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We have been through hell and back since we traded Ewing & Dudley away... when you look back at the names and faces that have come and gone it really is mind boggling. Thought some of you old dogs might enjoy looking back at what we have endured, and analyzing the trends in our trading activities.

The long road, starting with Ewing's departure...

9/20/2000: Knicks acquire Luc Longley, Glen Rice, Travis Knight, Vernon Maxwell, Vladimir Stepania, Lazaro Borrell, a 2001 first-rounder (Jamaal Tinsley), two 2001 second-rounders (Michael Wright and Eric Chenowith, and a 2002 first-rounder (Kareem Rush) in exchange for Patrick Ewing, Chris Dudley, and a 2001 first-rounder (Jason Collins).

1/30/2001: Knicks acquire Othella Harrington in exchange for Erick Strickland, a 2001 first-rounder (Jamaal Tinsley), and a 2001 second-rounder (Antonis Fotsis)

2/22/2001: Knicks acquire Mark Jackson and Muggsy Bogues in exchange for Chris Childs and a 2002 first-rounder (Kareem Rush).

8/10/2001: Knicks acquire Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley in exchange for Glen Rice, Muggsy Bogues, and "future considerations".

6/26/2002: Knicks acquire Antonio McDyess, the rights to Frank Williams, and a 2003 second-rounder (Maciej Lampe) in exchange for Marcus Camby, Mark Jackson, and the rights to Nene Hilario.

7/23/2003: Knicks acquire Keith Van Horn in exchange for Latrell Sprewell (part of a four-team deal)

12/30/2003: Knicks acquire Moochie Norris and John Amaechi in exchange for Clarence Weatherspoon.

1/5/2004: Knicks acquire Stephon Marbury, Penny Hardaway, and Cezary Trybanski in exchange for Antonio McDyess, Howard Eisley, Maciej Lampe, Charlie Ward, the rights to Milos Vujanic, a 2004 first-rounder (Kirk Snyder) and a heavily protected first-rounder that eventually became Gordon Hayward in 2010. Plus $3 million.

2/15/2004: Knicks acquire Tim Thomas and Nazr Mohammed in exchange for Keith Van Horn, Michael Doleac, and a 2005 second-rounder (Ronny Turiaf!).

8/5/2004: Knicks acquire Jamal Crawford and Jerome Williams in exchange for Othella Harrington, Frank Williams, Dikembe Mutombo, and Cezary Trybanski. (Crawford was signed-and-traded, Seven years, $56 million)

2/24/2005: Knicks acquire Malik Rose, a 2005 first-rounder (David Lee), a 2006 first-rounder (Mardy Collins), and cash in exchange for Nazr Mohammed and Jamison Brewer.

2/24/2005: Knicks acquire Maurice Taylor in exchange for Moochie Norris, Vin Baker, and a 2006 second-rounder (Steve Novak!).

6/28/2005: Knicks acquire Quentin Richardson and the rights to Nate Robinson in exchange for Kurt Thomas and the rights to Dijon Thompson.

10/4/2005: Knicks acquire Eddy Curry, Antonio Davis, and the right to swap 2007 first-rounders with the Bulls (ended up being Wilson Chandler) in exchange for Tim Thomas, Mike Sweetney, Jermaine Jackson, pick swaps in 2006 and 2007 that ended up being LaMarcus Aldridge and Joakim Noah, a 2007 second-rounder (Kyrylo Fesenko), and a 2009 second-rounder (Jon Brockman).

2/3/2006: Knicks acquire Jalen Rose and a 2006 first-rounder (Renaldo Balkman) for Antonio Davis. (Rose was due like $30 million between '06 and '07.

2/22/2006: Knicks acquire Steve Francis in exchange for Trevor Ariza and Penny Hardaway

6/28/2007: Knicks acquire Zach Randolph, Fred Jones, Dan Dickau, and the rights to Demetris Nichols in exchange for Steve Francis, Channing Frye, and a 2008 second-rounder (Omer Asik).

7/28/2007: Knicks acquire Taurean Green, Bobby Jones, and a 2010 second-rounder (Andy Rautins) in exchange for Renaldo Balkman.

11/21/2008: Knicks acquire Al Harrington in exchange for Jamal Crawford.

11/21/2008: Knicks acquire Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley in exchange for Zach Randolph and Mardy Collins.

2/19/2009: Knicks acquire Larry Hughes in exchange for Tim Thomas, Jerome James, and Anthony Roberson.

2/19/2009: Knicks acquire Chris Wilcox in exchange for Malik Rose and cash considerations.

6/25/2009: Knicks acquire Darko Milicic in exchange for Quentin Richardson and cash.

2/17/2010: Knicks acquire Brian Cardinal in exchange for Darko Milicic and cash.

2/18/2010: Knicks acquire Eddie House, J.R. Giddens, Bill Walker, and a top-55 protected 2014 second-rounder in exchange for Nate Robinson and Marcus Landry.

2/18/2010: Knicks acquire Tracy McGrady and Sergio Rodriguez in exchange for Jordan Hill, Jared Jeffries, and a heavily conditional pick (Royce White).

7/9/2010: Knicks acquire Ronny Turiaf, Kelenna Azubuike, and Anthony Randolph in exchange for David Lee.

2/22/2011: Knicks acquire Carmelo Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Renaldo Balkman, Anthony Carter, Shelden Williams, and Corey Brewer in exchange for Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari, Raymond Felton, Timofey Mozgov, Anthony Randolph, Eddy Curry's expiring pact, their 2014 first-round pick and $3 million.

7/11/2012: Knicks acquire Marcus Camby in exchange for Toney Douglas, Jerome Jordan, Josh Harrellson, a 2014 second-rounder, and a 2015 second-rounder.

7/15/2012: Knicks acquire Raymond Felton and Kurt Thomas in exchange for Jared Jeffries, Dan Gadzuric, the rights to Kostas Papanikolaou, the rights to Giorgios Printezis, a 2016 second-rounder, and cash considerations.

2/21/2013: Knicks acquire a 2014 second-round pick, & Cash considerations in exchange for Ronnie Brewer.

7/3/2013: The Knicks acquire Andrea Bargnani for Marcus Camby, Steve Novak, Quentin Richardson (via a sign-and-trade), a first-round pick in 2016 and second-round selections in 2014 and 2017.

(need to fact check recent trades, please feel free to provide them and I will edit them or add them in.)

All that said, what a long strange trip it's been.


Note: Thanks to Posting and Toasting, & the bleacher report, and Wikipedia for the facts/article/inspiration.

guess which one guys hate the most

Thorn wrote:6/26/2002: Knicks acquire Antonio McDyess, the rights to Frank Williams, and a 2003 second-rounder (**** Maciej Lampe) in exchange for Marcus Camby, Mark Jackson, and the rights to Nene, back when he was still Maybner Hilario. THIS WAS NOT THE BEST TRADE EVER.

7/28/2007: Knicks acquire Taurean Green, Bobby Jones, and a 2010 second-rounder (Andy Rautins) in exchange for Renaldo Balkman.

I was both deeply hurt and enraged by these two deals.

7/9/2010: Knicks acquire Ronny Turiaf, Kelenna Azubuike, and Anthony Randolph in exchange for David Lee. - See more at: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1284789#sthash.gqEsmthQ.dpuf

It was reported that Golden State offered Monta for Lee, but old man Donnie declined and countered with this crap^

Its even worse if you throw in some of our signings like resigning Houston for $100mil, Jeffries, Jerome James, etc.

Of course there is one common theme to all of those transactions.

Mods should sticky this post. Epic study in franchise futility.

I had no idea that the Asik was also drafted with a pick that originally belonged to the Knicks.

We didn't deserve the Ewing curse since it was Patrick himself who demanded a trade.

BeagleBoss wrote:We didn't deserve the Ewing curse since it was Patrick himself who demanded a trade.

We still didn't have to trade him or at least trade him for the first garbage package on the table. But Dolan insisted.

duetta wrote:Mods should sticky this post. Epic study in franchise futility.

I had no idea that the Asik was also drafted with a pick that originally belonged to the Knicks.

It really is a study in futility, so man people have come through the door... so many picks have been thrown to other teams who managed to make the most of them, so many wasted opportunities.

As stated this doesn't even consider signings that were bad, just trades... and I am having a hard time finding good ones and this goes back to 2000!

How is this even possible?

Say what you want about Isiah. But Donnie was a **** GM too. Such horrible trades and draft decisions.

The Carmelo trade was an excellent one.

2/18/2010: Knicks acquire Tracy McGrady and Sergio Rodriguez in exchange for Jordan Hill, Jared Jeffries, and a heavily conditional pick that eventually became Royce White this year.

this one isn't so bad anymore since the pick turned into Royce White haha. Still a bad trade though.

8/10/2001: Knicks acquire Shandon Anderson and Howard Eisley in exchange for Glen Rice, Muggsy Bogues, and "future considerations" which have evidently yet to be fulfilled...

God I hated Shandon and his contract. This was a terrible move.

All we had to do was sign PE Jr to a Chris Smith deal for it to be lifted ... Instead we signed Chris Smith.

Acquiring Z-Bo was actually a good move in retrospect...granted Asik was what came of the pick but I doubt our guys would have picked him bc that's too good a move.

Damn. Even the Camby trade was Godawful.

"Hey, Houston, we'll give you two second round picks if you let us sit Camby at the end of our bench for the entire season. Then we'll waive him and you can have him back for free next season"

Jesus christ. It just never ends.

j4remi wrote:Acquiring Z-Bo was actually a good move in retrospect...granted Asik was what came of the pick but I doubt our guys would have picked him bc that's too good a move.

Yeah, in a vacuum, the Zbo trade was actually decent. But the idea of pairing Zbo with Eddy Curry and Marbury when we should have been blowing that team up was what was extremely bad. The idea's that Isiah had of how to build a team was just godawful.

Deeeez Knicks wrote:

j4remi wrote:Acquiring Z-Bo was actually a good move in retrospect...granted Asik was what came of the pick but I doubt our guys would have picked him bc that's too good a move.

Yeah, in a vacuum, the Zbo trade was actually good. But the idea of pairing Zbo with Eddy Curry and Marbury when we should have been blowing that team up was what was extremely bad.

Yeah, but just in terms of assets out and in...it's one of the top deals on the list.

I think you have the right time frame but the wrong incident. It wasn't the Ewing trade but the total control of the team going to Dolan just a year earlier that was the turning point for the franchise.

Best trade IMO that was just before Dolan took over was when they were trying to get under the cap for the '96 free agent class.

They shipped out Charles Smith for a shorter contract in J.R. Reid AND got a freakin 1st rounder back.

Wow, this is good stuff. Well, some of it not so good, but it is impressive to have it all together. Thanks for posting it.