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StumptheSlob wrote:Wouldn't mind the Knicks picking up Patric Young, Jeff Withey, Phil Pressey or Kabongo. Young would be that young, athletic big that could back-up Amar'e However, I feel like he'll move up the boards during/after the combine. Withey could be a nice replacement for Chandler down the line. He's a great defensively, pretty athletic and explosive around the rim. He could learn a lot from Chandler in his first few years. Of course, Pressey and Kabongo speak for themselves. Kabongo would likely be out of our range, but who knows.

I dunno about Young moving up to much. Everyone knows how strong/athletic he is, the reason why he is so low is because his skills aren't all that appealing. He can't shoot, his post game is basic ( mostly uses a hook shot over either shoulder), until this year despite his physical tools he was never much of a shot blocker, and he isn't a great defender. (BUT if he was available at our pick I'd be fine taking him, just based on that if he improves defensively he could guard 4s and some 5s)

SkyMason21 wrote:

StumptheSlob wrote:Wouldn't mind the Knicks picking up Patric Young, Jeff Withey, Phil Pressey or Kabongo. Young would be that young, athletic big that could back-up Amar'e However, I feel like he'll move up the boards during/after the combine. Withey could be a nice replacement for Chandler down the line. He's a great defensively, pretty athletic and explosive around the rim. He could learn a lot from Chandler in his first few years. Of course, Pressey and Kabongo speak for themselves. Kabongo would likely be out of our range, but who knows.

I dunno about Young moving up to much. Everyone knows how strong/athletic he is, the reason why he is so low is because his skills aren't all that appealing. He can't shoot, his post game is basic ( mostly uses a hook shot over either shoulder), until this year despite his physical tools he was never much of a shot blocker, and he isn't a great defender. (BUT if he was available at our pick I'd be fine taking him, just based on that if he improves defensively he could guard 4s and some 5s)

I forgot about Young, u're right I would be fine if we took him. Solid role player for a late 1st round pick, think his NBA comparison is like Jason Maxiell. I got a feeling the Heat will draft him, they love athleticism and small big men.

We need to draft a shooter or a dribble guard.

Canaan/Crabbe for me.

UnderdogKnicks wrote:

SkyMason21 wrote:

StumptheSlob wrote:Wouldn't mind the Knicks picking up Patric Young, Jeff Withey, Phil Pressey or Kabongo. Young would be that young, athletic big that could back-up Amar'e However, I feel like he'll move up the boards during/after the combine. Withey could be a nice replacement for Chandler down the line. He's a great defensively, pretty athletic and explosive around the rim. He could learn a lot from Chandler in his first few years. Of course, Pressey and Kabongo speak for themselves. Kabongo would likely be out of our range, but who knows.

I dunno about Young moving up to much. Everyone knows how strong/athletic he is, the reason why he is so low is because his skills aren't all that appealing. He can't shoot, his post game is basic ( mostly uses a hook shot over either shoulder), until this year despite his physical tools he was never much of a shot blocker, and he isn't a great defender. (BUT if he was available at our pick I'd be fine taking him, just based on that if he improves defensively he could guard 4s and some 5s)

I forgot about Young, u're right I would be fine if we took him. Solid role player for a late 1st round pick, think his NBA comparison is like Jason Maxiell. I got a feeling the Heat will draft him, they love athleticism and small big men.

They would but I believe the Suns have the Heat pick (via Lakers from the sessions trade with the Cavs)

Tbh I want no parts of Phil Pressey… I loooove his game, but not for my team. He’s simply too small and he can’t finish at the rim. He’s shooting something like 20% in those shots. Defensively he would struggle against Nba point guards, and if he had to switch? Yikes..

Obviously his ability to create for others is appealing but I think those other things cancel that out…

What do you guys think about TJ Warren (Nc State)? Kid makes it look easy on offense..

SMDH... one loss to a scrub team for their first loss and the Lobos drop from 17 to out of the top 25...

Anyways VS 8 Cincinatti tonight on ESPN could be a good game.

Alex Kirk looks a lot quicker and in better shape. Pretty big win for them getting #8 on the road..

Conference play is starting.. Can’t wait, finally some good matchups consistently

This whole St John's shooting three's thing, it's nice. Should've made Harrison get contacts years ago, god only imagines how good he can be now...

Anyone seen Kelly Olynyk from Gonzaga a lot? I keep hearing about him and he just had a great game, 33 pts 10 rebs.

SkyMason21 wrote:Anyone seen Kelly Olynyk from Gonzaga a lot? I keep hearing about him and he just had a great game, 33 pts 10 rebs.

Talented player who struggled with injuries and finding a role. Has really bulked up and looks like a legit center prospect. Skilled, not overly athletic but makes up for it with length, agility and effort. Tough guy aswell. Think of a little less rugged but more skilled Joakim Noah...

Flaming Mo wrote:

SkyMason21 wrote:Anyone seen Kelly Olynyk from Gonzaga a lot? I keep hearing about him and he just had a great game, 33 pts 10 rebs.

Talented player who struggled with injuries and finding a role. Has really bulked up and looks like a legit center prospect. Skilled, not overly athletic but makes up for it with length, agility and effort. Tough guy aswell. Think of a little less rugged but more skilled Joakim Noah...

Probably used that redshirt year to his benefit, came back a completely different player

yaboynyp wrote:

Flaming Mo wrote:

SkyMason21 wrote:Anyone seen Kelly Olynyk from Gonzaga a lot? I keep hearing about him and he just had a great game, 33 pts 10 rebs.

Talented player who struggled with injuries and finding a role. Has really bulked up and looks like a legit center prospect. Skilled, not overly athletic but makes up for it with length, agility and effort. Tough guy aswell. Think of a little less rugged but more skilled Joakim Noah...

Probably used that redshirt year to his benefit, came back a completely different player

Definitely. He has shown the development that never really happened with Elias Harris for the Zags...

Haha meant to say that as an affirmative not a question.. He absolutely used that redshirt year to his benefit, got as much out of it as anyone in recent memory in my eyes..

yaboynyp wrote:Haha meant to say that as an affirmative not a question.. He absolutely used that redshirt year to his benefit, got as much out of it as anyone in recent memory in my eyes..

That's how I took it...

Man, Michigan State really played terrible but stole one in Iowa. Miami beat UNC, Kenny Kadji is a monster that not many people know about... lottery pick potential easily...

Flaming Mo wrote:

yaboynyp wrote:Haha meant to say that as an affirmative not a question.. He absolutely used that redshirt year to his benefit, got as much out of it as anyone in recent memory in my eyes..

That's how I took it...

Man, Michigan State really played terrible but stole one in Iowa. Miami beat UNC, Kenny Kadji is a monster that not many people know about... lottery pick potential easily...

He has good size, good defender, can score in a variety ways but here's where Kenny is lacking

a 6"11 dude who shoots 43% from the FG and takes 3 to 4 threepointshots a game. Kenny is the same age as me, 24 and he turns 25 this year. That means if he enters the NBA, by his 3rd season he'll be 28. Not sure if a lottery team wants to invest in that type of potential.

No chance he slides into the lottery. He's not even in anyone's mock draft, and I'm talking about late second round pick. But it's possible he can land in the first round. We'll see how things developed.


Trey Burke has been impressive, but I'm in love with Ben McClamore...I would no doubt trade Shumpert if the opportunity was there to get Ben. His game is almost flawless.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzufDLiYTNc[/youtube]

I agree, McLemore is special.

Flaming Mo wrote:

yaboynyp wrote:Haha meant to say that as an affirmative not a question.. He absolutely used that redshirt year to his benefit, got as much out of it as anyone in recent memory in my eyes..

That's how I took it...

Man, Michigan State really played terrible but stole one in Iowa. Miami beat UNC, Kenny Kadji is a monster that not many people know about... lottery pick potential easily...

That Miami team has some talent. Reggie Johnson is a load down there, and Kadji is silly

yaboynyp wrote:That Miami team has some talent. Reggie Johnson is a load down there, and Kadji is silly

It's way early but they have the look of a team that can make noise in March. Larranega is a very good coach and they seem to buy into him. Very experienced team (lots of seniors), immense size and good shooters. Plus they got a sparkplug in Larkin at PG...