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Re: Knicks Get Reddish per Woj 

Post#981 » by TerrenceClarke » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:00 am

3toheadmelo wrote:very disappointing that we stopped talking about how GreenArrow is also dkilla and he somehow got away with it!!!!!



I heard this was you in the gym after hearing Cam was traded to the Knicks. :o


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Re: Knicks Get Reddish per Woj 

Post#982 » by dakomish23 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:01 am

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I actually remember being excited b/c he had the athleticism to attempt it :lol:

I feel like he might need someone to work with him on the mental side of understanding the game. There’s so much potential there but it’s going to require some patience.

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Post#983 » by god shammgod » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:02 am

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god shammgod wrote:legit junkies in here. to be this worked up over cam reddish either positively or negatively is really something.

We traded a first round draft pick - that potentially could've been included in a package deal for the star that you've been longing for - for a player whose career FG% is barely above Frank and Knox.

Your phlegm in this very moment is appalling :lol:


yeah, i don't like that. and he probably needs to be in a situation where wins don't matter while he develops. and it wasn't that way in atl and it won't be that way here. we don't have a coach who's gonna give young guys long leashes to make mistakes. but they were probably never getting that star anyway because...well...knicks. so why get worked up. :lol:
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Post#984 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:03 am

a couple days ago i was at walgreens and i saw this guy buying 20 packs of newports like he was about to flip them to a chain smoker. so i went up to him and asked him "hey do you know a sports forum known as realgm and if so, do you know a poster named godshammgod?" he said "yeah why?" all i can do at that point was say "ah just a random thought, have a good day".
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Re: Knicks Get Reddish per Woj 

Post#985 » by DowNY » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:04 am

god shammgod wrote:legit junkies in here. to be this worked up over cam reddish either positively or negatively is really something.

I expect nothing less
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Post#986 » by Chanel Bomber » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:04 am

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god shammgod wrote:legit junkies in here. to be this worked up over cam reddish either positively or negatively is really something.

We traded a first round draft pick - that potentially could've been included in a package deal for the star that you've been longing for - for a player whose career FG% is barely above Frank and Knox.

Your phlegm in this very moment is appalling :lol:


yeah, i don't like that. and he probably needs to be in a situation where wins don't matter while he develops. and it wasn't that way in atl and it won't be that way here. we don't have a coach who's gonna give young guys long leashes to make mistakes. but they were probably never getting that star anyway because...well...knicks. so why get worked up. :lol:

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Re: Knicks Get Reddish per Woj 

Post#987 » by stuporman » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:04 am

DRose was gotten for a disposable player and a 2nd early in the trade period, this deal includes a 1st and we know how valuable the perception of a 1st is regardless of how valuable it really is once it's used and again this deal was done pretty early in the trade period.

So my only concern is the asset was burned before the deadline has come because who knows what may happen over the next month and who comes available since that one extra pick may hurt the chances for the Knicks to score a 'star' like player if something unpredictable happens.

Does Leon have his ear to the grapevine more than the rest of do including the media so has an insight that others don't or did he rush to the table before the market matured? Time will tell.
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Re: Knicks Get Reddish per Woj 

Post#988 » by WargamesX » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:04 am

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Wtf what gives you that impression that he is low IQ, low motor, with attitude issues?

I been watching his interviews and he just seems like a team first guy that just wants to play

I agree he is injury prone, which is problematic for young players because these early years are when they learn the skills they rely on most of their career.

Availability is an underrated skill that defines a lot of young athletes.


I don't think its a much of a problem (for now). He had a major injury last season and it doesn't appear to be chronic. He is not a player with tons of little injuries. He played:
1 season 58/67 games -87%
2 season 26/72 games - 36%. He missed 42 games due to a specific injury.
3 season 34/39 games - 87%


Yeah but 1) they wanted to trade him last summer and tried to pull the finesse off of that playoff game. Then add in how many of those games he didn’t play in when he was healthy and the risk he could get injured again.

I like Cam, I like the trade for Cam. We didn’t pull off a high way robbery. Though we did get a deal on Cam likely because he is a bit injury prone and still raw.
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Post#989 » by WargamesX » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:05 am

stuporman wrote:DRose was gotten for a disposable player and a 2nd early in the trade period, this deal includes a 1st and we know how valuable the perception of a 1st is regardless of valuable it really is once it's used and again this deal was done pretty early in the trade period.

So my only concern is the asset was burned before the deadline has come because who knows what may happen over the next month and who comes available since that one extra pick may hurt the chances for the Knicks to score a 'star' like player if something unpredictable happens.

Does Leon have his ear to the grapevine more than the rest of do including the media so has an insight that others don't or did he rush to the table before the market matured? Time will tell.

We have all our own picks that just based on our team history holds more value than a top 18 protected Hornets pick. That pick was made to be traded in something like this.
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Re: Knicks Get Reddish per Woj 

Post#990 » by god shammgod » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:05 am

3toheadmelo wrote:a couple days ago i was at walgreens and i saw this guy buying 20 packs of newports like he was about to flip them to a chain smoker. so i went up to him and asked him "hey do you know a sports forum known as realgm and if so, do you know a poster named godshammgod?" he said "yeah why?" all i can do at that point was say "ah just a random thought, have a good day".


look at you crafting an elaborate joke :lol: are you mad because i said maybe knox could discover what's lost in his game in the folds of your stomach ?
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Post#991 » by DowNY » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:06 am

Chanel Bomber wrote:
god shammgod wrote:legit junkies in here. to be this worked up over cam reddish either positively or negatively is really something.

We traded a first round draft pick - that potentially could've been included in a package deal for the star that you've been longing for - for a player whose career FG% is barely above Frank and Knox.

Your phlegm in this very moment is appalling :lol:

What’s funny is that half this board trashed that same 1st round pick when it was acquired a couple months ago. Lol
Now all of sudden, it’s so valuable to some. As if we still don’t have our pick, future picks - including the Mavs next year & a lot of 2nds (which that Hornets 1st can technically turn into in a few years if it doesn’t convey).
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Post#992 » by TerrenceClarke » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:08 am

I know people have to play devils advocate, but this trade isn't it. Enjoy it if you love the Knicks.


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Post#993 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:09 am

god shammgod wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:a couple days ago i was at walgreens and i saw this guy buying 20 packs of newports like he was about to flip them to a chain smoker. so i went up to him and asked him "hey do you know a sports forum known as realgm and if so, do you know a poster named godshammgod?" he said "yeah why?" all i can do at that point was say "ah just a random thought, have a good day".


look at you crafting an elaborate joke :lol: are you mad because i said maybe knox could discover what's lost in his game in the folds of your stomach ?

it wasnt a joke though :o
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Post#994 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:11 am

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Post#995 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:13 am

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Post#996 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:13 am

god shammgod wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:
god shammgod wrote:legit junkies in here. to be this worked up over cam reddish either positively or negatively is really something.

We traded a first round draft pick - that potentially could've been included in a package deal for the star that you've been longing for - for a player whose career FG% is barely above Frank and Knox.

Your phlegm in this very moment is appalling :lol:


yeah, i don't like that. and he probably needs to be in a situation where wins don't matter while he develops. and it wasn't that way in atl and it won't be that way here. we don't have a coach who's gonna give young guys long leashes to make mistakes. but they were probably never getting that star anyway because...well...knicks. so why get worked up. :lol:



The way this could really work out in our favor is if Fournier has to miss time for whatever reason and Cam gets into the starting lineup and has one of those crazy stretches he is capable of having. If he does that he could potentially be interesting to flip for a star rather then a heavily protected 1st rounder .

But he will ultimately probably just come off the bench in a 20 minute a night role and consistently be inconsistent.
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Post#997 » by stuporman » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:13 am

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stuporman wrote:DRose was gotten for a disposable player and a 2nd early in the trade period, this deal includes a 1st and we know how valuable the perception of a 1st is regardless of valuable it really is once it's used and again this deal was done pretty early in the trade period.

So my only concern is the asset was burned before the deadline has come because who knows what may happen over the next month and who comes available since that one extra pick may hurt the chances for the Knicks to score a 'star' like player if something unpredictable happens.

Does Leon have his ear to the grapevine more than the rest of do including the media so has an insight that others don't or did he rush to the table before the market matured? Time will tell.

We have all our own picks that just based on our team history holds more value than a top 18 protected Hornets pick. That pick was made to be traded in something like this.


Or included in a package of picks for a star like player, there's no stamp on the bottom of the pick saying it's only to be used for a player another team has lost faith in and is getting rid of it while they still have some value.

It may be that there isn't a trade available that the loss of this pick hinders and maybe it does convey this summer in the 20s which the Knicks FO prefers not to use that soon.

This is all speculation we are doing and there's no guarantee things happen one way or another or assets need to be used one way or another.
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Post#998 » by Oscirus » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:16 am

if the pick is bothering people it shouldnt Its a garbage pick for a lotto ticket wutevs. If its the player.... then you're probs right to be concerned
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Post#999 » by TheGreenArrow » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:18 am

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Post#1000 » by Chanel Bomber » Fri Jan 14, 2022 12:18 am

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god shammgod wrote:legit junkies in here. to be this worked up over cam reddish either positively or negatively is really something.

We traded a first round draft pick - that potentially could've been included in a package deal for the star that you've been longing for - for a player whose career FG% is barely above Frank and Knox.

Your phlegm in this very moment is appalling :lol:

What’s funny is that half this board trashed that same 1st round pick when it was acquired a couple months ago. Lol
Now all of sudden, it’s so valuable to some. As if we still don’t have our pick, future picks - including the Mavs next year & a lot of 2nds (which that Hornets 1st can technically turn into in a few years if it doesn’t convey).

I think it was trashed because it went from a guaranteed first to a conditional first. But it's a first nonetheless.

We only have a finite number of firsts to trade. And trading that one means we're getting closer to trading our own if we reach the point where we need to trade a first, whether in a trade for a star or in a trade to clear capspace (eg a Fournier trade).

You can't treat a first round pick like it's nothing or trade it for a marginal player like Cam Reddish.

Imagine if (hypothetical scenario) James Harden wants to sign with the Knicks this offseason. We'd have one fewer first to trade to create capspace.

Imagine if Zion or Dame forces his way out of NO/Portland. That's an extra one of our own firsts we have to trade because the Charlotte pick is gone.

2nd rounders are mostly insignificant.

But hopefully Cam improves and plays well for the Knicks. I'm skeptical, but maybe a change of scenery is what he needed. My point was, we didn't trade nothing for him.

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