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OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:45 pm
by knickabocker88
# The Warriors and Hawks have discussed a trade that would send Marvin Williams to Golden State, according to source. less than a minute ago via web
The Atlanta Hawks are shopping Marvin Williams and Mike Bibby in an attempt to free up cap space, according to league sources.
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Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:47 pm
by Esq-4
LOL, they can't afford the contrct they are offering Johnson I guess.
Just wait until they need to pay Hortford soon too.
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:47 pm
by magnumt
So JJ is coming back to an even WEAKER Team?
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:49 pm
by Pharmcat
send them curry
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:49 pm
by kane2021
magnumt wrote:So JJ is coming back to an even WEAKER Team?
I know. Something is fishy here.
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:50 pm
by knickabocker88
They Want to Resign Childress but he's RFA, so if Johnsons Signs no way they can match the offer
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:51 pm
by betta1
magnumt wrote:So JJ is coming back to an even WEAKER Team?
Haha...this would be funny to read for any Hawks fan that watches the team regularly. We all know that ridding the team of Bibby and Marvin is the quintessential addition-by-subtraction move.
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:52 pm
by nynixlive
Curry for Marvin and Bibby actually is probably a good bball trade for us and a could financial trade for them if they resign JJ.
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:52 pm
by Paeds
perfect example of why you want a owner like Dolan
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:53 pm
by defjux21
Sweet, this will probably mean Jamal's a starter again.
He's going to be JJ's Robin!
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:55 pm
by magnumt
kane2021 wrote:magnumt wrote:So JJ is coming back to an even WEAKER Team?
I know. Something is fishy here.
And on top of that, this the SECOND time the Hawks are having Ownership/change issues.
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:56 pm
by frogfood
magnumt wrote:So JJ is coming back to an even WEAKER Team?
Losing marv and Bibby is a plus imo, lol/
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:58 pm
by aveboogie7
magnumt wrote:So JJ is coming back to an even WEAKER Team?
No...JJ probably said, "I'll come back, but I'm done with guarding PG's. Move Bibby and I'll sign."
Williams is a sixth man....No harm there.
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:58 pm
by magnumt
frogfood wrote:magnumt wrote:So JJ is coming back to an even WEAKER Team?
Losing marv and Bibby is a plus imo, lol/
Have you see them try to score outside of JJ? And who the f' will play PG? Felton? Ridnoir?
What happens when JC and Horford are due Contracts soon?
What about my above mentioned Ownership issues that have arisen again?
What about the lack of depth at PG and SF after this Trade?
I'm sure JJ must be salivating at the lips to return to that.
--Mags
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:00 pm
by rammagen
So let me understand how the meeting may have went we want to offer you the max but we need to move other players to be able to do this with our salary resources this could take a few days or weeks. Or J can sign outright with any team that can afford him for the max hmmmmmmmmmm.
Something is stinking in the ATL
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:01 pm
by magnumt
aveboogie7 wrote:magnumt wrote:So JJ is coming back to an even WEAKER Team?
No...JJ probably said, "I'll come back, but I'm done with guarding PG's. Move Bibby and I'll sign."
Williams is a sixth man....No harm there.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. 
--Mags
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:04 pm
by kane2021
aveboogie7 wrote:magnumt wrote:So JJ is coming back to an even WEAKER Team?
No...JJ probably said, "I'll come back, but I'm done with guarding PG's. Move Bibby and I'll sign."
Williams is a sixth man....No harm there.
Or they are setting themselves up for a 3 team deal including a JJ s/t
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:05 pm
by betta1
magnumt wrote:frogfood wrote:magnumt wrote:So JJ is coming back to an even WEAKER Team?
Losing marv and Bibby is a plus imo, lol/
Have you see them try to score outside of JJ? And who the f' will play PG? Felton? Ridnoir?
What happens when JC and Horford are due Contracts soon?
What about my above mentioned Ownership issues that have arisen again?
What about the lack of depth at PG and SF after this Trade?
I'm sure JJ must be salivating at the lips to return to that.
--Mags
Have you see them try to score outside of JJ? And who the f' will play PG? Felton? Ridnoir?Probably Teague or someone we get in trade/FA. To conjure Bill Simmons, anyone is better than the chalk outline of Mike Bibby.
What happens when JC and Horford are due Contracts soon?Jamal Crawford will be traded no doubt before his contract is up. Jordan Crawford=our new Jamal Crawford. Horford will be extended some way some how. Ridding the team of Marv and Bibby actually helps towards that end, especially if we get expirings back.
What about my above mentioned Ownership issues that have arisen again?Too early and hard to say what impact, if any, the ownership speculation/issues might have.
What about the lack of depth at PG and SF after this Trade?Again, Marvin and Bibby are more than easily replaceable.
I'm sure JJ must be salivating at the lips to return to that.All I can say is he has 119 million reasons to salivate his lips to.
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:08 pm
by mjhp911
nynixlive wrote:Curry for Marvin and Bibby actually is probably a good bball trade for us and a could financial trade for them if they resign JJ.
I'd get in on that, sadly. That's how much I want Fatso gone. And Bibby is still a serviceable point, when healthy. Meanwhile, Starvin' Marvin has more of a conscience than Free Hanging Tech. But it might be only marginally better for us...
Re: OT: Hawks Trying to Trade Bibby and Marvin Williams
Posted: Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:08 pm
by moocow007
nynixlive wrote:Curry for Marvin and Bibby actually is probably a good bball trade for us and a could financial trade for them if they resign JJ.
Bibby looks like he's about 80 years old out there. And the Knicks have no real honest use for Marvin Williams at all. Consider that he has a 1st round picks salary and it becomes kinda pointless. This would be the reverse of the Hawks "addition by subtraction". For the Knicks it would be "subtraction (useful cap flexibility) by addition (of these 2 stiffs)".