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Slump doesn't bother me at all - just stay healthy longterm.

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Yeah, a Sophomore player in a small "slump," let's trade him.

Dumbasses!

/grass-is-greener

--Mags

Who said to trade KP?
I think people are joking about that.

Greenie wrote:Who said to trade KP?
I think people are joking about that.

id do kp for saric in a Heartbeat

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:

Greenie wrote:Who said to trade KP?
I think people are joking about that.

id do kp for saric in a Heartbeat

Dude you need to relax for real. Saric is shooting 37% from the field. KP is averaging 18 at 44-45% on a team with two ball hogs...chill


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Dave4585 wrote:

Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:

Greenie wrote:Who said to trade KP?
I think people are joking about that.

id do kp for saric in a Heartbeat

Dude you need to relax for real. Saric is shooting 37% from the field. KP is averaging 18 at 44-45% on a team with two ball hogs...chill


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Dave4585 wrote:
Dude you need to relax for real. Saric is shooting 37% from the field. KP is averaging 18 at 44-45% on a team with two ball hogs...chill


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Dave4585"][quote="Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:

Greenie wrote:Who said to trade KP?
I think people are joking about that.

id do kp for saric in a Heartbeat

Dude you need to relax for real. Saric is shooting 37% from the field. KP is averaging 18 at 44-45% on a team with two ball hogs...chill


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Dingis Zingis needs to get his **** together. 2nd year or not...A lot of 2nd year/young big men are out playing him.

Knicksfan20 wrote:Dingis Zingis needs to get his **** together. 2nd year or not...A lot of 2nd year/young big men are out playing him.

Jokic in particular looks like the better talent atm..

DaGawd wrote:

Knicksfan20 wrote:Dingis Zingis needs to get his **** together. 2nd year or not...A lot of 2nd year/young big men are out playing him.

Jokic in particular looks like the better talent atm..

Pretty much everyone looks better than KP atm.

But again, Jokic was playing like 25mpg in his first 20 games, and not even averaging 10ppg.. While KP was scoring 20+ shooting 50%+ from the field.

ChaosHamster wrote:

DaGawd wrote:

Knicksfan20 wrote:Dingis Zingis needs to get his **** together. 2nd year or not...A lot of 2nd year/young big men are out playing him.

Jokic in particular looks like the better talent atm..

Pretty much everyone looks better than KP atm.

But again, Jokic was playing like 25mpg in his first 20 games, and not even averaging 10ppg.. While KP was scoring 20+ shooting 50%+ from the field.

who really remembers that far back?

KP looks better than last year.

I must be blind. KP looked better than last year first 15-20 games. Now, due to linger injury issues, whatever, he looks noticeably worse. Not in so much worse, but enough that it's easy to notice it. And it's basically in all facets of the game, but particularly on offense.

Porzingis' skillset is perfect for today's game, like Towns, Turner or Jokic. But his ceiling is higher than other big men, and that's the reason for the Knicks should clean the house and create an environment of a good team, with good ball's movement and chemistry. He doesn't need to play hero ball, or play lottery ball every year looking for a change that not will come (Cousins or A. Davis have the talent, but his organizations are failing to them). He needs a good organization, sometime the Knicks doesn't have right now. Clean the house, hire the right people to the front office and staff (I like Hornacek, I believe he could be a good coach with good elements around him).

The potential is there, but the organization needs to help to develop it. Otherwise his ceiling only will be a nostalgic thought like Sampson's (similar skillset) or Webber's (multiple all-star but could be a legend).

ensergiog wrote:Porzingis' skillset is perfect for today's game, like Towns, Turner or Jokic. But his ceiling is higher than other big men, and that's the reason for the Knicks should clean the house and create an environment of a good team, with good ball's movement and chemistry. He doesn't need to play hero ball, or play lottery ball every year looking for a change that not will come (Cousins or A. Davis have the talent, but his organizations are failing to them). He needs a good organization, sometime the Knicks doesn't have right now. Clean the house, hire the right people to the front office and staff (I like Hornacek, I believe he could be a good coach with good elements around him).

The potential is there, but the organization needs to help to develop it. Otherwise his ceiling only will be a nostalgic thought like Sampson's (similar skillset) or Webber's (multiple all-star but could be a legend).

Why is his ceiling so high? Why is it higher than Towns or Jokic, who have shown the ability to put pieces together of advanced offensive games, while KP struggles to with nearly all facets outside of hitting open 3's and coming off screens to hit open mid range jumpers? Every 10 games or so he flashes a crossover, hits a dream shake or makes nice running hooks around the basket, or even "gasp", a play where he's posting up and for whatever reason isn't bodied away (like 99% of the other times) and he makes a nice fundamental bankshot. It's year 2 and he's shown no greater inclination or ability to make those moves than year 1. I'm not sure I can totally buy the "ceiling is higher than everyone" argument as readily anymore.

Knicksfan20 wrote:Dingis Zingis needs to get his **** together. 2nd year or not...A lot of 2nd year/young big men are out playing him.

At least the Knicks didn't draft Willie Cauley Stein.

KP had a decent 4th as the go to guy.

Knicksfan20 wrote:Dingis Zingis needs to get his **** together. 2nd year or not...A lot of 2nd year/young big men are out playing him.

Towns can't defend a chair and Okafor is injured and trapped in the Embiid show. Myles and Jokic are outplaying KP but screw comparing him to other 2nd year bigs we can compare him to his rookie season. He was noticeably better last year defensively. Horny needs to smack him and tell him to rededicate himself to defense. That unicorn **** must've got to his head or something because last year I saw way more effort.

E-Balla wrote:

Knicksfan20 wrote:Dingis Zingis needs to get his **** together. 2nd year or not...A lot of 2nd year/young big men are out playing him.

Towns can't defend a chair and Okafor is injured and trapped in the Embiid show. Myles and Jokic are outplaying KP but screw comparing him to other 2nd year bigs we can compare him to his rookie season. He was noticeably better last year defensively. Horny needs to smack him and tell him to rededicate himself to defense. That unicorn **** must've got to his head or something because last year I saw way more effort.

I agree. Last year he had some sort of of creed that even if he isnt scoring he will pour his effort on D. What happened to that?