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“I say to America the Islamic Caliphate has been established and we will not stop”.
“Don’t be cowards and attack us with drones. Instead send your soldiers, the ones we humiliated in Iraq. We will humiliate them everywhere, God willing, and we will raise the flag of Allah in the White House.”
duetta wrote:Let me clue you in to something. Human beings have been claiming that they have received revelations from God ever since The Prophet claims to have received God's alleged 'final revelation' - and, objectively speaking, their relevations (like 'The Course in Miracles', for instance) generally make a lot more sense in the modern world (and are responsible for a lot less physical harm being done) than do the greatest hits of the late 6th-early 7th century, with it's emphasis on arcane dietary laws, jihad, plural marriage, etc.
So the first flaw is that the Prophet's completely unsupportable claim that the Qu'ran represents God's final revelation. Assuming that some spook was indeed wispering stuff into The Prophet's ear, how could any man possibly know that this same spook, or one of his buddies, wouldn't also whisper in the ears of other people, at other times in human history, depending on circumstances. Other people continue to claim that they are, in fact, receiving messages from God - some of which appear relatively interesting.
Moreover, imagine the collossal hubris of a man claiming that he has received 'God's final revelation', the God of a universe that itself is still physically expanding (and doubtless expanding in consciousness as well)?
The reality is that all 'religious' people live in a bubble of their own creation - and thus insulate themselves from the possibility of authentically experiencing whatever is truly 'out there'. If God authentically exists, in any form, He / She / It would be so far above us in consciousness that It would have little choice but to speak to us as would an adult to a toddler. If you wish to remain a toddler in spirit, continue paying close attention to your relevation. I mean, it's clearly had such a fabulous impact on the societies it's touched over the past couple of hundred years. We can just see the extraordinary progress...
SMAC-K wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9C3D174gdA[/youtube]
SMAC-K wrote:Wait, your trying to say that ISIS is real Islam?
Those nutjobs who kill innocent Christians are real Islam?
Is that what your saying?
ozwizard8 wrote:
i live with guys like you...
when a scientefic invention is found ; they find it in quran. hey its already written in quran.
its just pathetic..
look at islamic countries.
rape, terrorism, despotism, monarch-like goverments, ignorance ...
was islam good like 600 years ago? maybe. in these ages islamic people wasnt hate science. it wasnt despotic like now.
now it is just... well there are good people believes in islam; but calling islam is best, flawless is so fault.
look at where most muslims live. there is conjuction, there is rape-murder-terrorism...
sorry quran has so many flaws. doesnt have any science in it.
but hey quran says go find science. try for it. its good. but todays believers just trying to get it from the book are just ignorant.
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let me tell you one proof that islam doesnt have any science in it...
RAMADAN...
islam has false calendar thanks to the quran they use moon calendar... pathetic...
every year ramadan month is changing..
for Arabia yes FAST TIME in Ramadan is like 11-13 hours in every year. doesnt change too much.
but in Turkey? this year FAST TIME was 19 hours. no eat no drink for 19 hours...
go norther... denmark? iceland?
yes their FASTING TIME IS like 22 hours? go norther you can find FASTING FOR 24 hour..
wasnt the God know this? yea he should know his earth system.
but its obvious that Muhammed wasnt know that and nor Quran have that knowledge..
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PS: i dont believe in religion. i do respect people who believes in any religion unless they're harmful or ridiculous missioners. i think all religions have some positive sides; its ancient therapy for people-society. (iftar tables, thanskgiving, bayrams they all good for society)
ozwizard8 wrote:SMAC-K wrote:Wait, your trying to say that ISIS is real Islam?
Those nutjobs who kill innocent Christians are real Islam?
Is that what your saying?
yes quran says exactly that you can kill people who dont believe, or who dont co-operate with you to spread islam.
they can also kill people who believes in islam in other way than ISIS do.
quran also indicates there is no hesitation to marry with 12 year old girls like Muhammed did. (no pedophilies for quran.. )
#hardfacts!
#itsallwritten!
#thereisnothingflawless!
SMAC-K wrote:ozwizard8 wrote:SMAC-K wrote:Wait, your trying to say that ISIS is real Islam?
Those nutjobs who kill innocent Christians are real Islam?
Is that what your saying?
yes quran says exactly that you can kill people who dont believe, or who dont co-operate with you to spread islam.
they can also kill people who believes in islam in other way than ISIS do.
quran also indicates there is no hesitation to marry with 12 year old girls like Muhammed did. (no pedophilies for quran.. )
#hardfacts!
#itsallwritten!
#thereisnothingflawless!
No it doesnt. It states that you can kill if they become a threat to you. Nowhere does it say that you go out and search for people who dont agree with you and kill them. Only if they are a threat are you allowed to kill.
edit:
Do you know why you can marry young girls? Because that is when they are most fertile. Women lose their ability to have kids with age. Do you not see how many women in todays society cannot have kids? Because they wait too long and lose their eggs. Girls are best suited for having kids when they are teenagers, this is a proven FACT!
Why could I not say that 18 years old is too young? Who came up with the age 18 for a woman to become adult? WHO?
SMAC-K wrote:ozwizard8 wrote:SMAC-K wrote:Wait, your trying to say that ISIS is real Islam?
Those nutjobs who kill innocent Christians are real Islam?
Is that what your saying?
yes quran says exactly that you can kill people who dont believe, or who dont co-operate with you to spread islam.
they can also kill people who believes in islam in other way than ISIS do.
quran also indicates there is no hesitation to marry with 12 year old girls like Muhammed did. (no pedophilies for quran.. )
#hardfacts!
#itsallwritten!
#thereisnothingflawless!
No it doesnt. It states that you can kill if they become a threat to you. Nowhere does it say that you go out and search for people who dont agree with you and kill them. Only if they are a threat are you allowed to kill.
edit:
Do you know why you can marry young girls? Because that is when they are most fertile. Women lose their ability to have kids with age. Do you not see how many women in todays society cannot have kids? Because they wait too long and lose their eggs. Girls are best suited for having kids when they are teenagers, this is a proven FACT!
Why could I not say that 18 years old is too young? Who came up with the age 18 for a woman to become adult? WHO?
SMAC-K wrote:ozwizard8 wrote:SMAC-K wrote:Wait, your trying to say that ISIS is real Islam?
Those nutjobs who kill innocent Christians are real Islam?
Is that what your saying?
yes quran says exactly that you can kill people who dont believe, or who dont co-operate with you to spread islam.
they can also kill people who believes in islam in other way than ISIS do.
quran also indicates there is no hesitation to marry with 12 year old girls like Muhammed did. (no pedophilies for quran.. )
#hardfacts!
#itsallwritten!
#thereisnothingflawless!
No it doesnt. It states that you can kill if they become a threat to you. Nowhere does it say that you go out and search for people who dont agree with you and kill them. Only if they are a threat are you allowed to kill.
edit:
Do you know why you can marry young girls? Because that is when they are most fertile. Women lose their ability to have kids with age. Do you not see how many women in todays society cannot have kids? Because they wait too long and lose their eggs. Girls are best suited for having kids when they are teenagers, this is a proven FACT!
Why could I not say that 18 years old is too young? Who came up with the age 18 for a woman to become adult? WHO?
(most of muslims sells their young girls. before that in arabia they were killing their daughter. so islam was increase for these years. not today...) NyKnicks1714 wrote:^ I beat you to it.
NyKnicks1714 wrote:Why don't you take a seat right over there.
SMAC-K wrote:NyKnicks1714 wrote:Why don't you take a seat right over there.
You have a lot to learn kid
H_20 wrote:SMAC-K wrote:ozwizard8 wrote:yes quran says exactly that you can kill people who dont believe, or who dont co-operate with you to spread islam.
they can also kill people who believes in islam in other way than ISIS do.
quran also indicates there is no hesitation to marry with 12 year old girls like Muhammed did. (no pedophilies for quran.. )
#hardfacts!
#itsallwritten!
#thereisnothingflawless!
No it doesnt. It states that you can kill if they become a threat to you. Nowhere does it say that you go out and search for people who dont agree with you and kill them. Only if they are a threat are you allowed to kill.
edit:
Do you know why you can marry young girls? Because that is when they are most fertile. Women lose their ability to have kids with age. Do you not see how many women in todays society cannot have kids? Because they wait too long and lose their eggs. Girls are best suited for having kids when they are teenagers, this is a proven FACT!
Why could I not say that 18 years old is too young? Who came up with the age 18 for a woman to become adult? WHO?
