[Community Thread] Welcome To New York! - Intros Here Too

[IllmaticHandler]

after watching the Iron fist trailer...to me it makes no sense not to have made the powerman and ironfist series. These characters are two closely related to have their own shows showing at the same time. I personally think them as duo which they were for much longer than being solo, would be a more interesting series overall. Netflix is putting a lot of production into two characters who are basically a team. Its like a waste of money. It would only make sense if these characters had no relation to do that. I actually read that if these two characters never became the team they did, both would have died off in the 70's. They were only really popular solo, cause Luke Cage was made at the height of Blaxploitation and Iron Fist was made when Kung Fu became popular in the U.S. After both fads died down so did the sales of both comics. Its only when they became a team, did they reach full popularity and become main stays.

[Fury]

after watching the Iron fist trailer...to me it makes no sense not to have made the powerman and ironfist series. These characters are two closely related to have their own shows showing at the same time. I personally think them as duo which they were for much longer than being solo, would be a more interesting series overall. Netflix is putting a lot of production into two characters who are basically a team. Its like a waste of money. It would only make sense if these characters had no relation to do that. I actually read that if these two characters never became the team they did, both would have died off in the 70's. They were only really popular solo, cause Luke Cage was made at the height of Blaxploitation and Iron Fist was made when Kung Fu became popular in the U.S. After both fads died down so did the sales of both comics. Its only when they became a team, did they reach full popularity and become main stays.

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read that the second season of Luke cage will be heroes for hire so I hope he makes a cameo in iron fist

[Oscirus]

This dude was the worst. When I seen him I thought of a bootleg Robocop. This show has yet to find its balance and its hurting what could be more epic. To me Diamondback is only brought in, to fill the role of "super villain" but at this point in the story he is a cheesy super villain. It would have made much more sense to just weaken cotton mouth if you wanted a small moral victory, but keep him in the shadows as he refuses to give up and bring him back later in the story in more powerful plot. They instead kill of the character and with that a HUGE dynamic.


It wanted to be more marvel, and bring a more "traditional" comic book villain in,but could not find a correct balance of two larger villains in the show. I think you can achieve and still have cottonmouth. Luke Cage is a Hero for hire than means there is multiple threats he is dealing with at one time. Luke Cage has the chance to be much better if they learn from some mistakes they made the first season. I will give them a second chance in season 2, but it has to be better. This can't be considered the best season of the series. That would suck.

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The way I viewed him., there really was no place else for Cottonmouth to go. He was stagnant and easily diminished. People hypothesized him perhaps collaborating with D'nofrio's Kingpin later. He would've been an underling to Fisk. He was one to Diamondback so, was Shades and Mariah. Fact of the matter is., there really was no more use for him. Truth be told, I hated how early he went and how but., I was expecting him to go nonetheless. Think about it., some people tend to forget about Zemo in Civil War but., he was so much more intricate and detailed than CM. "I know. Let's take all my money and put it in one place." WTF!?!?

He would've never had sat at the table with all of the bosses and what was the first thing Diamondback did when he showed up?

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I kinda like where the show took Cottonmouth. I don't think he would have been a satisfying big bad, and the show was giving signs from the beginning with his screw-ups. From the beginning, he looked kinda incompetent, was under Diamondback's thumb, all his plans got foiled so easily by Luke...it feels like the show did that on purpose. The way that episode showed it, there's a reason for all his screw-ups...he wasn't made for the life. He wanted to be a musician, and he couldn't even sell his club when he needed to. When he was thinking about how to kill Cage, it was Mariah that was giving him all those ideas about drowning him, etc. etc. I think the show was going for a DeAngelo Barksdale vibe at the end (hope I spelled it correctly), and man, I thought his life and death were tragic at the end.

I also think Mariah is gonna be a good villain, and seeing how she played the role...it was a good move in my opinion.

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Cottonmouth didn't screw up, his people screwed up and once those problems arose, he took care of all of them. By the time of his death, Cottonmouth was well on his way to adapting to Luke Cage. Keep in mind, Luke Cage was a new phenomena that nobody had ever seen up to that point. As for the stuff with Mariah, how much of her advice was actually used? None of it.

As for selling the club, he wasn't trying to sell the club. People were begging him to sell the club and move on, but he refused.

Finally, this theory that's been going around that Cottonmouth's death somehow freed up Mariah to be a bad ass is also false. Once Cotton mouth died she fell under Diamondback's thumb. She had the club at the end but she was running it with Shades which wasn't much different then her situation at the beginning of this story.

[Tricky_Kid]

The best Radiohead's album is still OK Computer and it`s beyond me how can someone say that any other one is better than epic OK...

Wysłane z mojego LG-P880 przy użyciu Tapatalka

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LOl I just saw it today thx m8 You made my day everyone who thinks OK Computer is overrated ---> GET OUT! hehe

[shyste]

Wondering if anyone has a Chris Douglas Roberts jersey from back in the day? i know it was a short stay. Wanting to buy! please and thank you. even if you think a friend may have one and they don't visit this message board, please let them know I am looking.

[Jeffrey]

[MadGrinch]

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Ali was pretty much drawing a good to decent performance from Colter and the best thing about this show. It's complete arrogance to kill off the best thing about a series halfway through said series. Not to mention, you're right about how the harlem as a character motif died off with him.

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Ali was f*cking amazing. His performance was so good, I didn't recognize him as Remy from House of Cards.

Did anyone else watch The 4400 or was that just me? lol

yeah I saw the 4400 , he was excellent in it,

[MadGrinch]

good movie , not great but good, nate parker did some excellent things but I was left wanting more

[Juggynaut]

I hear 13th is a great documentary.

[ITGM]

good movie , not great but good, nate parker did some excellent things but I was left wanting more

I expect a lot of what you want is going to be in the director's cut.

[Bill Pidto]

I have one. It's cheap and very nice quality.

[PornDoc]

Why in the world would anybody want a CDR jersey? There are impoverished kids in Africa who would probably turn down a free CDR jersey.

[Im Coming Home]

Just make a custom one?

[ITGM]

Wondering if anyone has a Chris Douglas Roberts jersey from back in the day? i know it was a short stay. Wanting to buy! please and thank you. even if you think a friend may have one and they don't visit this message board, please let them know I am looking.

CDR, What's up, Bro! You should've snatched up the leftovers while you were still playing, Man.

[Orange Mamba]

[Stannis]

My brother (both of us lived in Tennessee at the time[2008]) told me this story about some moron who called in a sports radio and said the Grizzlies shouldn't draft Kevin Love because CDR dunked on him.

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[KnicksGadfly]

Spoiler:

I kinda like where the show took Cottonmouth. I don't think he would have been a satisfying big bad, and the show was giving signs from the beginning with his screw-ups. From the beginning, he looked kinda incompetent, was under Diamondback's thumb, all his plans got foiled so easily by Luke...it feels like the show did that on purpose. The way that episode showed it, there's a reason for all his screw-ups...he wasn't made for the life. He wanted to be a musician, and he couldn't even sell his club when he needed to. When he was thinking about how to kill Cage, it was Mariah that was giving him all those ideas about drowning him, etc. etc. I think the show was going for a DeAngelo Barksdale vibe at the end (hope I spelled it correctly), and man, I thought his life and death were tragic at the end.

I also think Mariah is gonna be a good villain, and seeing how she played the role...it was a good move in my opinion.

Spoiler:

Cottonmouth didn't screw up, his people screwed up and once those problems arose, he took care of all of them. By the time of his death, Cottonmouth was well on his way to adapting to Luke Cage. Keep in mind, Luke Cage was a new phenomena that nobody had ever seen up to that point. As for the stuff with Mariah, how much of her advice was actually used? None of it.

As for selling the club, he wasn't trying to sell the club. People were begging him to sell the club and move on, but he refused.

Finally, this theory that's been going around that Cottonmouth's death somehow freed up Mariah to be a bad ass is also false. Once Cotton mouth died she fell under Diamondback's thumb. She had the club at the end but she was running it with Shades which wasn't much different then her situation at the beginning of this story.

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Good discussion!

I think Cottonmouth did screw up a few times. He was the one who implemented the plan to take everyone's goods, and say Luke Cage did it --- that backfired. He shoots Scarfe in a rage, and lets him get away. Mariah has to take him aside and say, burn him, drown him, do whatever. He puts his money into Crispus Attucks, and that gets taken out. As for the club, I meant that the show said a few times that he should have sold his club and repay his debts, but he wouldn't do it. For me, that seemed to show he was a little conflicted. It's not to say he was completely incompetent (Luke Cage is messing up most of it), but I think there are signs that he's not completely there. That's why that last episode showed his past, to show that he's not just a villain through and through, that there's some internal conflict there (like Pete says, he just should have been a musician, and instead Mable pushed him to be a gangster), and that seems to be Marvel's MO with these villains. Even Wilson Fiske had a tragic past that made you sympathize a little with him.

I do think it freed Mariah to be a bad person, maybe not as the big bad (not yet anyway), but in terms of her accepting herself, and leaving behind her "politician past." You can see a gradual change. In the beginning, she says to Cottonmouth, "Just do it, I don't want to know." By the end, she's orchestrating a lot of things...framing Luke Cage for her cousin's murder, getting Luke Cage arrested, pro-actively getting arrested and getting out of jail, trying to take out Diamondback, meeting with a bunch of gang leaders...she's all the way in now. She's the new Mama Mabel, and she knows it by the way she has to avoid looking at the picture.

[Knicks Byke]

whos mans is this

[moocow007]

It reminds me of the time I was dying to get my hands on a Dewayne Scales jersey. Brings back memories.

[el13adnino]

use it as a coaster and to break up bud on it