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do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:44 am
by jonny31623
Stat and Melo.
I personally think, without any knick fan bias on my part, that they are both top 10 players in this league.
Rose, Lebron, Wade, Kobe, Durant, Dwill, Dwight, Dirk, Stat and Melo are my top 10. Anyone disagree?
I think the only one who is arguable is cp3, but he really isnt having his best season, like he did in 08'.
Guys to me that have fallen out of top 10 are
duncan,
garnet,
roy
Nash
gasol (i never considered him top 10 but alot of people i know do)
Guys in the next 2-3 years that will enter top 10 if they continue on there current pace are, griffin, westbrook, rondo.
What you guys think?
Other then the heat, were the only team with 2 top 10 players on there team. Thats pretty crazy.
GO KNICKS!!!!!
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:20 am
by CP4MVP
yea they are probably top 10...but prob 9 and 10...those other 8 you mentioned are probably considered by the majority to be better than amare or melo
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:29 am
by NY2TheBay
I have actually had this conversation many times.lol
I think both stat and melo are top 10 players and right now both are ahead of dirk. I agree with your top 10, I would consider melo better than dwill as well.
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:45 am
by DeenNY31
NOOOO. Melo is probably somewhere around 8-10 and Amare is in the 12-15 range
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:49 am
by NY2TheBay
DeenNY31 wrote:NOOOO. Melo is probably somewhere around 8-10 and Amare is in the 12-15 range
Curious what your top 10 is then. Gasol aint better then amare thats for sure (playoffs last year proves that point). But honestly just curious.
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:49 am
by gavran
DeenNY31 wrote:NOOOO. Melo is probably somewhere around 8-10 and Amare is in the 12-15 range
So you think there are 14 players currently better than Amar'e?
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:07 am
by MR IB4TL
I think Melo is at the level of Wade/Durant...
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:20 am
by NewJerzeyKnick
DeenNY31 wrote:NOOOO. Melo is probably somewhere around 8-10 and Amare is in the 12-15 range
idk I think Amare is better than Melo to be honest
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:26 am
by RaZzMaTaZz
My top 20
Kobe
Lebron
Durant
Wade
Dwight
Rose
D-Will
Dirk
Melo
Amare
Paul
Gasol
Nash
Duncan
Pierce
Bosh
Roy(if healthy)
Rondo
Westbrook
Ellis
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:37 am
by NY2TheBay
RaZzMaTaZz wrote:My top 20
Kobe
Lebron
Durant
Wade
Dwight
Rose
D-Will
Dirk
Melo
Amare
Paul
Gasol
Nash
Duncan
Pierce
Bosh
Roy(if healthy)
Rondo
Westbrook
Ellis
I dont think Bosh is a top 20 player. Aldridge is better than Bosh Imo and I would take griffin, love and maybe even boozer when healthy over bosh right now. Sorry, I just personally think Bosh is weak.
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:38 am
by NY2TheBay
XerXeZ57 wrote:I think Melo is at the level of Wade/Durant...
Thinking about it, I tend to agree with you.
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:44 am
by RaZzMaTaZz
NY2TheBay wrote:RaZzMaTaZz wrote:My top 20
Kobe
Lebron
Durant
Wade
Dwight
Rose
D-Will
Dirk
Melo
Amare
Paul
Gasol
Nash
Duncan
Pierce
Bosh
Roy(if healthy)
Rondo
Westbrook
Ellis
I dont think Bosh is a top 20 player. Aldridge is better than Bosh Imo and I would take griffin, love and maybe even boozer when healthy over bosh right now. Sorry, I just personally think Bosh is weak.
Aldridge vs Bosh is debatable and Griffin will be better than both, I will give Griffin one more season and if he dominates again which i expect he will easily be top ten or at least top 20. Boozer is very overated imo I just don't like his game
but i have him in top 30 same with Kevin Love who will improve also.
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:54 am
by Kampuchea
DeenNY31 wrote:NOOOO. Melo is probably somewhere around 8-10 and Amare is in the 12-15 range
are you throwing out numbers or do you have logical players that should be seen as better than Amare that the other posters may not have?
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:33 am
by BLACKFEET 2010
Melo is the second or third best sf in the game. Only Lebron and Durant (I'd still rank Melo above him right now but most would call that being a homer) are even in the conversation. Amare is behind Dirk and Pau (on a good day).
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:10 am
by DeenNY31
gavran wrote:DeenNY31 wrote:NOOOO. Melo is probably somewhere around 8-10 and Amare is in the 12-15 range
So you think there are 14 players currently better than Amar'e?
ok 12-15 is a stretch probably. He's more around 11ish. I wouldn't say top 10 though
Kobe
Lebron
Wade
Howard
Deron
Paul
Durant
Melo
Dirk
Rose
Amare
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:19 am
by 4PointPlay
What a silly question, of course we have 2 top-10 players.
Shawne Williams and Jared Jeffries are top-5, easily.
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:01 am
by cshoops
My humble opinion.
1 Kobe (6 Rings)
2 Duncan (4 rings)
3 Pierce (1 ring)
4 Wade (1 ring)
5 Rose (MVP)
6 Lebron (MVP last year)
7 Durant (Took champs to 7 games)
8 Melo (Was killing people before trade and didn't miss a step when he came to Knicks)
9 Amare (Saved New York. He had the heart to be first.)
10. Deron Williams (His body of work wasn't defined in Utah and won't be in New Jersey until Jersey becomes a threat.)
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:55 pm
by alphad0gz
I don't understand why fans here are rating Amar'e so highly. The guy is as one dimensional as they come. He's just a scorer. For a PF/Center, he's as bad a rebounder and defender as it gets. People have flip-flopped on the guy. A year ago most fans here didn't even want him and now he's top ten? BS.
Melo is easily top ten. Put some decent players around him (ooops, we can't) and he might be a 25/8/5 guy.
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:01 pm
by vergogna
alphad0gz wrote: The guy is as one dimensional as they come. He's just a scorer.
Melo is easily top ten.
Re: do we have 2 of the top 10 players?
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 3:05 pm
by koogiking
alphad0gz wrote:I don't understand why fans here are rating Amar'e so highly. The guy is as one dimensional as they come. He's just a scorer. For a PF/Center, he's as bad a rebounder and defender as it gets. People have flip-flopped on the guy. A year ago most fans here didn't even want him and now he's top ten? BS.
Melo is easily top ten. Put some decent players around him (ooops, we can't) and he might be a 25/8/5 guy.
Why do people rate Dirk so high? He's by far a worse defender and rebounder than Amar'e