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The simplest answer is neither signs their extension. It’s in neither there’s or the Knicks favors to sign an extensions
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Anyone have an appetite for ayton ?
On a side note I want a player with a mean streak
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BigShot Bojan wrote:Anyone have an appetite for ayton ?
Thibs would bench him midway through the season
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Fury wrote:BigShot Bojan wrote:Anyone have an appetite for ayton ?
Thibs would bench him midway through the first game of the season
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
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If iHart signs elsewhere we need to keep Mitch. But I'm all for trading Mitch if iHart can sign that 4/78 deal.
For OG, I do not want to see a contract north of 40m for him. I understand that he is a perfect fit for the Knicks but having an injury prone is not something I wish to go down the road. I could barely stomach Mitch's problem.s
I would like to bring in a guy like Oubre/Batum. They can start 20-30 games as insurance for injuries like OG. I think Derrick Jones Jr. will resign with the Mavs. I believe we have the non-tax MLE starting at 12.4m, Oubre would be a great candidate.
For OG, I do not want to see a contract north of 40m for him. I understand that he is a perfect fit for the Knicks but having an injury prone is not something I wish to go down the road. I could barely stomach Mitch's problem.s
I would like to bring in a guy like Oubre/Batum. They can start 20-30 games as insurance for injuries like OG. I think Derrick Jones Jr. will resign with the Mavs. I believe we have the non-tax MLE starting at 12.4m, Oubre would be a great candidate.
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Derrick Jones Jr. at full MLE with the promise of hiring his entire extended family would be great =)
Love sticking it to Cuban and co.
Love sticking it to Cuban and co.
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Jeffrey wrote:If iHart signs elsewhere we need to keep Mitch. But I'm all for trading Mitch if iHart can sign that 4/78 deal.
For OG, I do not want to see a contract north of 40m for him. I understand that he is a perfect fit for the Knicks but having an injury prone is not something I wish to go down the road. I could barely stomach Mitch's problem.s
I would like to bring in a guy like Oubre/Batum. They can start 20-30 games as insurance for injuries like OG. I think Derrick Jones Jr. will resign with the Mavs. I believe we have the non-tax MLE starting at 12.4m, Oubre would be a great candidate.
Patrick williams is someone i think could be a great reclamation project
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You ain't keep it "P" ight bet stand on that! Bae he ain't no hoopa.
Stay away from Playoff P!
Stay away from Playoff P!
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Knicks Roster 2024-2025 :
Brunson, Deuce?
Devo, Burke, Hart
O.G., Hart
Randall, O.G. Hart, Achiuwa?
iHart, Mitchell?, Precious Achiuwa? Sims

Brunson, Deuce?
Devo, Burke, Hart
O.G., Hart
Randall, O.G. Hart, Achiuwa?
iHart, Mitchell?, Precious Achiuwa? Sims
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Deciding to deal with my grief here with a more longform post of the future of the Knicks so bare with me here
I think the Knicks are in a really great spot heading into this offseason. It's at a point where you can feel good either mostly running it back or making a major change. In past offseasons, it always felt like the Knicks HAD TO make a move to improve which kills leverage and could create a sense of desperation... Because it seems like Brunson is at the point where if he's healthy he can guarantee you a top 6 seed you feel a little more comfortable running it back. You add good role players into the mix and your looking at a fringe contender. In this era of parity, that's where you want to be. Look at the T-Wolves and Mavericks. Put yourself in a position where you think you have a good sustainable core and let the chips fall where they may.
That being said the Knicks shouldn't just rest on their laurels either. They need to be aggressive in taking advantage of this Brunson window while it is open. Even if it is by making marginal moves to improve on the edges. We should always be looking to improve one way or another. Good thing is the Knicks have a solid baseline of role guys and seem to be able to develop them behind the scenes as well so this should, in theory, become a self sustaining project as time goes along as long as Brunson continues to play like a 1a.
When looking at what cost the Knicks this playoff run there were a few main factors in my eyes:
Health (which will play into a lot of the below other factors)
Lack of wing defense depth
POA defense
Lack of shot creation and playmaking outside of Brunson
To me, if you fix the health of this team, then a lot of the other factors don't manifest themselves nearly as much as they did. For example, if Randle is healthy then the need for shot making and creation probably isn't as prevalent as it seemed. However, that doesn't mean we can't use more. NBA teams can always use more of that. The goal at the end of the day is to put the ball in the basket more than the opposition
Randle also provides another big body who when locked in is able to stay in front of smaller guys pretty well and also muscle up with physical wings and bigs like Siakam for example...
The question is how fixable is the health issue given who the coach is and the personnel we need to stay healthy have a successful season? While Randle doesn't have the type of injury history that suggests he's going to have chronic issues going forward, this is now 2 years in a row where he's taken a heavy minute load and picked up a random injury at an awful time. Can you rely on a guy whose biggest strength is his physical frame and playstyle going into his 30's? Same with Brunson... while he's avoided the major season enders (broken hand in a elimination game aside). It's another guy who plays very physical for a coach who is more aggressive with his minutes allocation. Not to mention OG who was injury prone before he got with Thibs... While building a team full of physical grinders is fun and fits the identity of fanbase and franchise we saw the downsides of it in real time the past month. It's something that at least needs to be taken into account when building out the roster. We need reliable guys 1-15. Can't waste roster spots on guys like Sims, Diakite and Jeffries if the coach won't play or trust them when guys inevitably go down. Get vets or young guys who at least provide some upside in those roster spots.
As far as actual targets go, the NBA world is the Knicks oyster this summer IMO. Again the luxuries of having an identity (even with the flaws it provides), star player, supported coach, plentiful draft assets and good stable of role players on good contracts allows you to be more flexible in who you target this summer. The one issue i foresee is that what the Knicks need most is one of the hardest positions to fill IMO. Reliable wing depth. You can get it cheaply but, again the wing is one of those positions you usually get what you pay for. Look at the Cavs for example... They just haven't prioritized the wing position around their stars and it has now burned them 2 postseasons in a row IMO. A lot of people make a big deal about their 2 big/2 small guard alignment, the issue to me is that they simply can't trust any of their wings enough to not feel like they HAVE TO play with that lineup alignment. This is my fear for the Knicks going forward, especially, if OG is going to never be able to be fully relied upon to be healthy.
The gold standard solution would be to get Mikal Bridges IMO. He would bring the best blend of premier talent/acquisition cost/fit that the Knicks could realistically acquire without gutting their entire core of their roster. I originally waffled on the idea of adding Bridges because I think he has real warts in his game and his defense has fallen off but I think the positives outweigh the negatives. The best part about Mikal to me is that he stays healthy and he has playoff experience. He's the ultimate OG insurance while also bringing standout qualities of his own. If Bridges, is unavailable to us specifically, then this answer becomes a little more trickier as there aren't very many other seemingly available options that would make a meaningful difference.
One idea that I would be in support of would be going all in on Caruso. While Caruso is more of a guard in stature he is one of the few "unicorn" guard defenders that is basically able to cosplay as a wing defensively. We've seen him give guys like KD and our own Randle fits while giving up a ton of size on both. And while he's not the most aggressive offensive player, he's not a complete zero on that end like a lot of other defense first guards. He's basically an idealized version of Deuce IMO even if I think Deuce brings a little more juice on offense, he's not nearly the defender yet that Caruso is...
Marcus Smart would be another similar type of guard defender who could be a workaround option for wing depth. He's a little more offensively-inclined than Caruso which brings it's plusses and minuses but his defense IMO, at least, has dropped off some from the peak of his powers on that end. He also has real injury concerns as well. But still he's graded out as a really positive defender and is another one of those guard unicorns on defense who guard up seemingly just fine. He's a culture fit as well.
Ultimately, what I think they'll do is chase a star with the Randle and Bogey contracts depending on their valuation of said star and if they strike out they'll probably make margin moves to add to this team and probably punt some of the current draft capital to future draft capital down the line.
What do y'all think?
I think the Knicks are in a really great spot heading into this offseason. It's at a point where you can feel good either mostly running it back or making a major change. In past offseasons, it always felt like the Knicks HAD TO make a move to improve which kills leverage and could create a sense of desperation... Because it seems like Brunson is at the point where if he's healthy he can guarantee you a top 6 seed you feel a little more comfortable running it back. You add good role players into the mix and your looking at a fringe contender. In this era of parity, that's where you want to be. Look at the T-Wolves and Mavericks. Put yourself in a position where you think you have a good sustainable core and let the chips fall where they may.
That being said the Knicks shouldn't just rest on their laurels either. They need to be aggressive in taking advantage of this Brunson window while it is open. Even if it is by making marginal moves to improve on the edges. We should always be looking to improve one way or another. Good thing is the Knicks have a solid baseline of role guys and seem to be able to develop them behind the scenes as well so this should, in theory, become a self sustaining project as time goes along as long as Brunson continues to play like a 1a.
When looking at what cost the Knicks this playoff run there were a few main factors in my eyes:
Health (which will play into a lot of the below other factors)
Lack of wing defense depth
POA defense
Lack of shot creation and playmaking outside of Brunson
To me, if you fix the health of this team, then a lot of the other factors don't manifest themselves nearly as much as they did. For example, if Randle is healthy then the need for shot making and creation probably isn't as prevalent as it seemed. However, that doesn't mean we can't use more. NBA teams can always use more of that. The goal at the end of the day is to put the ball in the basket more than the opposition
The question is how fixable is the health issue given who the coach is and the personnel we need to stay healthy have a successful season? While Randle doesn't have the type of injury history that suggests he's going to have chronic issues going forward, this is now 2 years in a row where he's taken a heavy minute load and picked up a random injury at an awful time. Can you rely on a guy whose biggest strength is his physical frame and playstyle going into his 30's? Same with Brunson... while he's avoided the major season enders (broken hand in a elimination game aside). It's another guy who plays very physical for a coach who is more aggressive with his minutes allocation. Not to mention OG who was injury prone before he got with Thibs... While building a team full of physical grinders is fun and fits the identity of fanbase and franchise we saw the downsides of it in real time the past month. It's something that at least needs to be taken into account when building out the roster. We need reliable guys 1-15. Can't waste roster spots on guys like Sims, Diakite and Jeffries if the coach won't play or trust them when guys inevitably go down. Get vets or young guys who at least provide some upside in those roster spots.
As far as actual targets go, the NBA world is the Knicks oyster this summer IMO. Again the luxuries of having an identity (even with the flaws it provides), star player, supported coach, plentiful draft assets and good stable of role players on good contracts allows you to be more flexible in who you target this summer. The one issue i foresee is that what the Knicks need most is one of the hardest positions to fill IMO. Reliable wing depth. You can get it cheaply but, again the wing is one of those positions you usually get what you pay for. Look at the Cavs for example... They just haven't prioritized the wing position around their stars and it has now burned them 2 postseasons in a row IMO. A lot of people make a big deal about their 2 big/2 small guard alignment, the issue to me is that they simply can't trust any of their wings enough to not feel like they HAVE TO play with that lineup alignment. This is my fear for the Knicks going forward, especially, if OG is going to never be able to be fully relied upon to be healthy.
The gold standard solution would be to get Mikal Bridges IMO. He would bring the best blend of premier talent/acquisition cost/fit that the Knicks could realistically acquire without gutting their entire core of their roster. I originally waffled on the idea of adding Bridges because I think he has real warts in his game and his defense has fallen off but I think the positives outweigh the negatives. The best part about Mikal to me is that he stays healthy and he has playoff experience. He's the ultimate OG insurance while also bringing standout qualities of his own. If Bridges, is unavailable to us specifically, then this answer becomes a little more trickier as there aren't very many other seemingly available options that would make a meaningful difference.
One idea that I would be in support of would be going all in on Caruso. While Caruso is more of a guard in stature he is one of the few "unicorn" guard defenders that is basically able to cosplay as a wing defensively. We've seen him give guys like KD and our own Randle fits while giving up a ton of size on both. And while he's not the most aggressive offensive player, he's not a complete zero on that end like a lot of other defense first guards. He's basically an idealized version of Deuce IMO even if I think Deuce brings a little more juice on offense, he's not nearly the defender yet that Caruso is...
Marcus Smart would be another similar type of guard defender who could be a workaround option for wing depth. He's a little more offensively-inclined than Caruso which brings it's plusses and minuses but his defense IMO, at least, has dropped off some from the peak of his powers on that end. He also has real injury concerns as well. But still he's graded out as a really positive defender and is another one of those guard unicorns on defense who guard up seemingly just fine. He's a culture fit as well.
Ultimately, what I think they'll do is chase a star with the Randle and Bogey contracts depending on their valuation of said star and if they strike out they'll probably make margin moves to add to this team and probably punt some of the current draft capital to future draft capital down the line.
What do y'all think?
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BigShot Bojan wrote:Anyone have an appetite for ayton ?
On a side note I want a player with a mean streak

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RHODEY wrote:
Will that dude sneeze already
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I don't think the wolves will go above the 2nd apron no matter what.
So...
Naz Reid/Kat to Knicks
Randle/Bojan/Jericho to Wolves
Precious and iHart not resigned
Naz/Mitch
Kat/Naz
OG/Hart
DD/Burks
Brunson/McBride
So...
Naz Reid/Kat to Knicks
Randle/Bojan/Jericho to Wolves
Precious and iHart not resigned
Naz/Mitch
Kat/Naz
OG/Hart
DD/Burks
Brunson/McBride
iHart
Jules
OG
DD
JB
Jules
OG
DD
JB
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We can pretty much remove KAT, Naz Reid off the list.
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Who's available for trade that makes us better for what we give up? If we move Randle for anyone who do we replace him with?
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I wonder what big name or names will ask for a trade… You know there will be at least 1 or 2. Just a matter of time…
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Jeffrey wrote:We can pretty much remove KAT, Naz Reid off the list.
when the wolves win the chip this year- it will prove one side of the two sided divide within
Wolves ownership that they have something worth spending money on...
We are not getting any of Antman's soldiers

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Context wrote:Jeffrey wrote:We can pretty much remove KAT, Naz Reid off the list.
when the wolves win the chip this year- it will prove one side of the two sided divide within
Wolves ownership that they have something worth spending money on...
We are not getting any of Antman's soldiers
I don’t think they would miss selling on KAT, chip or no chip.
I don’t want him w that salary here. Rather have Randle at his salary. (Never thought I’d say that.)
I want to see us healthy before doing any cleaning (unless it is for the other Villanova guy in Jersey.)
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ScienceOfLosing wrote:Context wrote:Jeffrey wrote:We can pretty much remove KAT, Naz Reid off the list.
when the wolves win the chip this year- it will prove one side of the two sided divide within
Wolves ownership that they have something worth spending money on...
We are not getting any of Antman's soldiers
I don’t think they would miss selling on KAT, chip or no chip.
I don’t want him w that salary here. Rather have Randle at his salary. (Never thought I’d say that.)
I want to see us healthy before doing any cleaning (unless it is for the other Villanova guy in Jersey.)
you realize Antman's influence?

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