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Capn'O wrote:I know I've said this elsewhere but I'd like to see Jordan Hill back here for Novak.

Knicks need some depth, rebounding, and defense at the bigs and I'd rather see us push for a younger guy instead of a vet at this point. I think Copeland covers for Novak just fine and the guard rotation is much stronger with Felton and Shumpert coming back.

Hill is out for the season with a hip injury

GONYK wrote:

Capn'O wrote:I know I've said this elsewhere but I'd like to see Jordan Hill back here for Novak.

Knicks need some depth, rebounding, and defense at the bigs and I'd rather see us push for a younger guy instead of a vet at this point. I think Copeland covers for Novak just fine and the guard rotation is much stronger with Felton and Shumpert coming back.

Hill is out for the season with a hip injury

Full season??? **** that then. Nothing happened. Nothing to see above.

Maybe somebody "like" Hill though I can't think of another guy off the top of my head for that price.

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What can we offer?

Chris Smith?

Capn'O wrote:Full season??? **** that then. Nothing happened. Nothing to see above.

Maybe somebody "like" Hill though I can't think of another guy off the top of my head for that price.

I could see Denver doing Mozgov for Novak.

I don't love that deal, but we can't go into the playoffs without a reliable third big. Those line-ups with Amare at center yesterday just killed us.

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:

Capn'O wrote:Full season??? **** that then. Nothing happened. Nothing to see above.

Maybe somebody "like" Hill though I can't think of another guy off the top of my head for that price.

I could see Denver doing Mozgov for Novak.

I don't love that deal, but we can't go into the playoffs without a reliable third big. Those line-ups with Amare at center yesterday just killed us.

Novak package to D'Antoni for Artest would make more sense...then if they really want to play Anthony out of position at PF they don't have to go with a defense/reboundless Copeland.

moocow007 wrote:Novak package to D'Antoni for Artest would make more sense.

My three favorite Novak returns are Artest, Wilson Chandler, and Mbah a Moute. Unfortunately, I don't see the other teams pulling the trigger on any of those.

Mozzy I could see happening.

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:

Capn'O wrote:Full season??? **** that then. Nothing happened. Nothing to see above.

Maybe somebody "like" Hill though I can't think of another guy off the top of my head for that price.

I could see Denver doing Mozgov for Novak.

I don't love that deal, but we can't go into the playoffs without a reliable third big. Those line-ups with Amare at center yesterday just killed us.

Denver is in no business of paying luxury tax which Novak would put them over next season. That is besides the fact that they have four combo forwards on the roster already.

Just live with Novak already. He has a three year contract. He ain't going anywhere for at least two more seasons.

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:

moocow007 wrote:Novak package to D'Antoni for Artest would make more sense.

My three favorite Novak returns are Artest, Wilson Chandler, and Mbah a Moute. Unfortunately, I don't see the other teams pulling the trigger on any of those.

Artest might actually be possible. Novak would be raining 3's like nobodies business with D'Antoni as the Lakers starting PF and backup C.

seren wrote:
Denver is in no business of paying luxury tax which Novak would put them over next season. That is besides the fact that they have four combo forwards on the roster already.

Thought Mozzy was on a multi-year too.

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:

seren wrote:
Denver is in no business of paying luxury tax which Novak would put them over next season. That is besides the fact that they have four combo forwards on the roster already.

Thought Mozzy was on a multi-year too.

Well, no. He is expiring. We can go after him in the summer if we want.

Or trade KT, Brewer, and White for Mozgov, Stone, Quincy Miller.

Works under the checker.

How about this one: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bb3wa53

Detroit gets Novak
Dallas gets Daye, Sheed, KT, and Brewer (all expirings, as opposed to Marion who has two years left)
NY gets Shawn Marion

Maybe the Suns buy out Jermaine Oneal and the Knicks can pick him up. JO is the cleanest, personality wise, of the bunch so if the reason they haven't moved on either Birdman or Martin was because of character concerns then JO would avoid that. He's looked pretty good so far this season as a backup guy.

I think Knicks are poised for a trade in the next month. Amare isnt going anyway and dont see a reason to move him anyway. Knicks have too many SF's.

Knicks will make their splash for a PG. The east is loaded with better PG's. Knicks want an upgrade.

A backup PG upgrade you mean? Because Felton isn't going anywhere unless it's some blockbuster trade for a big time PG -- and that ain't happening. Knicks have played well enough with Felton earlier in the yr for them to assume he is good enough for this team- which he very well may be.

Knicks need a backup C for Tyson -- Stat isn't that... and the others are too old.

Need a better backup PG too. I don't anticipate Felton will be out this long again, but i'm not sure Pablo is good enough to be the back up ball controller in the playoffs.

Mozzy would be a good example of the type of backup this team could use for Tyson...

Building Stat's value up and sending him off for a few pieces would obviously be idea-- but I doubt that happens... So only real pieces I can think to move would be Brewer / Novak

ORANGEandBLUE wrote:How about this one: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bb3wa53

Detroit gets Novak
Dallas gets Daye, Sheed, KT, and Brewer (all expirings, as opposed to Marion who has two years left)
NY gets Shawn Marion

I'd love to have Marion in this team.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ar6sc6z

We send out JR and KT, get back Telfair, PJ Tucker, and Shannon Brown. JR goes to Portland.

Tough to lose JR but our perimeter defense would be elite.

Another one:

Novak
Brewer
KT

for

Telfair
Tucker
Jermaine

and

... Michael Beasley?

Im thinking blockbuster. This year is the best year to make a blockbuster. The summer after this one the Knicks will have their hands full resigning JR and others. This summer Knicks want to make a splash in free agency. Right now we have a lot of assets and not a lot of available playing time. We either let them rot on bench or sell high. Players like Brewer and Copeland are very tradable. We have lots of assets that are attractive. Knick would be best served making a move now.

On the aquistion want list:

John Wall, Derrick Favors or Andrei Kirilenko

falcindor wrote:Im thinking blockbuster. This year is the best year to make a blockbuster. The summer after this one the Knicks will have their hands full resigning JR and others. This summer Knicks want to make a splash in free agency. Right now we have a lot of assets and not a lot of available playing time. We either let them rot on bench or sell high. Players like Brewer and Copeland are very tradable. We have lots of assets that are attractive. Knick would be best served making a move now.

On the aquistion want list:

John Wall, Derrick Favors or Andrei Kirilenko