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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1021 » by Sark » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:10 pm

god shammgod wrote:the one thing annoying about that video is how much kp ate off of a point guard setting him up and knowing the knicks still haven't found a half decent point guard. oh well.


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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1022 » by Thugger HBC » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:11 pm

god shammgod wrote:the one thing annoying about that video is how much kp ate off of a point guard setting him up and knowing the knicks still haven't found a half decent point guard. oh well.



Frank got em covered. Not likely next season, but he got it covered.
If winning matters, the role shouldn't.....the results should.

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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1023 » by god shammgod » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:15 pm

i was just talking about this year. the kid needs some easy baskets.
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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1024 » by Wolfgang630 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:32 pm

Dakomish pretending he used "all" to mean everyone and not just Melo is hilarious. All he really meant was Melo and not everyone else.
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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1025 » by Rasho Brezec » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:03 pm

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god shammgod wrote:the one thing annoying about that video is how much kp ate off of a point guard setting him up and knowing the knicks still haven't found a half decent point guard. oh well.


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He said point guard.
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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1026 » by Sark » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:08 pm

Rasho Brezec wrote:
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god shammgod wrote:the one thing annoying about that video is how much kp ate off of a point guard setting him up and knowing the knicks still haven't found a half decent point guard. oh well.


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He said point guard.



That's the position he plays.
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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1027 » by Greenie » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:12 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
BKlutch wrote:
Kampuchea wrote:
Not even 1 assist? We usually bashed Melo for this so fair play to question why KP refused to pass the ball.

Seems like a ball hog so not a great game for him. Let's hope he picks up his performance going forward.

Looks like you didn't watch the game, but only saw the box score. That's too bad, because you missed all KP did for the team. Passes that weren't for assists, passes that were for assists but the shots weren't made, driving and kicking the ball out. He basically change the nature of the game on both ends of the floor. His +/- was a game high 21.

Sometimes you have to see the game because the stats don't tell the whole story.

What was he bad at? He missed a ton of 3's and his foul shooting was poor. And about fouls, he had only 1 PF, but was fouled 8 times.


I 100% agree with your logic. My question is why can't we use this logic for ALL our players?



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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1028 » by Rasho Brezec » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:15 pm

Sark wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:
Sark wrote:
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He said point guard.



That's the position he plays.

That's the position he might defend.
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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1029 » by Greenie » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:20 pm

aq_ua wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
aq_ua wrote:KP's team won.


So if KP's team lost, all of the good he did doesn't exist anymore.

The opposite, if Melo's Knicks teams won, everything he does would be viewed positively and you know it.

That's the problem. Individual performance and team performance are totally different.

Anthony Davis plays great and is a great player and yet his team sucks. Why? He can't win alone. However, a team not winning doesn't take away from him performing well.


You guys use this logic when you feel like it. KP has been here for 2 years. We haven't won a damn thing, however that doesn't take away from him playing decent basketball himself. He is not and will not be responsible for these other grown ass men being paid to show up and perform just like him.
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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1030 » by Yankeeknickfan » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:55 pm

Billy Goat wrote:
boomann21 wrote:Wait you guys think KP will end up being better than Ball? That Is a interesting stance. Will bookmark this so we can have discussions in the near future.



Lonzo is already better than Porzingis.

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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1031 » by battabing10 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:25 pm

Greenie wrote:
aq_ua wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:
So if KP's team lost, all of the good he did doesn't exist anymore.

The opposite, if Melo's Knicks teams won, everything he does would be viewed positively and you know it.

That's the problem. Individual performance and team performance are totally different.

Anthony Davis plays great and is a great player and yet his team sucks. Why? He can't win alone. However, a team not winning doesn't take away from him performing well.


You guys use this logic when you feel like it. KP has been here for 2 years. We haven't won a damn thing, however that doesn't take away from him playing decent basketball himself. He is not and will not be responsible for these other grown ass men being paid to show up and perform just like him.


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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1032 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:02 am

All 15 players are not going to contribute to a win, whether nightly or season long. Individual performances are what makes team performances possible.

If KP is going to be the player we hope for, then his performances MUST impact the team performance. You can wait on Ron Baker and Kuz to pump out all-star performances on minimum salary
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, but ultimately this team progression is gonna rely on KP being able to transcend his individual performances into results that benefit the team as a whole.

That's what the best players do, and that's why they are the best.
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Post#1033 » by Wolfgang630 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:06 am

Yeah the best player has to make the team better and be a leader. That's why people like Derozan are not those type of players. Derozan and Melo ain't first option players.
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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1034 » by Billy Goat » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:30 pm

Yankeeknickfan wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
boomann21 wrote:Wait you guys think KP will end up being better than Ball? That Is a interesting stance. Will bookmark this so we can have discussions in the near future.



Lonzo is already better than Porzingis.

Wat


Lol, is this really a controversial statement? Lonzo had one of the best freshman seasons of all time, while Knicks fans gloat about rim protection or something something to justify Porzingis poor rebounding and efficiency.
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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1035 » by ChilledAlex » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:40 pm

Billy Goat wrote:
Yankeeknickfan wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:

Lonzo is already better than Porzingis.

Wat


Lol, is this really a controversial statement? Lonzo had one of the best freshman seasons of all time, while Knicks fans gloat about rim protection or something something to justify Porzingis poor rebounding and efficiency.


Not even judging by your post history(since its all just trashing KP) Dont you have anything better to do in your life than to troll forums with complete BS? Since you are so new yet act like you're so oldschool here I assume this is not your 2nd or even 3rd account which will eventually be banned because you do nothing but post crap.

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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1036 » by Billy Goat » Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:24 pm

ChilledAlex wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
Yankeeknickfan wrote:Wat


Lol, is this really a controversial statement? Lonzo had one of the best freshman seasons of all time, while Knicks fans gloat about rim protection or something something to justify Porzingis poor rebounding and efficiency.


Not even judging by your post history(since its all just trashing KP) Dont you have anything better to do in your life than to troll forums with complete BS? Since you are so new yet act like you're so oldschool here I assume this is not your 2nd or even 3rd account which will eventually be banned because you do nothing but post crap.

Some people get satisfaction by working out, some by eating... and some by acting like dumb 12 year old


Banned for posting an opinion? Oof
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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1037 » by GONYK » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:24 pm

Billy Goat wrote:
Yankeeknickfan wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:

Lonzo is already better than Porzingis.

Wat


Lol, is this really a controversial statement? Lonzo had one of the best freshman seasons of all time, while Knicks fans gloat about rim protection or something something to justify Porzingis poor rebounding and efficiency.


You're comparing a player's performance in college to another player's performance in the NBA, and you think everyone else is being unreasonable?
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Post#1038 » by Billy Goat » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:48 pm

GONYK wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
Yankeeknickfan wrote:Wat


Lol, is this really a controversial statement? Lonzo had one of the best freshman seasons of all time, while Knicks fans gloat about rim protection or something something to justify Porzingis poor rebounding and efficiency.


You're comparing a player's performance in college to another player's performance in the NBA, and you think everyone else is being unreasonable?


Taking Lonzo over Porzingis is hardly a controversial statement.
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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1039 » by GONYK » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:55 pm

Billy Goat wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Billy Goat wrote:
Lol, is this really a controversial statement? Lonzo had one of the best freshman seasons of all time, while Knicks fans gloat about rim protection or something something to justify Porzingis poor rebounding and efficiency.


You're comparing a player's performance in college to another player's performance in the NBA, and you think everyone else is being unreasonable?


Taking Lonzo over Porzingis is hardly a controversial statement.


Based on the logic you laid out above, it certainly is
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Re: Porzingis Unicorn #3 Thread 

Post#1040 » by ChaosHamster » Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:07 pm

get em Billy

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