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Amar'e Thread - Updates on Page 1

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:48 am
by swb
Seriously guys - is Amar'e better than David Lee?
They both don't play D, and Lee has better rebounding #s.

EDIT - UPDATES:

7/5/2010 -

A source reports that Amar'e Stoudemire is on the verge of joining the Knicks as a free agent.

The forward met with the Knicks on Monday and the two sides are on the brink of finalizing a contract worth nearly $100 million over five years. The contract language has already been hammered out.

Stoudemire will meet with owner James Dolan at 4 p.m.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... z0sqOh36N0


Done deal, as per SI breaking news...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/


Thread title and post updated.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:48 am
by captain subtext
No.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:49 am
by I am Ra
Yes.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:49 am
by EchelonNYK
I am Ra wrote:Yes.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:49 am
by vallen
Yes

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:50 am
by swb
I feel like Amar'e is the 2nd coming of Antonio Mcdyess. And it's funny because the knicks could have drafted Amar'e, but instead picked Nene and traded him for Mcdyess. Circle of Knicks life.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:50 am
by nyczlegacy
Yes teams double down on Amare. Have you ever seen teams gameplan for David Lee? LOL

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:50 am
by gstevens
Absolutely. Just as prolific as a scorer and somewhat more defensively sound (though not much). Is he worth max dollars? Probably not. However, if Lee is demanding max money - I'd rather have Amar'e.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:51 am
by EchelonNYK
Did you watch ANY Knicks vs. Suns games last year?! i don't have the numbers infront of me, but Amare abused David Lee a few times they went against each other.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:52 am
by Justdatdude
He is better than Lee and Bosh.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:52 am
by Ed_The_3rd
swb wrote:I feel like Amar'e is the 2nd coming of Antonio Mcdyess. And it's funny because the knicks could have drafted Amar'e, but instead picked Nene and traded him for Mcdyess. Circle of Knicks life.

The concerns are founded but the difference is that Amar'e has already played a full, healthy post-surgery season. McDyess had yet to show he could get back on the court when we brought him in.

It is, however, and interesting Knicks version of the ouroboros.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:52 am
by EchelonNYK
swb wrote:I feel like Amar'e is the 2nd coming of Antonio Mcdyess. And it's funny because the knicks could have drafted Amar'e, but instead picked Nene and traded him for Mcdyess. Circle of Knicks life.


Quit living in the past, dude. what happened to McDyess was unfortunate.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:52 am
by captain subtext
You guys are kidding yourself.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:53 am
by basketba11
Amare is probably the best finisher in the league.

Amare is better but Lee is still a great player that will get close to the max, if not the max, from some team.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:54 am
by gstevens
basketba11 wrote:Amare is probably the best finisher in the league.

Amare is better but Lee is still a great player that will get close to the max, if not the max, from some team.


:roll:

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:54 am
by captain subtext
echelonNYK wrote:
swb wrote:I feel like Amar'e is the 2nd coming of Antonio Mcdyess. And it's funny because the knicks could have drafted Amar'e, but instead picked Nene and traded him for Mcdyess. Circle of Knicks life.


Quit living in the pass, dude. what happened to McDyess was a unfortunate.


"Quit living in the past - let's make the same mistakes over and over again" should be embodied somewhere in the Knicks' crest.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:57 am
by EchelonNYK
captain subtext wrote:
echelonNYK wrote:
swb wrote:I feel like Amar'e is the 2nd coming of Antonio Mcdyess. And it's funny because the knicks could have drafted Amar'e, but instead picked Nene and traded him for Mcdyess. Circle of Knicks life.


Quit living in the pass, dude. what happened to McDyess was a unfortunate.


"Quit living in the past - let's make the same mistakes over and over again" should be embodied somewhere in the Knicks' crest.


thanks, human spell checker.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:58 am
by stuporman
Lee's rpg ave for his career 9.4 ...Amare's 8.9
Lee's bpg ave for his career .4 ..... Amare's 1.4

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:59 am
by cgmw
It's a question of value and mileage. If the world came to an end in 2011 and both players made the exact same money, then absolutely Amar'e Stoudemire.

But since the world will likely keep on going into at least David Lee's late 30's, and since one player is very likely going to make 25% less than the other -- it's comes down to a question of relativity. Five years from now, I'd probably take David Lee for $17 million over Amar'e at $24 million. Right now?

Recognizing the risk, I'll take Amar'e.

Re: Is Amar'e Stoudemire better than David Lee?

Posted: Sat Jul 3, 2010 12:59 am
by HarthorneWingo
nyczlegacy wrote:Yes teams double down on Amare. Have you ever seen teams gameplan for David Lee? LOL



D'Antoni doesn't run a traditional "inside-out" game where you dump it into the post, wait for the double-team, and pass out of that. It's all based on cutting and screens. Lee is much better at the pick and roll than Amare is. Plus, Lee is a much better passer; is healthier; is a better rebounder; and is much less apt to complain if he doesn't get his shots.