OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread

[captvict]

Wow. Seems like our crafty businessman from New York is truly gaining momentum. I don't know if I could totally trust the man...
What's your thoughts???

[BKlutch]

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[Big FatKAT]

Strong base but distinct cieling...reminds me of the Cleveland Cavaliers...Sure he will do well during the season but never win in the finals...

[King of Canada]

He's smarter than his base supporters, thats for sure. If he made it to the White House I think he'd be well controlled, so would just be more of the same.

[duetta]

I trust Drumpf every bit as much as I do Dolan - which is to say not at all.

Dude is truly among the most loathsome of the low - and yet not as low as Cruz.

If he wins, we're headed for a national crisis unlike anything any of us alive has either seen or likely can imagine.

[earthmansurfer]

People are pissed at the establishment and media/opposition are spending 10's of millions against Trump by the week. I'd say something is up.

I don't think Trump is an answer, just a reaction to years of corruption. The system is just trying to right itself.
For sure Trump is a thorn in the side of establishment, so enjoy the show. I really doubt they will let him win though.

[AndriPerdhian93]

love this man hating islam so openly

[AndroidMan]

I think all the candidates are corrupted and there is no perfect candidate. Having said that, I truly enjoy Trump's campaign. Not because I agree with him or his policies, but because of the sheer entertainment it brings. He's bigoted, misogynous, and straight up low blow insults other candidates and their supporters. Never seen anything on this level in a national campaign. (Calling Cruz a pu$$y, telling protester to go run home to mommy, telling Hillary ff about Bill, etc.) He's like a battle rap MC running for President in some strange way.

He's more intelligent than people give him credit for, and not necessarily for his business acumen. While his business history is filled with failures, his intelligence, or his campaign's intelligence, really shines in formulating rhetoric that the common American wants to hear. That's the sheer genius of his campaign. While the rest of the established candidates try to play PC, Trump speaks to the anger of the people and goes no holds barred and it's working. In some ways, I don't think he even believes the things that come out of his mouth. Most of his campaign rhetoric is to shock and appeal to a certain portion of the electorate.

As far as a worst case scenario that he is elected, I'm not worried either. If he truly is terrible and can't lead, the people in Congress will look towards impeachment on any crucial presidential misstep. Considering he doesn't even have support of his party, impeachment shouldn't be that difficult. The more important decision is who he chooses as his running mate.

Either way, I'm just going to enjoy the show.

[thebuzzardman]

Wow. Seems like our crafty businessman from New York is truly gaining momentum. I don't know if I could totally trust the man...
What's your thoughts???

Crony capitalism is crafty now? I mean, more power to him he was able to leverage a large amount of seed money and his dad's contacts into something big of his own, but it's odd that regular folk seem to think he's "one of them, speaks for them".

I mean, he's blunt, I guess that sells.

Eh, I hate to get into political discussions in general and in particular here. Basically, both parties have ignored the needs of middle class and working class Americans to a large degree and Citizens United put government influence up for sale. I mean, the rich (large corporations etc) have always had extra influence (not talking about Trump here), but that Supreme Court decision took it to another level. It's a naked level of corruption made legal. And deep down, that feeling that their voices don't really count, well, maybe not every American understands all the details, but at the least, on a gut level, everyone gets it. And when the established order is disregarding the populace and times are difficult and scary, it gives the men with a populist message (and all the good and bad that can imply) a chance.

Basically, a lot of Americans are pissed off so Trump and Bernie are getting a lot of votes in the primaries.

Honestly, I get Trump's appeal, but anytime he talks about government or constitutional history, he sounds pretty ignorant. And now, I don't mean this from the point of view of that time honored Liberal canard where they paint every Republican challenger as dumb. (Quale, Bush jr etc). Plus he seems to be a massive egotist more interested in checking the box "President" and adding more "legitimacy" to the family name as a legacy, then really caring about the country. Maybe I'm wrong. I lived in NYC my whole life, until the last 10 years, and never recall such populist utterances from Trump. Call me skeptical.

[thebuzzardman]

He's smarter than his base supporters, thats for sure. If he made it to the White House I think he'd be well controlled, so would just be more of the same.

Honestly, I think, regardless of all the noise, the establishment wouldn't mind Trump, because he's a rich guy and a "deal maker" and they'd quickly work with him

[thebuzzardman]

People are pissed at the establishment and media/opposition are spending 10's of millions against Trump by the week. I'd say something is up.

I don't think Trump is an answer, just a reaction to years of corruption. The system is just trying to right itself.
For sure Trump is a thorn in the side of establishment, so enjoy the show. I really doubt they will let him win though.

Bingo

[thebuzzardman]

I trust Drumpf every bit as much as I do Dolan - which is to say not at all.

Dude is truly among the most loathsome of the low - and yet not as low as Cruz.

If he wins, we're headed for a national crisis unlike anything any of us alive has either seen or likely can imagine.

I call Ted Cruz "Tailgunner Ted", as he's his generation McCarthy - a weaselly slimey guy who is basically completely insincere but is pandering to our worst instincts to pull the levers of power.

At least Tailgunner Joe was a WWII vet, so at one time had some real balls, of which TC lacks.

And Hilary...talk about electing an establishment machine...good god.

[thebuzzardman]

I think all the candidates are corrupted and there is no perfect candidate. Having said that, I truly enjoy Trump's campaign. Not because I agree with him or his policies, but because of the sheer entertainment it brings. He's bigoted, misogynous, and straight up low blow insults other candidates and their supporters. Never seen anything on this level in a national campaign. (Calling Cruz a pu$$y, telling protester to go run home to mommy, telling Hillary ff about Bill, etc.) He's like a battle rap MC running for President in some strange way.

He's more intelligent than people give him credit for, and not necessarily for his business acumen. While his business history is filled with failures, his intelligence, or his campaign's intelligence, really shines in formulating rhetoric that the common American wants to hear. That's the sheer genius of his campaign. While the rest of the established candidates try to play PC, Trump speaks to the anger of the people and goes no holds barred and it's working. In some ways, I don't think he even believes the things that come out of his mouth. Most of his campaign rhetoric is to shock and appeal to a certain portion of the electorate.

As far as a worst case scenario that he is elected, I'm not worried either. If he truly is terrible and can't lead, the people in Congress will look towards impeachment on any crucial presidential misstep. Considering he doesn't even have support of his party, impeachment shouldn't be that difficult. The more important decision is who he chooses as his running mate.

Either way, I'm just going to enjoy the show.

Yeah, I don't really care if he gets elected. There was a period in American history (after Andrew Jackson?) where the president was politically weak because the Congress/Senate were so strong. Country could survive 4 years of Trump.

Plus, I'm looking forward to a US president telling Kim Jong Il he has a small dick.

[AndroidMan]

I think all the candidates are corrupted and there is no perfect candidate. Having said that, I truly enjoy Trump's campaign. Not because I agree with him or his policies, but because of the sheer entertainment it brings. He's bigoted, misogynous, and straight up low blow insults other candidates and their supporters. Never seen anything on this level in a national campaign. (Calling Cruz a pu$$y, telling protester to go run home to mommy, telling Hillary ff about Bill, etc.) He's like a battle rap MC running for President in some strange way.

He's more intelligent than people give him credit for, and not necessarily for his business acumen. While his business history is filled with failures, his intelligence, or his campaign's intelligence, really shines in formulating rhetoric that the common American wants to hear. That's the sheer genius of his campaign. While the rest of the established candidates try to play PC, Trump speaks to the anger of the people and goes no holds barred and it's working. In some ways, I don't think he even believes the things that come out of his mouth. Most of his campaign rhetoric is to shock and appeal to a certain portion of the electorate.

As far as a worst case scenario that he is elected, I'm not worried either. If he truly is terrible and can't lead, the people in Congress will look towards impeachment on any crucial presidential misstep. Considering he doesn't even have support of his party, impeachment shouldn't be that difficult. The more important decision is who he chooses as his running mate.

Either way, I'm just going to enjoy the show.

Yeah, I don't really care if he gets elected. There was a period in American history (after Andrew Jackson?) where the president was politically weak because the Congress/Senate were so strong. Country could survive 4 years of Trump.

Plus, I'm looking forward to a US president telling Kim Jong Il he has a small dick.

I'd assume he tones down substantially if he actually wins. Starting wars or going toe to toe with foreign leaders isn't a sound strategy. It will likely create more problems, conflict, and fallout then he's prepared to handle. Right now as a candidate alone, he can speak freely without too much consequence. Basically he's not the President now, and saying anything and everything doesn't hurt him, ATM, as he has nothing to lose. I'm sure he does he have a strong team of advisers and if elected, they will guide him to be more presidential while bing less litigious/contentious

[AndroidMan]

As an added degree of entertainment, however, I can see him being more abrupt and vocal domestically. I'd love to see the Apprentice - The cabinet edition. I'd love for him to fire off cabinet members on live TV, apprentice style. That would just be awesome

[BKlutch]

As we've seen recently, denying the validity of people living here and threatening whole groups of people is terrifying. To think that a new president would even discuss curtailing your right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is frightening. The violence at Trump rallies is a direct result of this talk and his statements about attacking protesters.

I hope the US was finally beyond trying to single out racial, ethnic, or religious groups to deny them rights or make them second class citizens. When Trump speaks bluntly about these issues, he is only speaking for the basest elements in our society.

I'm not surprised we now have such a candidate. Years of too much corporate money and dishonesty in politicians have made people restless for a plain speaker who really talks for us.

There's a big problem in politics. How we resolve this will decide whether we have an even bigger problem in the future.

[NoLayupRule]

truly the worst and least presidential candidate in the history of the union

only Sarah Palin can come close

"American First" indeed

[IllmaticHandler]

**** Trump

He speaks to the ignorance of America. A large portion of his campaign is based off racism.

[Bill Pidto]

**** Trump

He speaks to the ignorance of America. A large portion of his campaign is based off racism.

Google the word 'nationalism'

Different than racism.

Ignorance is accepting and trusting in the leadership we've had for many years now. Before Obama and before Bush. Before both Bush's. Ignorance is firmly believing Hilary Clinton is going to help right the ship. Ignorance is believing that socialism is the answer. There are serious, SERIOUS issues at play here, that most Americans are still completely unaware of. Trump may not be an angel, but he is by far the most believable candidate I've ever seen, and at least on the surface, he represents a possible answer to some of the atrocities committed by "the establishment" (I love how that's just a media buzzword now)

Trump is funding his own campaign, speaking out against corporations, special interests, the lying media and lying politicians... and both sides are scared of him and are trying to sabatoge him. That's a red badge of honor for me.

It's funny.... people have been laughing at "conspiracy theorists" for years, and now much of those theories are playing out in plain sight, and you even have globalists like Hilary Clinton admitting that "the economy is rigged" as part of her campaign. It's a joke.

I thought for sure Alex Jones of all people would find a way to say that Trump is some how an Illuminati puppet designed to disrupt or whatever..... but even Alex Jones has thrown his full support behind Trump. Something big is happening here.

When Trump talks about people who come up to him and tell him they've never voted in their lives, but are finally going to vote now.... I'm one of those people.

[E-Balla]

**** Trump

He speaks to the ignorance of America. A large portion of his campaign is based off racism.

Trump seriously looked at how the GDP was treating their voters and immediately decided the best way to win their party was to crank it to 1000 and it worked. They deserve this monster they've created after being blatantly racist for all these years.

Just read a poll that said 26% of Trump supporters believe slavery should've never been ended. Personally I always assume most people are racist if they were raised in this racist society but that's an absurdly high number.