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Post#41 » by MaxZaslofskyJr » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:06 am

DE FENSE wrote:I decorated the Christmas tree with my fiance


Take that woman down immediately!! It has to be really uncomfortable with all of those pine needles sticking her!

(couldn't resist)
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Post#42 » by chokeartist » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:21 am

Carefully plottin' JD's murder;) Nah, the F'er isn't worth it. Plus, if there is enuff NY hate raining down on this POS maybe he will OD or drink himself to death;). In the meantime, I hope everywhere he goes in this town someone curses him. "SELL MY KNIX U STUPID MOFO, U F'IN JINX RUINING BBALL FOR ALL NYERS. DIE DUMB POS DIE!" Ya know somethin' like that, LOL!!
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Post#43 » by DE FENSE » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:10 pm

MaxZaslofskyJr wrote:
DE FENSE wrote:I decorated the Christmas tree with my fiance


Take that woman down immediately!! It has to be really uncomfortable with all of those pine needles sticking her!

(couldn't resist)


Clyde beat you to it but :lol:
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Post#44 » by KNIXFAN_83 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:12 pm

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Post#45 » by MaseInYourFace » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:13 pm

Yeah definitely. I have a lot on plate as is. With the team playing like this there is definitely better use of my time than watching the same kind of poor play over and over...
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Post#46 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:01 pm

Woke up this morning and felt like an era has passed.

In the storybook, it will be remembered as a time when those with ideals clung to hope for a better world in the face of impossible odds as they agitated for change. The possibility that the rulers of their kingdom would become wise and benevolent faded with each callous and short-sighted action.

Eventually the dreamers realized not only were they pissing into the wind, but that much of the peasantry would remain content fighting for the scraps the rulers tossed on to the ground from their castle balcony above. So the dreamers moved on, deeper into the forests away from the buzzing distractions of a civilization enslaved by a sound and fury signifying nothing.

And life was good.
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Post#47 » by seren » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:43 pm

I cut my cable in the summer. My wife forced me to do it. I was not happy at the beginning and was planning to get it back once the season went on, but now I feel very good about it. We get to spend more family time. I don't feel down watching the games. I have seen the tnt overtime games online and luckily those games have been competitive so far. Thank you Dolan for saving me a bunch of money and improving my relationship.
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Post#48 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:52 pm

seren wrote:I cut my cable in the summer. My wife forced me to do it. I was not happy at the beginning and was planning to get it back once the season went on, but now I feel very good about it. We get to spend more family time. I don't feel down watching the games. I have seen the tnt overtime games online and luckily those games have been competitive so far. Thank you Dolan for saving me a bunch of money and improving my relationship.


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Post#49 » by NothingButLuck » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:43 pm

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Post#50 » by earthmansurfer » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:55 pm

We could do a crowdfunding campaign to take out a full page ad (e.g. Sports section NY Times) and ask Dolan to step down because of how bad he sucks. Mention the Lin debacle with something like "Why won't you listen to fans?", mention about how he has employees followed around, the Marbury debacle, JR Smith Chris Smith thing, break down letting Lin go and compare it to what the Geriatric bunch cost, Steve Mills past here, The Melo Trade and what we lost, etc. I'm sure the city of NY can raise enough money to take out a full page weekly ad.

Regarding the draft, if we don't make the playoffs - I really think when Tyson comes back we have a chance of turning things around - then I hope that Orlando or Denver draft a STAR. An absolute star. And we have to bring that up in the full page ad.

Dolan will eventually step down.
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Post#51 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:02 pm

earthmansurfer wrote:We could do a crowdfunding campaign to take out a full page ad (e.g. Sports section NY Times) and ask Dolan to step down because of how bad he sucks. Mention the Lin debacle with something like "Why won't you listen to fans?", mention about how he has employees followed around, the Marbury debacle, JR Smith Chris Smith thing, break down letting Lin go and compare it to what the Geriatric bunch cost, Steve Mills past here, The Melo Trade and what we lost, etc. I'm sure the city of NY can raise enough money to take out a full page weekly ad.

Regarding the draft, if we don't make the playoffs - I really think when Tyson comes back we have a chance of turning things around - then I hope that Orlando or Denver draft a STAR. An absolute star. And we have to bring that up in the full page ad.

Dolan will eventually step down.


I'm past all that and don't even care what happens now. Dolan, No Dolan, que sera sera.

I've walked 15 miles deeper into the wilderness since breakfast and I can barely see the kingdom in the distance now. The festering whine of SAS is nowhere to be heard in the forest. Its so calming here.
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Post#52 » by seren » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:06 pm

If one must continue watching basketball, why not root for another team? I can understand nobody wants to "betray" but what is wrong with rooting for a team from the west? Get the league pass and watch San Antonio Spurs. You would enjoy some great basketball with no drama.
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Post#53 » by earthmansurfer » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:53 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:We could do a crowdfunding campaign to take out a full page ad (e.g. Sports section NY Times) and ask Dolan to step down because of how bad he sucks. Mention the Lin debacle with something like "Why won't you listen to fans?", mention about how he has employees followed around, the Marbury debacle, JR Smith Chris Smith thing, break down letting Lin go and compare it to what the Geriatric bunch cost, Steve Mills past here, The Melo Trade and what we lost, etc. I'm sure the city of NY can raise enough money to take out a full page weekly ad.

Regarding the draft, if we don't make the playoffs - I really think when Tyson comes back we have a chance of turning things around - then I hope that Orlando or Denver draft a STAR. An absolute star. And we have to bring that up in the full page ad.

Dolan will eventually step down.


I'm past all that and don't even care what happens now. Dolan, No Dolan, que sera sera.

I've walked 15 miles deeper into the wilderness since breakfast and I can barely see the kingdom in the distance now. The festering whine of SAS is nowhere to be heard in the forest. Its so calming here.


Point taken Clyde.

Then, let me share something with you in a different direction. Are you familiar with the Cryptocurrencies? (e.g. Bitcoin) I have to say, I have not been this excited about a disruptive technology since the internet. This isn't about making money (though that is a part of it for most), this is about reigning in the corruption of the banks, governments, etc. out there and decentralizing ownership of money, trust-less transactions, transfer of ownership, etc. It is a Black Swann that most can't wrap their head around (and I've worked with brilliant people who couldn't wrap their head around the internet in the early days. And, I see the same stuff now with Bitcoin and the other Cryptocurrencies.

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Post#54 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:38 am

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Clyde_Style wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:We could do a crowdfunding campaign to take out a full page ad (e.g. Sports section NY Times) and ask Dolan to step down because of how bad he sucks. Mention the Lin debacle with something like "Why won't you listen to fans?", mention about how he has employees followed around, the Marbury debacle, JR Smith Chris Smith thing, break down letting Lin go and compare it to what the Geriatric bunch cost, Steve Mills past here, The Melo Trade and what we lost, etc. I'm sure the city of NY can raise enough money to take out a full page weekly ad.

Regarding the draft, if we don't make the playoffs - I really think when Tyson comes back we have a chance of turning things around - then I hope that Orlando or Denver draft a STAR. An absolute star. And we have to bring that up in the full page ad.

Dolan will eventually step down.


I'm past all that and don't even care what happens now. Dolan, No Dolan, que sera sera.

I've walked 15 miles deeper into the wilderness since breakfast and I can barely see the kingdom in the distance now. The festering whine of SAS is nowhere to be heard in the forest. Its so calming here.


Point taken Clyde.

Then, let me share something with you in a different direction. Are you familiar with the Cryptocurrencies? (e.g. Bitcoin) I have to say, I have not been this excited about a disruptive technology since the internet. This isn't about making money (though that is a part of it for most), this is about reigning in the corruption of the banks, governments, etc. out there and decentralizing ownership of money, trust-less transactions, transfer of ownership, etc. It is a Black Swann that most can't wrap their head around (and I've worked with brilliant people who couldn't wrap their head around the internet in the early days. And, I see the same stuff now with Bitcoin and the other Cryptocurrencies.

EMS


Disruption is relative. Early speculators on the Bitcoin made fortunes only if the converted their gains into conventional currencies as a measure of usable value.

The internet is in the process of being neutered enough to remain under some kind of control. Freedom is hard to define now in a technological state.

The Bitcoin is a threat, but parallel economies come and go. The expiration dates on the cans of creamed corn in the basements of doomsday preppers will also come and go, because I consider environmental collapse more likely than outright social chaos with Mel Gibson protecting the last gas tank.

The real issue is extinction. Will the planet agree to host us in the next century? It may not. A 140 year old Elon Musk may not care, because he'll just take his Soylent Green and go on a road trip, but the rest of the human race might.

Long story short, I wouldn't underestimate the power of the central banks just yet. They can still enforce their inflationary daydreams with the barrel of a gun. The crisis of governments everywhere will be due to food shortages and epidemics, something weapons have a hard time containing. By that point, currency considerations may seem small.

Besides, with chaos, the ability to guarantee Bitcoin tracking technology and databases may be easily disrupted and hard to access and use. The question of who controls the mint has always been settled by who can call in the troops and I'm not sure that will ever change.

We've got somewhere between 20 and 100 years in my estimation before things really break down. The central banks will not be the first thing to go.
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Post#55 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:39 am

I'll add another thought to my reply above.

The reason I don't get too excited about alternative economic systems boils down to two things.

First, alternate systems can benefit those who are able to structure their lives to benefit from alternative methods of securing their life's necessities. Bartering is a perfect example of exchanging goods and services directly, thus bypassing the need for any currency.

The issue is not whether some will be able to build alternative lifestyles, but what the masses do. The current creation of a growing illiterate underclass pretty much renders fantasies about social stability moot.

The chaos factor would arise from the swelling populations of underprivileged people who will have no safety net when the hammer comes down. The elite and wealthy don't care. Some of them are preparing for a more locked-down future where some of their luxuries are preserved while large-scale die-offs occur in the population.

Alternative, digital sytems of exchange will not bring stability, just the ability to hack the reality of what will still be a minority portion of the human race.

Second, much as I would like to see certain more socialist or utopian solutions come to pass, the future continues to point towards consolidation of power and centralized states. They may be rogue states, they may be overthrown, but they will still be state governments. Social services, infrastructure and regulatory policies do not function in a decentralized system for the most part.

And here's the rub. The fate of the human race entirely depends on large governments doing the right thing. We are not going to prevent the extinction of our species because some of us are angels and recycle our bottles. It will happen because the largest organizations on the planet will come to an agreement on actions to take to stabilize the environment, development green technologies and use clean fuels.

We will still need enlightened leaders to attain a favorable outcome for our race and this planet. Dreams of disrupting industries or infrastructure are worth having, but at the end of the day centralized decision making from places like DC and Beijing and Frankfurt are what's going to matter most.

The rulers are not about to dissolve their printing presses. It may be corrupt and artificial, but it is not about to disappear. What we may start to see now is a series of steps over the coming decade to produce greater stability to the banking systems and progressive limits place on the ability of banks to over-speculate. This points to recognition by governments they can't overplay their hand much longer without systemic collapse.

Thus, just the potential threat of collapse will push central banks to get harder on commercial banks. Now whether this starts to translate into a greater collective wisdom at the top in coming decades about environmental issues is another matter entirely and I won't predict they will come to their senses.
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Post#56 » by cgmw » Thu Dec 12, 2013 5:03 am

seren wrote:If one must continue watching basketball, why not root for another team? I can understand nobody wants to "betray" but what is wrong with rooting for a team from the west? Get the league pass and watch San Antonio Spurs. You would enjoy some great basketball with no drama.

Nah, still bitter about 99. Besides, you don't want to root for a team better than the Knicks. You want to root for one more dysfunctional.

I tried this with the Kings two years ago, and it was amazing. Later, I actually attended a Kings-Wizards game and sat right behind the Kings bench. The dysfunctional hijinx were more enteratining than anything the Dolan-Knicks have produced outside of Linsanity or winning the Atlantic.

But yes, having a West Coast LP team is essential to surviving the Dolan-Knick experience.
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Post#57 » by earthmansurfer » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:10 am

Clyde_Style - Without going too deep (and I can as I know the technology very well) - I'll just say it is not THE answer but it is AN answer. It is a step in the right direction. And when banks are apparently in danger of failing all around the world, these currencies may just be the straw that breaks the camels back, not alone their undoing. That will be our job and it will need to come from our hearts as well as our minds.

And we can't go through the banks as they just print money in which to defend themselves and attack the planet. We need to go around them, somehow.

I understand Torrent is not as valuable as money (yet) but the governments have been unable to shut it down - another protocol. I get the feeling one land may make Cryptos illegal but most will not and there is the proxy of interest. Notice how China accepts Bitcoin as a commodity and they also recently stated they will not accrue any more US Dollar Debt (forget the amount).

Will be interesting to watch the worlds largest social experiment of the people unfold. And the bigger point here is not the money (e.g. btc) it is the blokchain they reside on (BTC) - Very bad they call both the same thing, brings up confustion. That is the biggest network in the world and what can be built on it, and is being built on it, is down right EXTREMELY disruptive and not something to be made illegal. This is a Trojan horse.

The ability for us to see where these cryptos are going is really beyond our event horizon imo.
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Post#58 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:48 pm

earthmansurfer wrote:Clyde_Style - Without going too deep (and I can as I know the technology very well) - I'll just say it is not THE answer but it is AN answer. It is a step in the right direction. And when banks are apparently in danger of failing all around the world, these currencies may just be the straw that breaks the camels back, not alone their undoing. That will be our job and it will need to come from our hearts as well as our minds.

And we can't go through the banks as they just print money in which to defend themselves and attack the planet. We need to go around them, somehow.

I understand Torrent is not as valuable as money (yet) but the governments have been unable to shut it down - another protocol. I get the feeling one land may make Cryptos illegal but most will not and there is the proxy of interest. Notice how China accepts Bitcoin as a commodity and they also recently stated they will not accrue any more US Dollar Debt (forget the amount).

Will be interesting to watch the worlds largest social experiment of the people unfold. And the bigger point here is not the money (e.g. btc) it is the blokchain they reside on (BTC) - Very bad they call both the same thing, brings up confustion. That is the biggest network in the world and what can be built on it, and is being built on it, is down right EXTREMELY disruptive and not something to be made illegal. This is a Trojan horse.

The ability for us to see where these cryptos are going is really beyond our event horizon imo.


You know more about it than I do, but it seems likely it will be co-opted in any way possible. Hedge funds have been formed around Bitcoin speculation, Wall St. analysts are issuing target prices and every angle on how to profit from it is being dissected right now. The profiteers are staking their ground. We'll see what governments do next. If there is a compromise made to allow parallel currency streams flow through state regulated apparatuses, will be as disruptive? I'm not sure I understand that yet.

Certainly there is a current issue of power developing between technologists and statists. The idea has been floated around Silicon Valley to create a separate island state that allows their tech fantasies to run amok.

It does seem there is a question of whether governments become Technocracies next or not. They may not have the brain power to run it all and certain functions of digital infrastructure remains privatized, but in still centralized states like China we'll get a better clue about the technological capacties of the state. America is too fractured politically to judge and where this country does exert its ability to mine technology it seems to be for the purposes of its spy infrastructure, not addressing due process, economic and citizen infrastructure needs.

If Chinas C-party falls to populist pressure, then many things will change globally. Hard to predict.

Anyway, I'm not versed enough in Bitcoin to respond to your last points. I started off from an even more macro level in identifying what is our species most pressing concern. But certainly what economic system we pursue will impact the greater question of survival. Outside of virtual reality which is what currency is basically, the ability of technology to solve pressing issues can be profound. Mankind put themselves up against the wall with technology and they're going to have to save the planet now using it.
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Post#59 » by earthmansurfer » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:06 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:Clyde_Style - Without going too deep (and I can as I know the technology very well) - I'll just say it is not THE answer but it is AN answer. It is a step in the right direction. And when banks are apparently in danger of failing all around the world, these currencies may just be the straw that breaks the camels back, not alone their undoing. That will be our job and it will need to come from our hearts as well as our minds.

And we can't go through the banks as they just print money in which to defend themselves and attack the planet. We need to go around them, somehow.

I understand Torrent is not as valuable as money (yet) but the governments have been unable to shut it down - another protocol. I get the feeling one land may make Cryptos illegal but most will not and there is the proxy of interest. Notice how China accepts Bitcoin as a commodity and they also recently stated they will not accrue any more US Dollar Debt (forget the amount).

Will be interesting to watch the worlds largest social experiment of the people unfold. And the bigger point here is not the money (e.g. btc) it is the blokchain they reside on (BTC) - Very bad they call both the same thing, brings up confustion. That is the biggest network in the world and what can be built on it, and is being built on it, is down right EXTREMELY disruptive and not something to be made illegal. This is a Trojan horse.

The ability for us to see where these cryptos are going is really beyond our event horizon imo.


You know more about it than I do, but it seems likely it will be co-opted in any way possible. Hedge funds have been formed around Bitcoin speculation, Wall St. analysts are issuing target prices and every angle on how to profit from it is being dissected right now. The profiteers are staking their ground. We'll see what governments do next. If there is a compromise made to allow parallel currency streams flow through state regulated apparatuses, will be as disruptive? I'm not sure I understand that yet.

Certainly there is a current issue of power developing between technologists and statists. The idea has been floated around Silicon Valley to create a separate island state that allows their tech fantasies to run amok.

It does seem there is a question of whether governments become Technocracies next or not. They may not have the brain power to run it all and certain functions of digital infrastructure remains privatized, but in still centralized states like China we'll get a better clue about the technological capacties of the state. America is too fractured politically to judge and where this country does exert its ability to mine technology it seems to be for the purposes of its spy infrastructure, not addressing due process, economic and citizen infrastructure needs.

If Chinas C-party falls to populist pressure, then many things will change globally. Hard to predict.

Anyway, I'm not versed enough in Bitcoin to respond to your last points. I started off from an even more macro level in identifying what is our species most pressing concern. But certainly what economic system we pursue will impact the greater question of survival. Outside of virtual reality which is what currency is basically, the ability of technology to solve pressing issues can be profound. Mankind put themselves up against the wall with technology and they're going to have to save the planet now using it.


Came across this old post... Think Bitcoin was around $700 at the time of the post, but it came crashing down for a long bear market there after.
4 years and now at $4,000, not bad eh? Watch Bitcoin go to over $10,000 in less than a year from now...
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Post#60 » by Greenie » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:48 pm

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