2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

[Drazen8]

The player we should be after is batum

With kemba hitting free agency they either have to let him walk for nothing or sign him to a very large contract

Jordan hasn’t shown any willingness to blow it up and rebuild
But at the same time the Lux tax is gonna be hard to stomach for a team that’s clearly not going anywhere and struggles to sell tickets now

Perhaps there is a way to steal batum from them for a combination of cap relief and a player like Willy

I think a two way, Swiss Army knife SF with vet experience would be exactly what we need

I’d be willing to lose Willy and koq and probably Beasley and Thomas or lee plus potentially the chi pick for batum

Sure he’s pricy but he’s worth it and still young enough

I wouldn’t want to give up Willy if we didn’t have to or that chi pick but I don’t think they show interest otherwise

Thoughts?

I don't want totake on salary for more than $12 mil without getting First round picks.

[Knicksfan1992]

The player we should be after is batum

With kemba hitting free agency they either have to let him walk for nothing or sign him to a very large contract

Jordan hasn’t shown any willingness to blow it up and rebuild
But at the same time the Lux tax is gonna be hard to stomach for a team that’s clearly not going anywhere and struggles to sell tickets now

Perhaps there is a way to steal batum from them for a combination of cap relief and a player like Willy

I think a two way, Swiss Army knife SF with vet experience would be exactly what we need

I’d be willing to lose Willy and koq and probably Beasley and Thomas or lee plus potentially the chi pick for batum

Sure he’s pricy but he’s worth it and still young enough

I wouldn’t want to give up Willy if we didn’t have to or that chi pick but I don’t think they show interest otherwise

Thoughts?

It would be interesting to explore in the offseason after we draft and have a clearer picture of what our team looks like going forward... Like if we draft Bagley or another big then Batum would make a ton of sense for example. Something like Enes (if he opts in), Willy and a 2nd could probably get it done. They get cap relief in Enes, a prospect in Willy, and a 2nd for their troubles...

[Drazen8]

would you take back pekovic and cole aldrich for noah and a pick?

Pec retired.
I heard early in the season the Wolves were willing to give a 2nd to get rid of Aldrich. That I would do.

[NoLayupRule]

The player we should be after is batum

With kemba hitting free agency they either have to let him walk for nothing or sign him to a very large contract

Jordan hasn’t shown any willingness to blow it up and rebuild
But at the same time the Lux tax is gonna be hard to stomach for a team that’s clearly not going anywhere and struggles to sell tickets now

Perhaps there is a way to steal batum from them for a combination of cap relief and a player like Willy

I think a two way, Swiss Army knife SF with vet experience would be exactly what we need

I’d be willing to lose Willy and koq and probably Beasley and Thomas or lee plus potentially the chi pick for batum

Sure he’s pricy but he’s worth it and still young enough

I wouldn’t want to give up Willy if we didn’t have to or that chi pick but I don’t think they show interest otherwise

Thoughts?

I don't want totake on salary for more than $12 mil without getting First round picks.

That’s pure fantasy
People don’t give up picks and good players to save money

Time to be slightly realistic

[NoLayupRule]

The player we should be after is batum

With kemba hitting free agency they either have to let him walk for nothing or sign him to a very large contract

Jordan hasn’t shown any willingness to blow it up and rebuild
But at the same time the Lux tax is gonna be hard to stomach for a team that’s clearly not going anywhere and struggles to sell tickets now

Perhaps there is a way to steal batum from them for a combination of cap relief and a player like Willy

I think a two way, Swiss Army knife SF with vet experience would be exactly what we need

I’d be willing to lose Willy and koq and probably Beasley and Thomas or lee plus potentially the chi pick for batum

Sure he’s pricy but he’s worth it and still young enough

I wouldn’t want to give up Willy if we didn’t have to or that chi pick but I don’t think they show interest otherwise

Thoughts?

It would be interesting to explore in the offseason after we draft and have a clearer picture of what our team looks like going forward... Like if we draft Bagley or another big then Batum would make a ton of sense for example. Something like Enes (if he opts in), Willy and a 2nd could probably get it done. They get cap relief in Enes, a prospect in Willy, and a 2nd for their troubles...

Well sadly we’re not landing a top 3 pick realistically

We’re bad but good enough to win 30+ games and get the 8th pick again

And we can’t trade enes. We just signed him and the deadline is in 3 weeks

Cap relief would have to come from expirings like koq and Beasley
And matching salary at the low threshold
Like baker and Thomas and koq or something

[dakomish23]

The guys on the OKC board liked either deal

LFT for Singler Huestis
Lee for Singler Abrines

[HarthorneWingo]

The guys on the OKC board liked either deal

LFT for Singler Huestis
Lee for Singler Abrines

That makes some sense. They're a veteran team trying to make a push to keep their big three together, especially George.

We haven't had a redhead on the team since Doleac.

[HarthorneWingo]

Batum would be great. I just don't know how we would swing that.

[dakomish23]

Batum would be great. I just don't know how we would swing that.

Would take less than you’d imagine at this point. Maybe that changes, but he had a mediocre year last year and this year hasn’t been great either.

[dakomish23]

The guys on the OKC board liked either deal

LFT for Singler Huestis
Lee for Singler Abrines

That makes some sense. They're a veteran team trying to make a push to keep their big three together, especially George.

We haven't had a redhead on the team since Doleac.

Wasn’t Doleac blonde? Isn’t Singler blonde?

Maybe I don’t know hair colors

[HarthorneWingo]

The guys on the OKC board liked either deal

LFT for Singler Huestis
Lee for Singler Abrines

That makes some sense. They're a veteran team trying to make a push to keep their big three together, especially George.

We haven't had a redhead on the team since Doleac.

Wasn’t Doleac blonde? Isn’t Singler blonde?

Maybe I don’t know hair colors

Nah, they both got that freckled face blue-eyed look ... as I recall. Maybe it was strawberry blonde?

[Drazen8]

The player we should be after is batum

With kemba hitting free agency they either have to let him walk for nothing or sign him to a very large contract

Jordan hasn’t shown any willingness to blow it up and rebuild
But at the same time the Lux tax is gonna be hard to stomach for a team that’s clearly not going anywhere and struggles to sell tickets now

Perhaps there is a way to steal batum from them for a combination of cap relief and a player like Willy

I think a two way, Swiss Army knife SF with vet experience would be exactly what we need

I’d be willing to lose Willy and koq and probably Beasley and Thomas or lee plus potentially the chi pick for batum

Sure he’s pricy but he’s worth it and still young enough

I wouldn’t want to give up Willy if we didn’t have to or that chi pick but I don’t think they show interest otherwise

Thoughts?

I don't want totake on salary for more than $12 mil without getting First round picks.

That’s pure fantasy
People don’t give up picks and good players to save money

Time to be slightly realistic

I was speaking in general but to get specific about Batum he is a $16-18mil per yr player who is grossly overpaid. In two years he is going to be Courtney Lee making $25.5 mil with a player option for the next at $27.

Teams give up picks to get rid of bad contracts that hamper them. (Hopefully we won't)
Give me a pick and an over paid bench warmer that expires with Noah and let the kids play.

Batum, the player, like CLee needs to be on a win now playoff team.
The Knicks have a ways to go.

KP is the most talented player but if you take away his scoring and the fruits of being 7'3", what do you have? He really isn't much farther along than Frank in basic skill, knowledge or physical coordination. Lots of work to be done, IMO.

So, "stealing" Batum and adding another cell to the teams contractual prison while giving up assets is your idea of realistic?

[NoLayupRule]

I don't want totake on salary for more than $12 mil without getting First round picks.

That’s pure fantasy
People don’t give up picks and good players to save money

Time to be slightly realistic

I was speaking in general but to get specific about Batum he is a $16-18mil per yr player who is grossly overpaid. In two years he is going to be Courtney Lee making $25.5 mil with a player option for the next at $27.

Teams give up picks to get rid of bad contracts that hamper them. (Hopefully we won't)
Give me a pick and an over paid bench warmer that expires with Noah and let the kids play.

Batum, the player, like CLee needs to be on a win now playoff team.
The Knicks have a ways to go.

KP is the most talented player but if you take away his scoring and the fruits of being 7'3", what do you have? He really isn't much farther along than Frank in basic skill, knowledge or physical coordination. Lots of work to be done, IMO.

So, "stealing" Batum and adding another cell to the teams contractual prison while giving up assets is your idea of realistic?

it is

I think adding Batum makes us a playoff team immediately

with Frank and Hardaway in the backcourt and KP and Kanter down low a two way, playmaking, shot marking, leader who also happens to be french and is in the late prime of his career would be a great addition even if it costs us Willy

[Jeff Van Gully]

would you take back pekovic and cole aldrich for noah and a pick?

Pec retired.
I heard early in the season the Wolves were willing to give a 2nd to get rid of Aldrich. That I would do.

i know. but isn't his contract still on their books this year?

[Capn'O]

The guys on the OKC board liked either deal

LFT for Singler Huestis
Lee for Singler Abrines

I like the first. I haven't seen much about Abrines that screams getting him would be a good idea.

[Capn'O]

I'm with dakomish on the hair color thing. Maybe this is like that dress and we're just not going to agree on color.

[Drazen8]

would you take back pekovic and cole aldrich for noah and a pick?

Pec retired.
I heard early in the season the Wolves were willing to give a 2nd to get rid of Aldrich. That I would do.

i know. but isn't his contract still on their books this year?

I don't know if it was a buy out or if insurance is paying for it but I don't see him on the active roster. I do see his salary listed on Hoopshype but I don't think that can be traded. Listed as deadcap on Sportstrac.

[Drazen8]

it is

I think adding Batum makes us a playoff team immediately

with Frank and Hardaway in the backcourt and KP and Kanter down low a two way, playmaking, shot marking, leader who also happens to be french and is in the late prime of his career would be a great addition even if it costs us Willy

I think the cost is greater than Willy. We'll just have to disagree on that.

[NBA Fan 1234]

The guys on the OKC board liked either deal

LFT for Singler Huestis
Lee for Singler Abrines

I like the first. I haven't seen much about Abrines that screams getting him would be a good idea.

I like Abrines, but Huestis has real nice 3/D potential once that shot starts falling like it should.

[dakomish23]

The player we should be after is batum

With kemba hitting free agency they either have to let him walk for nothing or sign him to a very large contract

Jordan hasn’t shown any willingness to blow it up and rebuild
But at the same time the Lux tax is gonna be hard to stomach for a team that’s clearly not going anywhere and struggles to sell tickets now

Perhaps there is a way to steal batum from them for a combination of cap relief and a player like Willy

I think a two way, Swiss Army knife SF with vet experience would be exactly what we need

I’d be willing to lose Willy and koq and probably Beasley and Thomas or lee plus potentially the chi pick for batum

Sure he’s pricy but he’s worth it and still young enough

I wouldn’t want to give up Willy if we didn’t have to or that chi pick but I don’t think they show interest otherwise

Thoughts?

I don't want totake on salary for more than $12 mil without getting First round picks.

That’s pure fantasy
People don’t give up picks and good players to save money

Time to be slightly realistic

TOR just did that this summer