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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2681 » by mpharris36 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:14 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Manhattan Project wrote:
Didn't see the game, what were they?

I know the other day when he batted Conforto and Gonzo as pinch hitters against a lefty was a bit questionable, but it worked out so no one cared.


3rd and 2nd 2 out....nido up (noah on deck)

He pinch hits for nido with Jay Bruce....clearly the brewers were going to walk him. So they did. They Noah came up and got out.

I think you have two options there....if you are going to let noah stay in let nido hit because they probably pitch to him. If you are going to pinch hit for nido and they walk that pinch hitter you have to be comfortable pinch hitting for Noah.

Ron and Gary were both shocked he basically wasted bruce because they intentially walked him and let noah hit with bases loaded and he got out.

Noah was already at 90+ pitches too so he didn't have long in the game.


I think it was man on 2nd and two outs when Calloway PH Bruce for Nido, but I could be wrong. Anyhow, we still had Gonzo Cabrera and I think another lefty on the bench so it really wasn't a problem from what I could see.



that isn't correct

http://www.espn.com/mlb/playbyplay?gameId=380415121

flores walked and rosario was hit by the pitch. Reyes grounded out but both runners advanced.

It wasn't just me...Gary and Ron were baffled and look...

Read on Twitter


It was a bad move...even good managers make bad moves. But it was a bad move. The most important thing is we keep finding ways to win even when it doesn't look like we are going to. Sign of a good team.
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SF - Jaylen Brown/Bogdan Bogdanovic/Loul Deng
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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2682 » by reub » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:17 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Garbagelo wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Rumor is that Harvey could be the odd man out when Vargas returns from the DL.


can we flip a starter for Realmuto?

maybe get some prospects back


No way. Harvey will be a free agent after this season and is represented by Boras. Miami will want young players who are under control for a long time. Dominic Smith and maybe that young pitcher, Peterson. But we'd have to add more than that.


How about trading them Matz? He's still relatively young, appears to be healthy and is still cost controlled. Vargas would replace him.

Edit: That's probably why we should keep him.
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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2683 » by Lord Commander » Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:58 pm

reub wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Garbagelo wrote:
can we flip a starter for Realmuto?

maybe get some prospects back


No way. Harvey will be a free agent after this season and is represented by Boras. Miami will want young players who are under control for a long time. Dominic Smith and maybe that young pitcher, Peterson. But we'd have to add more than that.


How about trading them Matz? He's still relatively young, appears to be healthy and is still cost controlled. Vargas would replace him.



Would be awesome if Miami would take Harvey. I can dream, can't I?
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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2684 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:27 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
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3rd and 2nd 2 out....nido up (noah on deck)

He pinch hits for nido with Jay Bruce....clearly the brewers were going to walk him. So they did. They Noah came up and got out.

I think you have two options there....if you are going to let noah stay in let nido hit because they probably pitch to him. If you are going to pinch hit for nido and they walk that pinch hitter you have to be comfortable pinch hitting for Noah.

Ron and Gary were both shocked he basically wasted bruce because they intentially walked him and let noah hit with bases loaded and he got out.

Noah was already at 90+ pitches too so he didn't have long in the game.


I think it was man on 2nd and two outs when Calloway PH Bruce for Nido, but I could be wrong. Anyhow, we still had Gonzo Cabrera and I think another lefty on the bench so it really wasn't a problem from what I could see.



that isn't correct

http://www.espn.com/mlb/playbyplay?gameId=380415121

flores walked and rosario was hit by the pitch. Reyes grounded out but both runners advanced.

It wasn't just me...Gary and Ron were baffled and look...

Read on Twitter


It was a bad move...even good managers make bad moves. But it was a bad move. The most important thing is we keep finding ways to win even when it doesn't look like we are going to. Sign of a good team.


That's the inning when Bruce PH and was intentionally walked?
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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2685 » by mpharris36 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:42 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
I think it was man on 2nd and two outs when Calloway PH Bruce for Nido, but I could be wrong. Anyhow, we still had Gonzo Cabrera and I think another lefty on the bench so it really wasn't a problem from what I could see.



that isn't correct

http://www.espn.com/mlb/playbyplay?gameId=380415121

flores walked and rosario was hit by the pitch. Reyes grounded out but both runners advanced.

It wasn't just me...Gary and Ron were baffled and look...

Read on Twitter


It was a bad move...even good managers make bad moves. But it was a bad move. The most important thing is we keep finding ways to win even when it doesn't look like we are going to. Sign of a good team.


That's the inning when Bruce PH and was intentionally walked?



yes bottom of the 5th

Mets - Bottom 5th
WILLIAMS PITCHING FOR MIL
MIL
NYM
Frazier struck out looking.
0
1
Flores walked.
0
1
Rosario hit by pitch, Flores to second.
0
1
Reyes grounded out to second, Flores to third, Rosario to second.
0
1
Bruce hit for Nido.
0
1
Bruce intentionally walked.
0
1
Syndergaard popped out to pitcher.
0
1
0 RUNS, 0 HITS, 0 ERRORS
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C - Anthony Davis/Zach Collins/Georgios Papa
PF - Dragan Bender/JMM
SF - Jaylen Brown/Bogdan Bogdanovic/Loul Deng
SG - Tim Hardaway Jr/E'twaun Moore/Wayne Seldon/Tomas Satoransky
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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2686 » by reub » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:32 pm

Adam Rubin just proved himself to be an idiot with that tweet.
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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2687 » by mpharris36 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:58 pm

reub wrote:Adam Rubin just proved himself to be an idiot with that tweet.


so did gary and ron? Are they idiots too?

it was a stupid move...he will have other stupid moves. He has been a great coach and I have the upmost confidence in Mickey. But there is no defending them move. It was simply a bad move and he will learn from it. Everyone recognizes it and we can move on.
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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2688 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:04 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

that isn't correct

http://www.espn.com/mlb/playbyplay?gameId=380415121

flores walked and rosario was hit by the pitch. Reyes grounded out but both runners advanced.

It wasn't just me...Gary and Ron were baffled and look...

Read on Twitter


It was a bad move...even good managers make bad moves. But it was a bad move. The most important thing is we keep finding ways to win even when it doesn't look like we are going to. Sign of a good team.


That's the inning when Bruce PH and was intentionally walked?



yes bottom of the 5th

Mets - Bottom 5th
WILLIAMS PITCHING FOR MIL
MIL
NYM
Frazier struck out looking.
0
1
Flores walked.
0
1
Rosario hit by pitch, Flores to second.
0
1
Reyes grounded out to second, Flores to third, Rosario to second.
0
1
Bruce hit for Nido.
0
1
Bruce intentionally walked.
0
1
Syndergaard popped out to pitcher.
0
1
0 RUNS, 0 HITS, 0 ERRORS


Ok, I stand corrected. I turned on the radio in the middle of the inning so I must've missed the guy on 3B. Still, we weren't hurt by it.
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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2689 » by mpharris36 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:06 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Ok, I stand corrected. I turned on the radio in the middle of the inning so I must've missed the guy on 3B. Still, we weren't hurt by it.


oh im not saying we were hurt by it and I'm not saying it like I would be getting on mickey even if we were hurt by it. But I also don't see a problem with recognizing a clear managing mistake especially from mickey to learn from it (since he new to it especially in the national league) so when we are in that situation again he handles it differently.
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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2690 » by reub » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:08 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
reub wrote:Adam Rubin just proved himself to be an idiot with that tweet.


so did gary and ron? Are they idiots too?

it was a stupid move...he will have other stupid moves. He has been a great coach and I have the upmost confidence in Mickey. But there is no defending them move. It was simply a bad move and he will learn from it. Everyone recognizes it and we can move on.

This tweet is looking at a single tree while ignoring the whole forest. The guy's a bum in my eyes.
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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2691 » by mpharris36 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:09 pm

reub wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
reub wrote:Adam Rubin just proved himself to be an idiot with that tweet.


so did gary and ron? Are they idiots too?

it was a stupid move...he will have other stupid moves. He has been a great coach and I have the upmost confidence in Mickey. But there is no defending them move. It was simply a bad move and he will learn from it. Everyone recognizes it and we can move on.

This tweet is looking at a single tree while ignoring the whole forest. The guy's a bum in my eyes.



the article was from KEN DAVIDOFF though...
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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2692 » by reub » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:15 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
reub wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
so did gary and ron? Are they idiots too?

it was a stupid move...he will have other stupid moves. He has been a great coach and I have the upmost confidence in Mickey. But there is no defending them move. It was simply a bad move and he will learn from it. Everyone recognizes it and we can move on.

This tweet is looking at a single tree while ignoring the whole forest. The guy's a bum in my eyes.



the article was from KEN DAVIDOFF though...

Then Davidoff is an idiot too.
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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2693 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:16 am

Can you believe this shyt?
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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2694 » by mpharris36 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:17 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Can you believe this shyt?


epic bullpen meltdown helped a little by mickey overmanaging

this one guy in one guy out doesn't work...no guy in the bullpen comes in with any rhythm ....lugo isn't a one batter pitcher
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Post#2695 » by mpharris36 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:25 am

we woke them up...unf*cking believable
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Re: Official NY Mets Thread 

Post#2696 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:27 am

mpharris36 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Can you believe this shyt?


epic bullpen meltdown helped a little by mickey overmanaging

this one guy in one guy out doesn't work...no guy in the bullpen comes in with any rhythm ....lugo isn't a one batter pitcher


Yep. Fcking unbelievable
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Post#2697 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:32 am

CABRERA!!!!! WTF?
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Post#2698 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:33 am

Safe!

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Post#2699 » by mpharris36 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:36 am

cabrera with one of the DUMBEST plays ive ever seen

what a comedy of errors....
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Post#2700 » by Stannis » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:48 am

Yes, an awful loss. How the team bounces back from this tomorrow and the day after will define the rest of the season. A real confidence killer.

Seth Lugo for one hitter was not wise. He's a starter, not a specialist like Blevins. That's is on Mickey. I would have let DeGrom do one more and put Blevins for Bryce Harper.

But I still get nervous when Familia pitches with men on. He gets wild. Even if he is a 45+ save closer, that's not the composure a manager wants in tight games.

Sorry, DeGrom.
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