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Re: Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux 

Post#981 » by Reign23 » Sun Jul 3, 2022 7:26 pm

I don't think D-Mitch will be moved now. Maybe before the deadline....
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Post#982 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jul 3, 2022 7:41 pm

Donovan Mitchell is not the answer. We have foundational players now so when it comes to landing a big fish we should set our sights higher
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Post#983 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Jul 3, 2022 7:47 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Donovan Mitchell is not the answer. We have foundational players now so when it comes to landing a big fish we should set our sights higher


Anyone in mind? It is obviously the path they are taking but, I don't know who they are looking for. They may pounce on whatever big name is available and not build a solid roster. Brunson/Mitchell BC? Is that really a good plan?
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Post#984 » by DaGawd » Sun Jul 3, 2022 7:51 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Donovan Mitchell is not the answer. We have foundational players now so when it comes to landing a big fish we should set our sights higher

These mythical players will never come to light
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Post#985 » by omerome » Sun Jul 3, 2022 7:54 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Donovan Mitchell is not the answer. We have foundational players now so when it comes to landing a big fish we should set our sights higher

The last thing this team needs is to invest in a player that proves to be a mismatch and then cost ourselves tons of assets. If we are looking to contend, we will NEED perimeter defense. I mean look at how Boston still struggled against the likes of Curry, Klay, and even Poole. Granted, we're talking about amazing guys on GS, but can you imagine us putting all our chips on the table and then getting dissected by every guard in the league and there's nothing we can do about it?

If we are going for someone, it has to be someone who is a versatile player. One that plays on both sides of the court. No more one-dimensional players unless they are surrounded by defense stalwarts. And right now, Donovan Mitchell would be coming here to fail as he would just add to our existing problems on that end of the court.
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Post#986 » by Snacks » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:00 pm

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Clyde_Style wrote:Donovan Mitchell is not the answer. We have foundational players now so when it comes to landing a big fish we should set our sights higher


Anyone in mind? It is obviously the path they are taking but, I don't know who they are looking for. They may pounce on whatever big name is available and not build a solid roster. Brunson/Mitchell BC? Is that really a good plan?


Booker is the only player I can come up with at this point
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Post#987 » by Polk377 » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:00 pm

DaGawd wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Donovan Mitchell is not the answer. We have foundational players now so when it comes to landing a big fish we should set our sights higher

These mythical players will never come to light

Then you keep building organically while keeping the assets available. We need someone out of this young core to develop into a star.
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Post#988 » by omerome » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:01 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Donovan Mitchell is not the answer. We have foundational players now so when it comes to landing a big fish we should set our sights higher


Anyone in mind? It is obviously the path they are taking but, I don't know who they are looking for. They may pounce on whatever big name is available and not build a solid roster. Brunson/Mitchell BC? Is that really a good plan?

Well, we never know who could be the next unhappy player that wants off their team. There is some good talent out there, but we do just have to be patient.

I would have preferred the Knicks to continue to acquire more assets with their cap space, but since they did not, the goal now should focus on building a winning culture - at the very least. Then we can strike when the iron is hot. I mean, what if the likes of Davion Mitchell in two years are really tired of losing in SAC or Kuminga wants a bigger opportunity from GS? That could be our opportunity to use our assets to get one of them.

Wishful thinking, sure. But it's better than dumping everything just to fail anyways.
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Post#989 » by Capn'O » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:07 pm

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Post#990 » by KnixinSix » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:10 pm

omerome wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Donovan Mitchell is not the answer. We have foundational players now so when it comes to landing a big fish we should set our sights higher

The last thing this team needs is to invest in a player that proves to be a mismatch and then cost ourselves tons of assets. If we are looking to contend, we will NEED perimeter defense. I mean look at how Boston still struggled against the likes of Curry, Klay, and even Poole. Granted, we're talking about amazing guys on GS, but can you imagine us putting all our chips on the table and then getting dissected by every guard in the league and there's nothing we can do about it?

If we are going for someone, it has to be someone who is a versatile player. One that plays on both sides of the court. No more one-dimensional players unless they are surrounded by defense stalwarts. And right now, Donovan Mitchell would be coming here to fail as he would just add to our existing problems on that end of the court.


D Mitch has a 6'10 winspan and came into the league as a strong defender. It was his role which was so offense heavy I think which is why you didnt see him play D as he is capable of. Some guys can play D but need to be focused on it more while others simply can't play D at all. Kemba and Fournier are the latter. Mitchell is the former. Thibs will get him playing D in his system.
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Re: Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux 

Post#991 » by DaGawd » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:11 pm

Polk377 wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Donovan Mitchell is not the answer. We have foundational players now so when it comes to landing a big fish we should set our sights higher

These mythical players will never come to light

Then you keep building organically while keeping the assets available. We need someone out of this young core to develop into a star.

But we ain’t building organically really.. these dudes trade out of drafts like no ones buisness
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Post#992 » by Polk377 » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:15 pm

DaGawd wrote:
Polk377 wrote:
DaGawd wrote:These mythical players will never come to light

Then you keep building organically while keeping the assets available. We need someone out of this young core to develop into a star.

But we ain’t building organically really.. these dudes trade out of drafts like no ones buisness

Already have a roster full of young guys. There were no difference makers left at 11 after Davis went 10th.
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Re: Knicks Free Agency Frenzy Part Deux 

Post#993 » by DaGawd » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:15 pm

Polk377 wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
Polk377 wrote:Then you keep building organically while keeping the assets available. We need someone out of this young core to develop into a star.

But we ain’t building organically really.. these dudes trade out of drafts like no ones buisness

Already have a roster full of young guys. There were no difference makers left at 11 after Davis went 10th.

I love how this is said as if it’s a fact
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Post#994 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:16 pm

omerome wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Donovan Mitchell is not the answer. We have foundational players now so when it comes to landing a big fish we should set our sights higher


Anyone in mind? It is obviously the path they are taking but, I don't know who they are looking for. They may pounce on whatever big name is available and not build a solid roster. Brunson/Mitchell BC? Is that really a good plan?

Well, we never know who could be the next unhappy player that wants off their team. There is some good talent out there, but we do just have to be patient.

I would have preferred the Knicks to continue to acquire more assets with their cap space, but since they did not, the goal now should focus on building a winning culture - at the very least. Then we can strike when the iron is hot. I mean, what if the likes of Davion Mitchell in two years are really tired of losing in SAC or Kuminga wants a bigger opportunity from GS? That could be our opportunity to use our assets to get one of them.

Wishful thinking, sure. But it's better than dumping everything just to fail anyways.


Now that I have come to terms with the direction the team is going, I'm ok not blowing the wad just to make a move. The team is banking on trading to build a winner. That's the path they are taking. Make sure you choose wisely then. They need to become respectable in order to make this work. Winning helps speed that up.

There needs to be internal development here too. One or two of these kids at a minimum need to blossom into something good. Randle needs to shape up or ship out. Brunson should help with that somewhat. Thibs needs to make this work as well.

I don't care for this approach. I was on team tank the last few years. Now I'm on team please don't fuq this up! We have a considerable asset base if they don't squander it away. I can kinda see the logic to what they are doing too. I'm not as mad as I was last off season so, let's see what a team with a real PG looks like.
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Post#995 » by Polk377 » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:18 pm

DaGawd wrote:
Polk377 wrote:
DaGawd wrote:But we ain’t building organically really.. these dudes trade out of drafts like no ones buisness

Already have a roster full of young guys. There were no difference makers left at 11 after Davis went 10th.

I love how this is said as if it’s a fact

If the Knicks thought there was, they would have drafted someone. Their draft talent evaluation has been pretty good the last 2 drafts.
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Post#996 » by DaGawd » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:22 pm

Polk377 wrote:
DaGawd wrote:
Polk377 wrote:Already have a roster full of young guys. There were no difference makers left at 11 after Davis went 10th.

I love how this is said as if it’s a fact

If the Knicks thought there was, they would have drafted someone. Their draft talent evaluation has been pretty good the last 2 drafts.

More power to ya if you have that much faith in this FO.. they haven’t proven themselves in drafting to me in all honesty.. so far all I know is we’ve drafted some ok role players
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Post#997 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:24 pm

DaGawd wrote:
Polk377 wrote:
DaGawd wrote:I love how this is said as if it’s a fact

If the Knicks thought there was, they would have drafted someone. Their draft talent evaluation has been pretty good the last 2 drafts.

More power to ya if you have that much faith in this FO.. they haven’t proven themselves in drafting to me in all honesty.. so far all I know is we’ve drafted some ok role players


damn, homie. who did they pass on for quickley and grimes that gives you this stance?
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Post#998 » by Jeff Van Gully » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:25 pm

maybe we help the warriors and nets move KD. turn randle or fournier into formerly trash wiggins?
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Post#999 » by DowNY » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:27 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:maybe we help the warriors and nets move KD. turn randle or fournier into formerly trash wiggins?

Warriors laugh at trading Wiggins for either of those guys, unfortunately
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Post#1000 » by newyorker4ever » Sun Jul 3, 2022 8:29 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Donovan Mitchell is not the answer. We have foundational players now so when it comes to landing a big fish we should set our sights higher


We should go after OG Anunoby. He's what we need, a wing that plays both sides of the floor.

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