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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#281 » by DOT » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:57 pm

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I'm going by what the beat guy is saying.

Believe what you want. WE BLEW IT

So one guy says something, and you believe him.
What about Stein, Woj, and Aldridge, who all reported that the Wolves wanted more than we would give?

No, I get it Mr. Trump. Those are all FAKE NEWS as opposed to the news you watch which is 100% real all the time


Another Pjax can do no wrong rant? Talking about fake news :lol:

That guy had the deal lined up for a few days and by every account up to today, we were the ones playing hardball.

Yet another PHailurr

When did I say Phil can do no wrong?
And so what he didn't get Rubio, does it really matter? Rubio doesn't change how many wins we have at the end of the year, and would only be on for one more year afterwards.
You'd probably be just as mad if Phil had made the move, because it would magically stop the tank and get rid of all our capspace while somehow making us worse or something
Also, I listed 3 reputable sources who all said the same thing, you have what, one?
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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#282 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:15 pm

K-DOT wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:So one guy says something, and you believe him.
What about Stein, Woj, and Aldridge, who all reported that the Wolves wanted more than we would give?

No, I get it Mr. Trump. Those are all FAKE NEWS as opposed to the news you watch which is 100% real all the time


Another Pjax can do no wrong rant? Talking about fake news :lol:

That guy had the deal lined up for a few days and by every account up to today, we were the ones playing hardball.

Yet another PHailurr

When did I say Phil can do no wrong?
And so what he didn't get Rubio, does it really matter? Rubio doesn't change how many wins we have at the end of the year, and would only be on for one more year afterwards.
You'd probably be just as mad if Phil had made the move, because it would magically stop the tank and get rid of all our capspace while somehow making us worse or something
Also, I listed 3 reputable sources who all said the same thing, you have what, one?


Listening to Michael K for a min. Literally in one breath he said something to the extent "Phil Jackson is a moron for asking for so much from the Wolves, he should have taken the swap" 5 minutes later "well if this report that Wolves pulled out at the last second is true, then Phil is a moron because he waited so long to agree to the deal!" It doesn't matter what Phil does, he's wrong every time.

Porzingis is just a shorter Shawn Bradley.

On a side note, if Rondo and Deron are cut, I would be totally okay with Phil signing Rondo, while Deron goes to CLE and Rose goes to Dallas. That would make me somewhat happy.

Deron and his "chill mode" on a team with LeBron and his "ILL SHOW YOU" work ethic.
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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#283 » by dakomish23 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:08 pm

K-DOT wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:So one guy says something, and you believe him.
What about Stein, Woj, and Aldridge, who all reported that the Wolves wanted more than we would give?

No, I get it Mr. Trump. Those are all FAKE NEWS as opposed to the news you watch which is 100% real all the time


Another Pjax can do no wrong rant? Talking about fake news :lol:

That guy had the deal lined up for a few days and by every account up to today, we were the ones playing hardball.

Yet another PHailurr

When did I say Phil can do no wrong?
And so what he didn't get Rubio, does it really matter? Rubio doesn't change how many wins we have at the end of the year, and would only be on for one more year afterwards.
You'd probably be just as mad if Phil had made the move, because it would magically stop the tank and get rid of all our capspace while somehow making us worse or something
Also, I listed 3 reputable sources who all said the same thing, you have what, one?


Dude I've been on the Rubio to NY bandwagon for months now. I appreciate what he does well and recognize how seamless a fit it would be with our young guys. So in no way shape or form would I be bashing Piax for it. In fact, id do the opposite and would finally have some hope for this fool.

There are countless reports that we were the ones pushing for more all this until the final few hours. You want them, go to the Harry Potter threads.

Idgaf about the W's this year. I want the development of the young guys. Won't happen with DRose around. That guy blows everyone off. I'm sick of him.
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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#284 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:10 pm

I see on WT that the Lakers are not going to gut their team for Paul George. They're calling it "The Melo Rule." lolol
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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#285 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:12 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
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dakomish23 wrote:
Another Pjax can do no wrong rant? Talking about fake news :lol:

That guy had the deal lined up for a few days and by every account up to today, we were the ones playing hardball.

Yet another PHailurr

When did I say Phil can do no wrong?
And so what he didn't get Rubio, does it really matter? Rubio doesn't change how many wins we have at the end of the year, and would only be on for one more year afterwards.
You'd probably be just as mad if Phil had made the move, because it would magically stop the tank and get rid of all our capspace while somehow making us worse or something
Also, I listed 3 reputable sources who all said the same thing, you have what, one?


Listening to Michael K for a min. Literally in one breath he said something to the extent "Phil Jackson is a moron for asking for so much from the Wolves, he should have taken the swap" 5 minutes later "well if this report that Wolves pulled out at the last second is true, then Phil is a moron because he waited so long to agree to the deal!" It doesn't matter what Phil does, he's wrong every time.

Porzingis is just a shorter Shawn Bradley.

On a side note, if Rondo and Deron are cut, I would be totally okay with Phil signing Rondo, while Deron goes to CLE and Rose goes to Dallas. That would make me somewhat happy.

Deron and his "chill mode" on a team with LeBron and his "ILL SHOW YOU" work ethic.


F*ck Michael Kay. He knows NOTHING about basketball. His parter, whose name I can't spell, is no better. Hahn is the only sane voice on that station when it comes to the Knicks.
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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#286 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 1:25 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
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K-DOT wrote:When did I say Phil can do no wrong?
And so what he didn't get Rubio, does it really matter? Rubio doesn't change how many wins we have at the end of the year, and would only be on for one more year afterwards.
You'd probably be just as mad if Phil had made the move, because it would magically stop the tank and get rid of all our capspace while somehow making us worse or something
Also, I listed 3 reputable sources who all said the same thing, you have what, one?


Listening to Michael K for a min. Literally in one breath he said something to the extent "Phil Jackson is a moron for asking for so much from the Wolves, he should have taken the swap" 5 minutes later "well if this report that Wolves pulled out at the last second is true, then Phil is a moron because he waited so long to agree to the deal!" It doesn't matter what Phil does, he's wrong every time.

Porzingis is just a shorter Shawn Bradley.

On a side note, if Rondo and Deron are cut, I would be totally okay with Phil signing Rondo, while Deron goes to CLE and Rose goes to Dallas. That would make me somewhat happy.

Deron and his "chill mode" on a team with LeBron and his "ILL SHOW YOU" work ethic.


F*ck Michael Kay. He knows NOTHING about basketball. His parter, whose name I can't spell, is no better. Hahn is the only sane voice on that station when it comes to the Knicks.


Canty is killing that show for me. It's amazing how one personality can really screw up the dynamic. Canty has some hatorade running through his veins.
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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#287 » by dakomish23 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:48 am

If you had a choice (not that we do or should be using the pick to do so) who would you guys rather have? Butler or George?

I think George is the better player IMO but Butler is a FA in 2019 I believe versus 2018 for George.

I think PJax might consider it if it's available
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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#288 » by dakomish23 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:23 am

We should get Casspi. Would love his fit with the Euros
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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#289 » by BKlutch » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:31 pm

WTF. WT says that the Warriors are going to sign Calderon. How could that be?
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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#290 » by JM88 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:07 pm

dakomish23 wrote:If you had a choice (not that we do or should be using the pick to do so) who would you guys rather have? Butler or George?

I think George is the better player IMO but Butler is a FA in 2019 I believe versus 2018 for George.

I think PJax might consider it if it's available


I think Butlers personality would be a huge distraction in New York. In fact, unless he changes his mindset and become more mature, i have a hard time seing him being the leader and face of a franchise. I trust George more and also think he is a better player. But injury history should still be a concern, and the contract situation is a very big negative as well. I strongly believe he is going to the Lakers in 2018, with Pacers being the only darkhorse because they can offer more money.
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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#291 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:01 pm

dakomish23 wrote:We should get Casspi. Would love his fit with the Euros

He would fit nicely, but as a SF, he'd be fairly redundant.

Wasn't someone in New Orleans supposed to be high on him...

Could see the Clippers making a run at him... their bench is trash.
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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#292 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:05 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:We should get Casspi. Would love his fit with the Euros

He would fit nicely, but as a SF, he'd be fairly redundant.

Wasn't someone in New Orleans supposed to be high on him...

Could see the Clippers making a run at him... their bench is trash.


Isn't he supposed to be out for up to 2 months?
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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#293 » by Mecca » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:09 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:We should get Casspi. Would love his fit with the Euros

He would fit nicely, but as a SF, he'd be fairly redundant.

Wasn't someone in New Orleans supposed to be high on him...

Could see the Clippers making a run at him... their bench is trash.


Isn't he supposed to be out for up to 2 months?


Another month at least. I'd sign him to a guaranteed 2 year deal, though. He's a good shooter, knows how to space the court, and plays pretty decent defense.
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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#294 » by dakomish23 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:16 pm

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nykballa2k4 wrote:He would fit nicely, but as a SF, he'd be fairly redundant.

Wasn't someone in New Orleans supposed to be high on him...

Could see the Clippers making a run at him... their bench is trash.


Isn't he supposed to be out for up to 2 months?


Another month at least. I'd sign him to a guaranteed 2 year deal, though. He's a good shooter, knows how to space the court, and plays pretty decent defense.


Yeah that's my thinking. But I'm assuming we could only offer the min because we used the room exception on Kuz?
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Post#295 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:46 pm

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Post#296 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:19 pm

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Post#297 » by Mecca » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:38 pm

I'll be a broken record, I don't care. Last off-season was the perfect year to bargain shop for young rotational pieces instead of trying to win now.

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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#298 » by dakomish23 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:13 pm

Yes! Another PG potentially off the market this summer. Don't f this up PJax take one in the draft

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Re: 2017 FA/Trade Wishing Well - 5 Card Stud Edition 

Post#299 » by knickstape4ever » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:30 pm

Watching ESPN and everyone is still **** on the Kings for the Cousins trade. Call me crazy but I dont think Its a terrible trade. I actually kinda like it for the Kings. There is a very good chance the Pelicans don't make the playoffs, so the Kings get a lottery pick, they also get Buddy Hield, who was just a lottery pick last year and its way too soon to call him a bust. Thibs actually said recently he's a "big fan" of Hield and that he'd have a terrific career. The most important part of the deal, IMO, is that the Kings got rid of Cousins in order to keep their pick this year; they were winning too many games to keep their pick with Cousins, and dealing their best player was the best chance at keeping a top 10 pick in a loaded draft.

So essentially the Kings got:
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Galloway (solid bench piece)

doubt they resign Evans

The Kings could potentially have 2 top 10 picks. I'm jealous, especially in this draft
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Post#300 » by Mecca » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:14 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:Watching ESPN and everyone is still **** on the Kings for the Cousins trade. Call me crazy but I dont think Its a terrible trade. I actually kinda like it for the Kings. There is a very good chance the Pelicans don't make the playoffs, so the Kings get a lottery pick, they also get Buddy Hield, who was just a lottery pick last year and its way too soon to call him a bust. Thibs actually said recently he's a "big fan" of Hield and that he'd have a terrific career. The most important part of the deal, IMO, is that the Kings got rid of Cousins in order to keep their pick this year; they were winning too many games to keep their pick with Cousins, and dealing their best player was the best chance at keeping a top 10 pick in a loaded draft.

So essentially the Kings got:
Hield
potentially 2 Lottery picks in 2017 (one of which is top 10, and the other from the Pelicans is currently at #6)
Galloway (solid bench piece)

doubt they resign Evans

The Kings could potentially have 2 top 10 picks. I'm jealous, especially in this draft


Nahh, still an awful trade. Hield doesn't go top 10 in this years draft. Demarcus is a top 15 talent in the NBA entering his prime. Bad asset management.
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