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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#961 » by Traveyknicks23 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:36 am

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Blame him or get a shot to coach the team? Get a shot to coach the team because he won coach of the year in the g league and seemed to get the most out of his roster. Blame him because I'm just being cynical. What else do you expect people to do?


And that some how adequated to him being the right guy for the job?


As the interim coach for the remainder of the season? Definitely worth a shot to see what he can do at this level. You aren't hiring someone new who isn't already on the bench in the middle of the season. It rarely happens and isn't a smart idea anyway.

If miller actually does a decent job (this doesn't mean a ton of wins, just getting good performances out of the younger players and run a cohesive offense/defense) then it would be a smart internal hire.

I don't know if knicks management has the balls or foresight to do it, but it'd be a pleasant surprise.


Rather fiz finish the season firing coaches like that isn’t a good look I mean you do that right and who in the hell would wanna touch this job after that? I just don’t believe for a second mike Miller would be the right guy then again I’m just a fan so who knows? Outside of Mike who's already inside would be the right guy for this job?
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Post#962 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:40 am

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BallSacBounce wrote:Go tell that to the Spurs, c'mon.


The Spurs?! The same Spurs that a Hall of Famer (David Robinson) and All Star (Sean Elliot) got hurt on within the first month of that season?? I’m assuming you’re referencing the Duncan draft.. That’s what you call tanking?


Just because they already had talent doesnt mean they didnt tank,,,they sure as hell did...Goldenstate is doing the same thing.

It's also proving my point. One guy isn't enough. You need to tank some more.
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Post#963 » by RHODEY » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:43 am

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The Spurs?! The same Spurs that a Hall of Famer (David Robinson) and All Star (Sean Elliot) got hurt on within the first month of that season?? I’m assuming you’re referencing the Duncan draft.. That’s what you call tanking?


Just because they already had talent doesnt mean they didnt tank,,,they sure as hell did...Goldenstate is doing the same thing.

It's also proving my point. One guy isn't enough. You need to tank some more.


If you are really bad (we are) you dont need to tank, but yeah we need more talent.
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Post#964 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:46 am

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The Spurs?! The same Spurs that a Hall of Famer (David Robinson) and All Star (Sean Elliot) got hurt on within the first month of that season?? I’m assuming you’re referencing the Duncan draft.. That’s what you call tanking?


Just because they already had talent doesnt mean they didnt tank,,,they sure as hell did...Goldenstate is doing the same thing.


The spurs tank was by circumstance had they never gotten injured they never would have done it.the tanking really isn’t the answer anymore especially now with the changes to the draft.

Well what really is the answer then? LMAO, premium FA's are not coming here. You want to go back to the treadmill years. Eff that.
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#965 » by Traveyknicks23 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:46 am

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Just because they already had talent doesnt mean they didnt tank,,,they sure as hell did...Goldenstate is doing the same thing.

It's also proving my point. One guy isn't enough. You need to tank some more.


If you are really bad (we are) you dont need to tank, but yeah we need more talent.


I don’t see how it’s sustainable now not that we have a choice but it’s really risky
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Post#966 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:48 am

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BallSacBounce wrote:It's also proving my point. One guy isn't enough. You need to tank some more.


If you are really bad (we are) you dont need to tank, but yeah we need more talent.


I don’t see how it’s sustainable now not that we have a choice but it’s really risky

Welp, we tried doing it your way the last 20 years and it hasn't done squat, why not try something different?
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Post#967 » by RHODEY » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:49 am

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BallSacBounce wrote:It's also proving my point. One guy isn't enough. You need to tank some more.


If you are really bad (we are) you dont need to tank, but yeah we need more talent.


I don’t see how it’s sustainable now not that we have a choice but it’s really risky


How what is sustainable? Losing? What's at risk, our rep is already trashed.
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Post#968 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:56 am

At least with the draft we might get lucky. Building any other way requires intelligent design and we're not having any of that around here. But sucking, we can do that!
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#969 » by Traveyknicks23 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:57 am

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Just because they already had talent doesnt mean they didnt tank,,,they sure as hell did...Goldenstate is doing the same thing.


The spurs tank was by circumstance had they never gotten injured they never would have done it.the tanking really isn’t the answer anymore especially now with the changes to the draft.

Well what really is the answer then? LMAO, premium FA's are not coming here. You want to go back to the treadmill years. Eff that.


Honestly those treadmill teams win more than we do now lol would possibly fix our rep around the league somewhat but on a serious note they probably wouldn’t be treadmill teams if it wasn’t for where they play.Tanking isn’t as easy as it was years ago we were the worst team in the league and still only ended up picking 3rd look how many games the lakers and pelicans won and look where they ended up selecting.idk if we should all once again be placing all our hopes into a 40% chance
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Post#970 » by aq_ua » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:59 am

Daryl Morey is the guy we need to replace Mills and Perry. I really hope that friction with Tilman is real and the Rockets fire him soon.
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Post#971 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:02 am

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The spurs tank was by circumstance had they never gotten injured they never would have done it.the tanking really isn’t the answer anymore especially now with the changes to the draft.

Well what really is the answer then? LMAO, premium FA's are not coming here. You want to go back to the treadmill years. Eff that.


Honestly those treadmill teams win more than we do now lol would possibly fix our rep around the league somewhat but on a serious note they probably wouldn’t be treadmill teams if it wasn’t for where they play.Tanking isn’t as easy as it was years ago we were the worst team in the league and still only ended up picking 3rd look how many games the lakers and pelicans won and look where they ended up selecting.idk if we should all once again be placing all our hopes into a 40% chance

The other side of that coin is we can get a couple real solid youngins, then get lucky and draft much higher than we should. And we would have cap flexibility to flesh the team out. Whatever way you take luck is involved I'm not denying that. We've tried the Isiah Thomas asset roster shuffle, the clear the decks for premium FA's spring cleaning, why not give tanking a shot?
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Post#972 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:03 am

aq_ua wrote:Daryl Morey is the guy we need to replace Mills and Perry. I really hope that friction with Tilman is real and the Rockets fire him soon.

He might actually be attainable. I don't think Masai is going anywhere. He'd be nuts to leave his situation.
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#973 » by Traveyknicks23 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:07 am

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If you are really bad (we are) you dont need to tank, but yeah we need more talent.


I don’t see how it’s sustainable now not that we have a choice but it’s really risky

Welp, we tried doing it your way the last 20 years and it hasn't done squat, why not try something different?


Idk if we ever really did cause it just felt like we were just tossing money around for the sake of doing it I also felt like we had no direction and were capped out for majority of it.Right now we have cap friendly deals that we can move if need be I just want those guys to go out and compete and play hard every night playing to win period
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Post#974 » by G_K_F » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:08 am

What about Sam Presti?

I think he's always done great with garbage ownership so he'd be great for our situation. But he would need to be allowed to bring in his own guys top to bottom in every facet of the franchise.
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Post#975 » by god shammgod » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:10 am

BallSacBounce wrote:At least with the draft we might get lucky. Building any other way requires intelligent design and we're not having any of that around here. But sucking, we can do that!


this guy gets it. we haven't had anyone in management here who knew what they were doing for years. so just suck and get that top 5 pick. it requires no skill. in fact a lack of skill helps it. we can do that.
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Re: WOJ: Knicks president [Mills] angling for David Fizdale firing 

Post#976 » by Traveyknicks23 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:13 am

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BallSacBounce wrote:Well what really is the answer then? LMAO, premium FA's are not coming here. You want to go back to the treadmill years. Eff that.


Honestly those treadmill teams win more than we do now lol would possibly fix our rep around the league somewhat but on a serious note they probably wouldn’t be treadmill teams if it wasn’t for where they play.Tanking isn’t as easy as it was years ago we were the worst team in the league and still only ended up picking 3rd look how many games the lakers and pelicans won and look where they ended up selecting.idk if we should all once again be placing all our hopes into a 40% chance

The other side of that coin is we can get a couple real solid youngins, then get lucky and draft much higher than we should. And we would have cap flexibility to flesh the team out. Whatever way you take luck is involved I'm not denying that. We've tried the Isiah Thomas asset roster shuffle, the clear the decks for premium FA's spring cleaning, why not give tanking a shot?


I still think we have cap flexibility now and a lot of these deals a moveable but truthfully if they didn’t change the draft set up I’d be right with you it’s just that the fact everything hinges on those damn odds is what has me caught up about it
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Post#977 » by BallSacBounce » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:21 am

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Honestly those treadmill teams win more than we do now lol would possibly fix our rep around the league somewhat but on a serious note they probably wouldn’t be treadmill teams if it wasn’t for where they play.Tanking isn’t as easy as it was years ago we were the worst team in the league and still only ended up picking 3rd look how many games the lakers and pelicans won and look where they ended up selecting.idk if we should all once again be placing all our hopes into a 40% chance

The other side of that coin is we can get a couple real solid youngins, then get lucky and draft much higher than we should. And we would have cap flexibility to flesh the team out. Whatever way you take luck is involved I'm not denying that. We've tried the Isiah Thomas asset roster shuffle, the clear the decks for premium FA's spring cleaning, why not give tanking a shot?


I still think we have cap flexibility now and a lot of these deals a moveable but truthfully if they didn’t change the draft set up I’d be right with you it’s just that the fact everything hinges on those damn odds is what has me caught up about it

They've changed those odds a lot over the years who's to say if we do a miss the next two years they don't change it back. Only sport that fools with the odds at all. Worst team should get the best pick and so on. This crap is nerve wracking to a distraught and desperate fanbase.
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Post#978 » by Jeff Van Gully » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:58 am

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Post#979 » by Marty McFly » Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:12 am

The next FO needs to hire the next coach. Don’t want to hear **** about this FO doing anything but packing up their ****.
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Post#980 » by matchman » Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:39 am

Why not both?
Are you fans of the team or the player?

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