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[2011 Draft Thread Pt 3] - NY To TradeUp? (Update Top Pg 22)

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New "Down to the Wire" Combine Poll - Who Should the Knicks Take a 17?

Klay Thompson
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18%
Josh Selby
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18%
Kenneth Faried
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10%
Marshon Brooks
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28%
Someone Else (at 17)
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13%
Trade Up
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10%
Trade Down
3
3%
Trade Out
1
1%
 
Total votes: 104

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Post#1 » by magnumt » Fri May 20, 2011 4:09 pm

2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread I
2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread II

****KNICKS BOARD 2011 MOCK DRAFT - RESULTS****

Ok folks, we're going to do a Knicks Board Mock Draft. Everyone is invited. We'll be posting the results here. The actual discussion will happen in individual threads which you can access by clicking on the position/team.

1. Cleveland Cavaliers - Kyrie Irving
2. Minnesota Timberwolves - Derrick Williams
3. Utah Jazz - Brandon Knight
4. Cleveland Cavaliers - Enes Kanter
5. Toronto Raptors - Jonas Valanciunas
6. Washington Wizards - Jan Vesely
7. Sacramento Kings - Kemba Walker
8. Detroit Pistons - Bismack Biyombo
9. Charlotte Bobcats - Kawhi Leonard
10. Milwaukee Bucks - Alec Burks
11. Golden State Warriors - Chris Singleton
12. Utah Jazz - Klay Thompson
13. Phoenix Suns - Tristan Thompson
14. Houston Rockets - Marcus Morris
15. Indiana Pacers - Jimmer Fredette
16. Philadelphia 76ers - Markieff Morris
17. New York Knicks - Donatas Motiejunas


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KNICKS BOARD 2011 FAVORITE AT 17 (POLL)

Final Results of the Pre-Draft Combine Poll - Jimmer Fredette by a hair over Kenneth Faried. Now that the Draft Combine has come and gone, who will be the new board favorite for the Knicks at 17?

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Final Results of the Post Combine Poll - Before The Knicks Board Apparently was narrowed down to 5. Jimmer Fredette still held strong.

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Candidate #1: Klay Thompson - SG (6'7.25", 206lbs)

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Candidate #2: Josh Selby - PG (6'3", 195lbs)

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Candidate #3: Kenneth Faried - PF (6'7.5", 225lbs)

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Candidate #4: Marshon Brooks - SG (6'5.25", 195lbs)

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Fredette Intrigued By Knicks' Style Of Play
May 20, 2011 10:23 AM EDT
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Jimmer Fredette, the BYU 6-foot-1 sharpshooting point guard, told The Post at yesterday's pre-draft camp here he has agreed to work out for the Knicks in Westchester on June 2.

"It's a team that's definitely intriguing especially with their style of play," Fredette said yesterday. "Being able to get up and down the court, that's what we did at BYU. That's how I feel comfortable playing. Obviously, being from New York and liking the Knicks growing up, we'll see."

Can Fredette fall to 17 or would the Knicks have to trade up a few notches? Because of Fredette's alleged defensive shortcomings and questions on whether he is a floor general, Fredette could slip despite his blistering 28.9 scoring average.

"My expectations are trying to be able to get into the right fit for me," Fredette said. "I don't necessary care how high I get picked. I just want to get picked in the right situation. That's the longevity of your career.
If you get picked in the right spot, you have a great system you flourish in, the next contract is what you worry about. You just have to get in the right situation, show you can play well and go from there."


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Post#2 » by Fury » Fri May 20, 2011 4:10 pm

GET IT DONE DONNIE
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Post#3 » by BowlRips » Fri May 20, 2011 4:13 pm

if the knicks get jimmer can I request a username change...

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Post#4 » by magnumt » Fri May 20, 2011 4:18 pm

Fury wrote:GET IT DONE DONNIE


I wouldn't be surprised if a Team like Philly or the Warriors try to screw us like they have in the past. :nonono:

Thank goodness NJ isn't picking ahead of us again (but King has said that he wants to Trade Up :( ). Just like I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally wanted Westbrook, Holiday, and Curry in those Draft Years. I reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally want Jimmy. :cry:


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Post#5 » by NYStateofMind » Fri May 20, 2011 4:24 pm

I really hope this is one of the only article that comes out linking Fredette to NY (fat chance). The last thing we need is to tip our hand again by flirting openly through media leaks like we've done so often in the past.
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Post#6 » by I_Love_NYK » Fri May 20, 2011 4:24 pm

He is going to be a poor man's Stephen Curry, we know about his defensive woes. But with STAT and Melo he will get a lot of open looks and he is probably the purests shooter in the draft. He can probably be the JJ Barea role and just be an immediate scorer off the bench.
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Post#7 » by Dantares » Fri May 20, 2011 4:25 pm

Here's the problem with Jimmer. If he kills it in workouts and displays better than expected quickness, athletcism and the ability to run a team than some team above us will draft him to be their PG of the future. but if he cannot play point then why would you want to waste a decent pick on a back-up 2-guard?
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Post#8 » by GONYK » Fri May 20, 2011 4:26 pm

BowlRips wrote:if the knicks get jimmer can I request a username change...

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Post#9 » by Pharmcat » Fri May 20, 2011 4:26 pm

seems like NY still hasnt learned their lesson of (not) telling the world who you are interested in

btw jimmer goes to UT with their 2nd pick, imo
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Post#10 » by Pharmcat » Fri May 20, 2011 4:27 pm

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Sounds like the worst charity ever


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Post#11 » by Fury » Fri May 20, 2011 4:27 pm

Dantares wrote:Here's the problem with Jimmer. If he kills it in workouts and displays better than expected quickness, athletcism and the ability to run a team than some team above us will draft him to be their PG of the future. but if he cannot play point then why would you want to waste a decent pick on a back-up 2-guard?


If that's the case we better trade up for him. Get your guy. Stop sitting back. Make some moves. I'm sick of every draft being us making our pick and doing squat. Buying the Laker pick is the only "move" Donnie has done during the draft.
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Post#12 » by next2spike » Fri May 20, 2011 4:27 pm

I feel we need a starter in this draft, or a 7-8th man who can contribute this year. I like Jimmer, being he's the "sexy" pick, but he doesn't fill a need. We need a PG of the future who is a pass-first PG, a two-way SG, and C's who are defense first, but can score around the hoop.
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Post#13 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Fri May 20, 2011 4:31 pm

I highly doubt we get a starter in this draft where we're picking.
Eventual starter maybe....but not a fresh out the box one.
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Post#14 » by Dantares » Fri May 20, 2011 4:34 pm

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Dantares wrote:Here's the problem with Jimmer. If he kills it in workouts and displays better than expected quickness, athletcism and the ability to run a team than some team above us will draft him to be their PG of the future. but if he cannot play point then why would you want to waste a decent pick on a back-up 2-guard?


If that's the case we better trade up for him. Get your guy. Stop sitting back. Make some moves. I'm sick of every draft being us making our pick and doing squat. Buying the Laker pick is the only "move" Donnie has done during the draft.



yeah I thought about that too. but then what if some other team(above us or below us) likes Jimmer and tries to move up to get him? they could easily outbid us because we gave up every single asset we had in that Carmelo deal.

Maybe we could buy a late first round pick for 3 million and then send both 1st picks plus an additional 3 million dollars to move up.
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Post#15 » by Import » Fri May 20, 2011 4:36 pm

magnumt wrote: :D :D :D :D :D :D :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray:



Woohooo!! I'm on the Jimmer Fredette bandwagon. I hope we somehow get him at # 17 or to trade up. :D
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Post#16 » by Import » Fri May 20, 2011 4:38 pm

Pharmcat wrote:btw jimmer goes to UT with their 2nd pick, imo


Yeah, Utah at #12 or Indiana at # 15 will probably draft him.

We'll probably have to trade up to the # 10-11 pick to get Fredette.
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Post#17 » by magnumt » Fri May 20, 2011 4:39 pm

I_Love_NYK wrote:He is going to be a poor man's Stephen Curry, we know about his defensive woes. But with STAT and Melo he will get a lot of open looks and he is probably the purests shooter in the draft. He can probably be the JJ Barea role and just be an immediate scorer off the bench.


Dantares wrote:Here's the problem with Jimmer. If he kills it in workouts and displays better than expected quickness, athletcism and the ability to run a team than some team above us will draft him to be their PG of the future. but if he cannot play point then why would you want to waste a decent pick on a back-up 2-guard?


:clown: :clown: :clown: :nonono: :nonono: :nonono:

People were saying the same sh*t leading up to the Drafts in past Years and in their Rookie Seasons for Westbrook and Curry.

Both of those guys proved you haters wrong.

Just cause a guy isn't dropping nearly 10 APG in College and is scoring nearly 30 PPG, doesn't mean he can't be a good PG. :roll:

Like I said above, one of the reasons I want Jimmy so bad is I seem him as a PERFECT fit to develop in this System. He sooooooooooooo reminds me of Nash-lite.

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Post#18 » by kane2021 » Fri May 20, 2011 4:40 pm

I dont know much about him because I dont watch a lot of collage basketball. But it seems the last few drafts we have had our eyes on someone that ended up getting picked a pick or two before we got our shot. So either dont waste time scouting kids we cant get, or do what you got to do to get him. You know what I mean?
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Post#20 » by Jstarks3 » Fri May 20, 2011 4:45 pm

i feel like the fact that utah got bumped up to 2 really helps us. they would have DEF taken him at 12. no question.
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