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Where would the Knicks be with D Lee 

Post#1 » by BRIGGS » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:23 am

and no Amare? D lee was the much better long term investment and atleast as good if not better basketball player.
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Post#2 » by gethigh » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:24 am

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Post#3 » by Retired_Doc » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:32 am

BRIGGS wrote:and no Amare? D lee was the much better long term investment and atleast as good if not better basketball player.


I like David Lee. A LOT! And of course he's not in physical decline as is Stat. But Lee's defense was quite suspect. However I do remember many posters here suggesting that if we had a REAL center as we do now, Lee's defense would have been compensated for. Would I do a straight up trade of Amare for Lee? If it were possible/allowed YEP I sure would!
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Re: Where would the Knicks be with D Lee 

Post#4 » by knickfan212 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:55 am

I watch a lot of Warriors game because I live in the Bay. David Lee is probably the only PF in the NBA that plays less defense that Amare. He just lets bigs walk in, and watches. No thank you. I would rather have a limpy banged up Amare for next couple years than David Lee. People also forget Lee signed a 6 year deal.
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Re: Where would the Knicks be with D Lee 

Post#5 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:35 am

gethigh wrote:In the lottery


carmelo anthony and tyson chandler do not join us without amar'e stoudemire leading the charge or star players rising to the new york challenge.
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Re: Where would the Knicks be with D Lee 

Post#6 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:39 am

knickfan212 wrote:I watch a lot of Warriors game because I live in the Bay. David Lee is probably the only PF in the NBA that plays less defense that Amare. He just lets bigs walk in, and watches. No thank you. I would rather have a limpy banged up Amare for next couple years than David Lee. People also forget Lee signed a 6 year deal.


word. and amar'e has been a flawed defender throughout his career, but it is apparent that he is willing to improve his intensity and effort on that end of the ball. lee will never give a schidt. it is truly appalling to watch him do little more than pad his own stats. no pun intended.

stoudemire is an emotional leader and apparently a fantastic teammate. david lee is merely along for the ride no matter where he goes. i'd rather have kris humphries than david lee. and this is coming from a david lee fan who really appreciated having him during our dark years. i was stoked to see him finally do enough stat padding to get an all-star team berth and open the door for a big contract, but it was definitely time to cut bait when we did.
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Re: Where would the Knicks be with D Lee 

Post#7 » by cgmw » Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:49 am

Without the trade assets or cap space to acquire Tyson Chandler (via Billups via Felton) or Carmelo Anthony or Amar'e Stoudemire.
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Post#8 » by rdogg1026 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:05 am

The Knicks would be in NY. Madison Square Garden to be exact.
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Post#9 » by Knicks_For_Life » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:08 am

Lets be real, if we still had Lee, we wouldn't be anywhere close to where we are now. Do you actually think Melo would have come to the Knicks to play with Lee, or Tyson to play with Lee. And no way in hell could Lee ever dominate the game of basketball like Amar'e did last year. Lee will never amount to STAT career wise. Lee is just not as good as everyone thinks he is.

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Post#10 » by NoMoreThrees » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:18 am

BRIGGS wrote:and no Amare? D lee was the much better long term investment and atleast as good if not better basketball player.


what like just swap amare with lee and all rest is same?
if that coulda happen we would be better cause lee can play with anyone and still get his numbers even when it a ballhog like melo or zach or whoevet
that is lee special talent
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Post#11 » by Knicks_For_Life » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:38 am

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BRIGGS wrote:and no Amare? D lee was the much better long term investment and atleast as good if not better basketball player.


what like just swap amare with lee and all rest is same?
if that coulda happen we would be better cause lee can play with anyone and still get his numbers even when it a ballhog like melo or zach or whoevet
that is lee special talent

And what is your special talent? Sucking him off.

I am pretty sure during the first half of last year, nobody was complaining about STAT, and how he was an upgrade from Lee. He has one bad season and all of you want him gone. Without him signing with us, we would not have made the playoffs last year, nor this year because no STAT=No Melo, Tyson.
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Post#12 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:42 am

BRIGGS wrote:and no Amare? D lee was the much better long term investment and atleast as good if not better basketball player.

None of this is true.

The long term investment is getting a team to contend.

Amar'e does that, David Lee will never do that.
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Post#13 » by NoMoreThrees » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:46 am

Knicks_For_Life wrote:
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BRIGGS wrote:and no Amare? D lee was the much better long term investment and atleast as good if not better basketball player.


what like just swap amare with lee and all rest is same?
if that coulda happen we would be better cause lee can play with anyone and still get his numbers even when it a ballhog like melo or zach or whoevet
that is lee special talent

And what is your special talent? Sucking him off.

I am pretty sure during the first half of last year, nobody was complaining about STAT, and how he was an upgrade from Lee. He has one bad season and all of you want him gone. Without him signing with us, we would not have made the playoffs last year, nor this year because no STAT=No Melo, Tyson.
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wtf u talkin bout. i defend stat all the mfing time. it melo i dont like.
but i callin it how it is. amare melo dont work. lee works with any player. so yea u get better if u got lee in there if u wanna ride with melo which is what most this place want.
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Post#14 » by Knicks_For_Life » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:46 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:and no Amare? D lee was the much better long term investment and atleast as good if not better basketball player.

None of this is true.

The long term investment is getting a team to contend.

Amar'e does that, David Lee will never do that.

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Post#15 » by NoMoreThrees » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:50 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:and no Amare? D lee was the much better long term investment and atleast as good if not better basketball player.

None of this is true.

The long term investment is getting a team to contend.

Amar'e does that, David Lee will never do that.

lee makes lot less money. could have extra mle player on the team if it lee not amare
lee also healthy amare not
lee can play with anyone and get stats without hurting other player
now u kno me i dont like melo ball and want amare and team game
but that not the ? here. if we ride melo then lee is better fit over amare
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Post#16 » by Rasho Brezec » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:51 am

I'll take the guy with half the salary and twice the production.
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Post#17 » by JustaKnickFan » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:51 am

NoMoreThrees wrote:wtf u talkin bout. i defend stat all the mfing time. it melo i dont like.
but i callin it how it is. amare melo dont work. lee works with any player. so yea u get better if u got lee in there if u wanna ride with melo which is what most this place want.

Amar'e and Melo don't work? Maybe it's just our previous coach's crappy system. Lee isn't even a superstar IMO. It's easy to look good on a bad team, and like everyone else said, he plays worse d than Amar'e.
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Post#18 » by Retired_Doc » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:54 am

Rasho Brezec wrote:I'll take the guy with half the salary and twice the production.


Not to mention that that guy with half the salary and twice the production also happens to be more than twice as healthy, and surely not in physical decline! :o
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Post#19 » by Knicks_For_Life » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:55 am

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NoMoreThrees wrote:wtf u talkin bout. i defend stat all the mfing time. it melo i dont like.
but i callin it how it is. amare melo dont work. lee works with any player. so yea u get better if u got lee in there if u wanna ride with melo which is what most this place want.

Amar'e and Melo don't work? Maybe it's just our previous coach's crappy system. Lee isn't even a superstar IMO. It's easy to look good on a bad team, and like everyone else said, he plays worse d than Amar'e.

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Post#20 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:00 pm

Knicks_For_Life wrote:
JustaKnickFan wrote:
NoMoreThrees wrote:wtf u talkin bout. i defend stat all the mfing time. it melo i dont like.
but i callin it how it is. amare melo dont work. lee works with any player. so yea u get better if u got lee in there if u wanna ride with melo which is what most this place want.

Amar'e and Melo don't work? Maybe it's just our previous coach's crappy system. Lee isn't even a superstar IMO. It's easy to look good on a bad team, and like everyone else said, he plays worse d than Amar'e.

Exactly

Melo and Amar'e actually played well together with Woodson at the helm before Amar'e got hurt. Without Amar'e we aren't getting anyone else.

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