal or OG for Giannis and Kuzma works on spotrac

[eagle54]

send kuzma far far away in another team please

[GettinitDone]

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somehow, KAT and either Mikal or OG for Giannis and Kuzma works on spotrac

Gotta be KAT and Mikal. I'm not giving up OG

[3toheadmelo]

Some good news for Tatum

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[sol537]

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somehow, KAT and either Mikal or OG for Giannis and Kuzma works on spotrac

Gotta be KAT and Mikal. I'm not giving up OG

KAT and Mikal for Giannis and Porter could get it done. They'd be getting back two all-star level players under the age of 30 and could be a playoff team for the next 4-5 seasons when they don't have a reason to tank (picks held by NOP)

[Wildcat]

Have to rethink the what ifs of doing the Kat trade all over again.

Add Mikal, keep Randle and Donte, where would we be now?

Finch is a very good offensive coach so that's helping Randle, plus playing with Ant

Meh...Randle had 5 years here to show us what he had...went to Minnesota and started hitting threes and playing defense. Randle really was the guy before Brunson...the cheap contract extension, the signing, returning us to the playoffs, even leading a tough defensive team during COVID...but his poor decisionmaking outweighed the good in the end. He was given many chances here - the opportunity to have his jersey in the rafters, the opportunity to lead and make this his team - and he gave it up. We talk about what we lost, but he lost a shyt-ton because he didn't treasure his opportunity.

Yea, I can't blame the Front Office for finally saying, enough. I don't know anyone else in New York professional sports who got the chances he did and I think he's probably set up a record for eat crow and vomit crow threads. Yes, Randle was done in by injuries in the end, but that's why he shouldn't have taken things for granted and why he should have played hard from the get-go. Once he lost his final chance to redeem himself because of injuries, we were left with his poor body of work as evidence and guys citing a single month, when it should have been years of evidence. We get pissed off at the Knicks for not playing hard in Game 6. That's basically Randle for the past few years with us. Not sure if he got too comfortable here or maybe that his contract situation is spurring him to be different, but we've seen this before. This was the Randle we had during 2021-2022, the Randle I felt we should have always had. All he had to do was play hard tbh...that's on him. He's playing well in Minnesota? He's playing hard in Minnesota? Good on him. That's why we kept asking him to try hard, cause we knew he could do it.

I think the other question is how our center rotation would have resolved itself too. No KAT in the regular season, no Mitch. I might still regret KAT though...I think in the end, I'd rather dump all those dudes for Giannis.

It's funny, because KAT has only been here for less than a year and this is who he is as he has been for the majority of his T-Wolves career.

[Wildcat]

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He doesn't like the Knicks. Gib doesn't know anything. It's called trolling with a capital T.

[3toheadmelo]

Love this by Randle. He said it aint about him, it's about the team. But remember people here said he was selfish. lol

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