Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson - Pg 97-8 - Block Ness Monster catching on

awy · Post #981 » by **awy** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:24 am

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/video-mitchell-robinson-2018-nba-summer-league/?

postgame. picking ad’s brain, fouling less and more

stuporman · Post #982 » by **stuporman** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:03 am

AD isn't a good comparison for Mitch, AD had refined guard skills coming into the league and Mitch aint anywhere near that level of ball skills. The comparison to AD might be found in that both of them have great hands and feet as well as their athleticism. Beyond that Mitch is much more raw skill wise than AD was when he was drafted.

Can he eventually develop the type of ball skills AD has? I guess it's possible because Mitch has the hands and feet to allow for it but I wouldn't expect it, predict it or be disappointed if he never does. He can still be a special impact player even if he doesn't ever get to that skill level.

KP came into the league with a similar skill level as AD and could develop along similar lines, though. Mitch can just refine and excel at a smaller skill set he already possesses and he will still be much better than the 'run, jump and dunk' big men like Jordan.

In fact, Mitch just might be one of those players that defies comparison and eventually be the player that others get compared to the way that everyone is looking for the next KP now.

Cookies4Life · Post #983 » by **Cookies4Life** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:07 am

This team really lucked out. It's very hard for me to believe he wouldn't have been a top 10 pick had he gone to college for a year.

I'm having a hard time believing Mo Bamba is currently better than him. Granted, Mo has a freakish wingspan but I don't see anything he does on the floor better than Robinson. Mitchell is a lottery talent who we were able to steal in the 2nd round and the best part about it is he didn't fall so many spot due to an injury. I don't really see any concerns with him playing for this squad next season. The g-league would be a waste of his talents, I'd rather see him as the backup big for the squad and continue to develop him during practices. He already looks like a man amongst boys.

DrCoach · Post #984 » by **DrCoach** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:39 am

He needs all the backup C minutes.

He looks like a taller Camby to me

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Fat Kat · Post #985 » by **Fat Kat** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:46 am

Kornet needs to go suit shopping.

NYKAL · Post #986 » by **NYKAL** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:21 pm

this pick came in the Melo deal if I'm not mistaken. Thank you again OKC

Post #987 » by **j4remi** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:44 pm

Let's be real about Mitch Robinson, he's got a gang of rough edges. He just overwhelmed a team even though he is SUPER raw. Like dude's footwork is made up for by how fast and agile he moves them. He gets caught out there on positioning, sometimes he overcorrects too; but his instincts and ability to read and react to the play on the floor is bonkers so he gets away with it. He needs work on his screen setting, but he dives hard and his athleticism makes him such a threat that it still gets him buckets on the roll. He's skinny too fam; he's winning rebound battles strictly off of ALWAYS going after the ball.

That performance yesterday is scary when you consider it's a lot more natural ability than polished game. You can surmise that he hasn't been playing competitively or at least not for long and yet he owned the inside. Fiz has to work hard though, bad habits can develop when things come easy to you (though I think once they get to the preseason and regular season, he'll NEED to improve some of the technical aspects to keep it up). 4 years of polish at a sweetheart deal; we got one of the steals of the draft.

Knicksfan1992 · Post #988 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:58 pm

j4remi wrote:Let's be real about Mitch Robinson, he's got a gang of rough edges. He just overwhelmed a team even though he is SUPER raw. Like dude's footwork is made up for by how fast and agile he moves them. He gets caught out there on positioning, sometimes he overcorrects too; but his instincts and ability to read and react to the play on the floor is bonkers so he gets away with it. He needs work on his screen setting, but he dives hard and his athleticism makes him such a threat that it still gets him buckets on the roll. He's skinny too fam; he's winning rebound battles strictly off of ALWAYS going after the ball.

That performance yesterday is scary when you consider it's a lot more natural ability than polished game. You can surmise that he hasn't been playing competitively or at least not for long and yet he owned the inside. Fiz has to work hard though, bad habits can develop when things come easy to you (though I think once they get to the preseason and regular season, he'll NEED to improve some of the technical aspects to keep it up). 4 years of polish at a sweetheart deal; we got one of the steals of the draft.

Not that I wanna bash KP or compare the 2 but even though Mitch is skinny he's rugged inside and that's why he's beasting dudes inside on the boards. He's simply tougher than most of these dudes are or want to be. He's more aggressive and his motor is ridiculously high. KP can learn a thing or 2 from that but he can complement KP well also down the line.

earthmansurfer · Post #989 » by **earthmansurfer** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:14 pm

Cookies4Life wrote:This team really lucked out. It's very hard for me to believe he wouldn't have been a top 10 pick had he gone to college for a year.

I'm having a hard time believing Mo Bamba is currently better than him. Granted, Mo has a freakish wingspan but I don't see anything he does on the floor better than Robinson. Mitchell is a lottery talent who we were able to steal in the 2nd round and the best part about it is he didn't fall so many spot due to an injury. I don't really see any concerns with him playing for this squad next season. The g-league would be a waste of his talents, I'd rather see him as the backup big for the squad and continue to develop him during practices. He already looks like a man amongst boys.

Well said, when you watch Mitch play, I am thinking top 10 pick. He is just so talented and even though he is raw, he does things out there that you can't teach. e.g. Catching a rebound and doing a 180 for a jam. I mean he is doing stuff that blows my mind. e.g. 6 blocks. I am extremely excited about having 2 lotto picks in that draft. 8-)

I don't mind him spending time in the G league to come up to speed, but I can see him, with his athleticism, being able to rebound, block and do putbacks and such at the NBA level.

thebuzzardman · Post #990 » by **thebuzzardman** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:20 pm

stuporman wrote:AD isn't a good comparison for Mitch, AD had refined guard skills coming into the league and Mitch aint anywhere near that level of ball skills. The comparison to AD might be found in that both of them have great hands and feet as well as their athleticism. Beyond that Mitch is much more raw skill wise than AD was when he was drafted.

Can he eventually develop the type of ball skills AD has? I guess it's possible because Mitch has the hands and feet to allow for it but I wouldn't expect it, predict it or be disappointed if he never does. He can still be a special impact player even if he doesn't ever get to that skill level.

KP came into the league with a similar skill level as AD and could develop along similar lines, though. Mitch can just refine and excel at a smaller skill set he already possesses and he will still be much better than the 'run, jump and dunk' big men like Jordan.

In fact, Mitch just might be one of those players that defies comparison and eventually be the player that others get compared to the way that everyone is looking for the next KP now.

Young Camby

camillepd · Post #991 » by **camillepd** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:28 pm

He is better than Camby. I still say the next AD.

NYKAL · Post #992 » by **NYKAL** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:50 pm

guys on the Gen board calling him lazy and unmotivated. Love hearing posts from guys who don't know wtf they are talking about. Can't post there (suspended for a while now) but, why would I want to deal with that level of ignorance. I really want to see how he looks against a real center. Preseason is gonna be lit.

HEZI · Post #993 » by **HEZI** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:05 pm

NYKAL wrote:guys on the Gen board calling him lazy and unmotivated. Love hearing posts from guys who don't know wtf they are talking about. Can't post there (suspended for a while now) but, why would I want to deal with that level of ignorance. I really want to see how he looks against a real center. Preseason is gonna be lit.

If this is the lazy and unmotivated version of him then what will the not lazy and motivated version look like?

MaseInYourFace · Post #994 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:05 pm

NYKAL wrote:guys on the Gen board calling him lazy and unmotivated. Love hearing posts from guys who don't know wtf they are talking about. Can't post there (suspended for a while now) but, why would I want to deal with that level of ignorance. I really want to see how he looks against a real center. Preseason is gonna be lit.

Yeah lazy analysis. What's new on general board? The thing with Robinson he looks like that type of kid but he isn't. Add to that his backstory. He's getting stereotyped. Plus not to mention the Knicks hate.

IllmaticHandler · Post #995 » by **IllmaticHandler** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:14 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:
j4remi wrote:Let's be real about Mitch Robinson, he's got a gang of rough edges. He just overwhelmed a team even though he is SUPER raw. Like dude's footwork is made up for by how fast and agile he moves them. He gets caught out there on positioning, sometimes he overcorrects too; but his instincts and ability to read and react to the play on the floor is bonkers so he gets away with it. He needs work on his screen setting, but he dives hard and his athleticism makes him such a threat that it still gets him buckets on the roll. He's skinny too fam; he's winning rebound battles strictly off of ALWAYS going after the ball.

That performance yesterday is scary when you consider it's a lot more natural ability than polished game. You can surmise that he hasn't been playing competitively or at least not for long and yet he owned the inside. Fiz has to work hard though, bad habits can develop when things come easy to you (though I think once they get to the preseason and regular season, he'll NEED to improve some of the technical aspects to keep it up). 4 years of polish at a sweetheart deal; we got one of the steals of the draft.

Not that I wanna bash KP or compare the 2 but even though Mitch is skinny he's rugged inside and that's why he's beasting dudes inside on the boards. He's simply tougher than most of these dudes are or want to be. He's more aggressive and his motor is ridiculously high. KP can learn a thing or 2 from that but he can complement KP well also down the line.

Agreed it was not just athletic ability it was also will. Dude likes to Mix in up inside.

Lord Commander · Post #996 » by **Lord Commander** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:15 pm

https://es.pn/2KQIUot

Knicksfan1992 · Post #997 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:27 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:
NYKAL wrote:guys on the Gen board calling him lazy and unmotivated. Love hearing posts from guys who don't know wtf they are talking about. Can't post there (suspended for a while now) but, why would I want to deal with that level of ignorance. I really want to see how he looks against a real center. Preseason is gonna be lit.

Yeah lazy analysis. What's new on general board? The thing with Robinson he looks like that type of kid but he isn't. Add to that his backstory. He's getting stereotyped. Plus not to mention the Knicks hate.

I don't know how you can watch 5 minutes of this dude play and come away with that take. If anything he's too aggressive and active out there :lol:

Juco24 · Post #998 » by **Juco24** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:35 pm

Wasted signing. Seems to be a good guy. Be good in system that's competing for a title as a good bench guy not a team rebuilding. Will NEVER forget the argument i had with a few posters -who wont show themselves- that said Baker was better than Burke! LMAO! Good luck and good bye. Rather give the pt to Trier

Spree2Houston · Post #999 » by **Spree2Houston** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:01 pm

Can't wait for next year when we play the Rockets. Harden gets the pick and has Robinson on him by center court 3point line. He does his dance and pulls back for his 3, Robinson comes up and SWATS it, gets the ball, runs down the court, and dunks from the free throw line.

Knicksfan1992 · Post #1000 » by **Knicksfan1992** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:09 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:Can't wait for next year when we play the Rockets. Harden gets the pick and has Robinson on him by center court 3point line. He does his dance and pulls back for his 3, Robinson comes up and SWATS it, gets the ball, runs down the court, and dunks from the free throw line.

Does this fantasy include the 3-4 fouls Harden is going to draw before that play from Mitch reaching on every drive before that? :lol: