Re: Post Game Analysis Thread
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:52 am
j4remis analysis are too long...
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Sprewell4Three wrote:j4remis analysis are too long...
Sprewell4Three wrote:j4remis analysis are too long...
[GR] wrote:Why can't this just go into the regular post game threads?
[GR] wrote:Why can't this just go into the regular post game threads?
j4remi wrote:Sprewell4Three wrote:j4remis analysis are too long...
I try to organize it so you can read about the players you care about and skip things that aren't important to you. The game notes are really the only piece that's necessary to get an idea of how the team played as a whole.
knicksosmoove wrote:j4remi wrote:Sprewell4Three wrote:j4remis analysis are too long...
I try to organize it so you can read about the players you care about and skip things that aren't important to you. The game notes are really the only piece that's necessary to get an idea of how the team played as a whole.
I don't want to seem critical here--I think the quality of your observations is very good and worth the read to those who have the time for it--I just don't know if the way you're doing it is ever going to spark discussion which seemed to be the point of the keys to the game.
He Who Shall Not Be Named was very good at making a quick, concise observation that could lead to a discussion. he also didn't always view things with rose colored glasses, which I think made his notes more interesting.
something like:
Tyson--I think his greatest impact on this game was his defense on Roy Hibbert--took him out of the game and that opened things up for us to get a lead. sometimes I think Tyson leaves his feet too much which leads to him getting a lot of fouls.
will probably generate more discussion than:
Tyson--Tyson had a good game. He did a really good job of defending Roy Hibbert all night. 3-7 shooting for 7 shots isn't too great, but he had some nice finishes from Felton so I think his offense was okay. 9 rebounds is pretty good, and 5 offensive rebounds is excellent. he had one block shot which is pretty good. he did a good job in the first half finishing alley oops but then didn't do too much in the second half. he also had some steals which was nice to see.
I just think that the first one would give people something to focus on ... I understand wanting to recap what happened in as much detail as possible, but most of the people who read this stuff are die-hards anyway: we all know how Tyson, Carmelo, Felton, etc. play on most nights ... just a quick observation or two will usually suffice ...
j4remi wrote:knicksosmoove wrote:j4remi wrote:I try to organize it so you can read about the players you care about and skip things that aren't important to you. The game notes are really the only piece that's necessary to get an idea of how the team played as a whole.
I don't want to seem critical here--I think the quality of your observations is very good and worth the read to those who have the time for it--I just don't know if the way you're doing it is ever going to spark discussion which seemed to be the point of the keys to the game.
He Who Shall Not Be Named was very good at making a quick, concise observation that could lead to a discussion. he also didn't always view things with rose colored glasses, which I think made his notes more interesting.
something like:
Tyson--I think his greatest impact on this game was his defense on Roy Hibbert--took him out of the game and that opened things up for us to get a lead. sometimes I think Tyson leaves his feet too much which leads to him getting a lot of fouls.
will probably generate more discussion than:
Tyson--Tyson had a good game. He did a really good job of defending Roy Hibbert all night. 3-7 shooting for 7 shots isn't too great, but he had some nice finishes from Felton so I think his offense was okay. 9 rebounds is pretty good, and 5 offensive rebounds is excellent. he had one block shot which is pretty good. he did a good job in the first half finishing alley oops but then didn't do too much in the second half. he also had some steals which was nice to see.
I just think that the first one would give people something to focus on ... I understand wanting to recap what happened in as much detail as possible, but most of the people who read this stuff are die-hards anyway: we all know how Tyson, Carmelo, Felton, etc. play on most nights ... just a quick observation or two will usually suffice ...
I have no problem with constructive criticism man, feel free to give your thoughts... I'm more experimenting with structure on this...I'm not looking to spark a discussion with generalities. The concise, simplified breakdown is usually the first sentence or two before I go into deeper analysis. I'm trying to kill the box score based discussions by providing statistics in context and recreating images from the game. So while it might not spark big time discussion...anyone just working from the box score and having questions can pick out any individual player and hit up my post for an explanation that typically touches on the overall performance of that guy. I'm not really gunning for a keys to the thread feel...My goals are different.
DRoberstonNYY wrote:i hope we get somebody half as good as TKF to be honest.. the post game threads were my favorite part of this forum.. just a ton of quality discussion.. hell, i wish TKF would come back, but that's another story for another day
and scrub of the night.. how could this be forgotten?
knicksosmoove wrote:yeah, I definitely think you should give your breakdowns at some point in the thread, but if that's how you want to do it then maybe someone else should be the guy who starts the thread. not trying to be harsh here, but the fact of the matter is that your breakdowns don't spark discussion. again, not saying your analysis is bad. I'm saying it's not effective at getting responses from people.
it's a hard job. I know I wouldn't be capable of doing it, and to be honest I'm having a hard time thinking of a regular poster who would be able to even come close to matching the quality of the old post-game threads ...
j4remi wrote:knicksosmoove wrote:yeah, I definitely think you should give your breakdowns at some point in the thread, but if that's how you want to do it then maybe someone else should be the guy who starts the thread. not trying to be harsh here, but the fact of the matter is that your breakdowns don't spark discussion. again, not saying your analysis is bad. I'm saying it's not effective at getting responses from people.
it's a hard job. I know I wouldn't be capable of doing it, and to be honest I'm having a hard time thinking of a regular poster who would be able to even come close to matching the quality of the old post-game threads ...
And that is why I've literally never volunteered to start the thread. I throw my analysis into the recent OP's because there's nothing consistent going up, but I'm waiting for Paco to come back and handle it. His post game threads were pretty damned good.
knicksosmoove wrote:DRoberstonNYY wrote:i hope we get somebody half as good as TKF to be honest.. the post game threads were my favorite part of this forum.. just a ton of quality discussion.. hell, i wish TKF would come back, but that's another story for another day
and scrub of the night.. how could this be forgotten?
I know I shouldn't keep harping on it but this board did itself a huge disservice by driving out a lot of posters who had interesting things to say
TKF's analysis was as good or better than those of a lot of people who get paid to do this stuff, and the morons on this board drove him away. how is it good for the quality of the board to drive guys like TKF and dk7th away while letting lowlifes with no point of view who hang around making potshots at people all the time stick around for infinity? it's stupidity and/or madness, to me ....
NYKat wrote:knicksosmoove wrote:DRoberstonNYY wrote:i hope we get somebody half as good as TKF to be honest.. the post game threads were my favorite part of this forum.. just a ton of quality discussion.. hell, i wish TKF would come back, but that's another story for another day
and scrub of the night.. how could this be forgotten?
I know I shouldn't keep harping on it but this board did itself a huge disservice by driving out a lot of posters who had interesting things to say
TKF's analysis was as good or better than those of a lot of people who get paid to do this stuff, and the morons on this board drove him away. how is it good for the quality of the board to drive guys like TKF and dk7th away while letting lowlifes with no point of view who hang around making potshots at people all the time stick around for infinity? it's stupidity and/or madness, to me ....
I don't think he's banned from here, is he? Since you choose to harp on him so much, you might consider following him to whatever board he's currently posting on.